Boros, Beats, Battlestar Galactica

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:36 am

to the inclusion of Relic.

I've been playing Grim Lavamancer over Forked Bolt lately, and liking it.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:41 am

I think a split of Forked Bolt and Lavaman is reasonable. I still like having 6 answers to turn one dorks on the draw.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:43 am

[deck]
2 grim lavamancer
4 wall of omens
3 humble defector
3 thalia, guardian of thraben
4 flickerwisp
3 kitchen finks
4 restoration angel
2 kiki-jiki, mirror breaker

2 relic of progenitus
2 forked bolt
4 lightning bolt
4 path to exile

2 sunhome, fortress of the legion
2 ghost quarter
4 arid mesa
4 flooded strand
3 sacred foundry
4 clifftop retreat
3 plains
1 mountain
[/deck]

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:52 am

I forgot to post dat list when we were talking about it last night.

[deck]BBBSG[/deck]

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:47 am

I'm thinking that Abbot of Keral Keep is a pretty nice source of CA for us. I don't own any yet, but looking forward to testing it out.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:56 am

Seems okay in the more aggressive deck you were playing with. FWIW Reid Duke posted a Red Devotion deck with Avaricious Dragon. I commented on his article noting that I liked his deck but didn't like how the Dragon made the Twin matchup a lot worse, and liked his suggestion of maindeck Spellskite to hedge.

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... color-red/

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:54 pm

http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/89456

I was thinking about this today. Thalia spam might be the only good answer to "why not just play UR Twin?"

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:57 pm

I like the all-creature approach generally, but I think it needs Eidolon of the Great Revel to protect against combo elves and other silliness.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:45 pm

That makes sense.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:15 pm

I forgot to post dat list when we were talking about it last night.

[deck]BBBSG[/deck]

Taking the plunge and building this. Why did you drop Thalia?

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:32 pm

I like Abolisher because it prevents Twin from going off on my turn, and it stops counter spells. It's very nice getting to do Defector / Wisp tricks without fear of removal.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:41 am

I bought the Thalias before I saw the updated list

Now I just need time to play Modern lol.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:59 am

Thalia, Abolisher or something else, there's not a big difference in how the games play out. Most of the action is in the 3-4 spots

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:26 pm

I just built your most recent list -1 KF +1 HD because card availibility.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:50 pm

Lighter curve at least

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:52 am

I might play in a 5k this weekend.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:55 pm

I've been kicking around a build of Baby Boros with newly released card Swift Reckoning, which I find as good as Path to Exile in a deck that wants to play Blood Moon MD.

[deck]Baby Boros[/deck]

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:19 am

I've been playing around with the deck a lot today (mostly vs bloom and jeskai control) but I've found that:

A) Grand Abolisher is not very good
B) Thalia spam seems slightly better but still unexciting
C) I don't like the sideboard
D) Tunnel Ignus is very good vs Bloom. I expect he's very good against scapeshift too. Is four slots too many to dedicate to those match ups?
E) I like 1 of Akroma as "answer or lose". Our control match up is terrible and it's won me games I had no business winning.
F) We are pretty weak to planeswalkers
G) Lavaman seems worse than forked bolt.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:26 am

H) Not a fan of Main Deck relic
I) Torpor Orb wrecks us

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:45 am

Moving forward I think I'll try this:

http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/92010

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:02 pm

I've been playing around with the deck a lot today (mostly vs bloom and jeskai control) but I've found that:

A) Grand Abolisher is not very good
B) Thalia spam seems slightly better but still unexciting
C) I don't like the sideboard
D) Tunnel Ignus is very good vs Bloom. I expect he's very good against scapeshift too. Is four slots too many to dedicate to those match ups?
E) I like 1 of Akroma as "answer or lose". Our control match up is terrible and it's won me games I had no business winning.
F) We are pretty weak to planeswalkers
G) Lavaman seems worse than forked bolt.

Cool, the 2 spot is mostly preference.

Tunnel Ignus is the only way I could ever beat Bloom Titan.

keep or drop him depending on your meta.

Which PWs are you having trouble with?

H) Not a fan of Main Deck relic
I) Torpor Orb wrecks us

Nobody plays Torpor Orb, and I don't care too much if they do. The creatures are generally good enough on their own to be competent on the battlefield (Wall of Omens excepted).

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:49 pm

I've been playing around with the deck a lot today (mostly vs bloom and jeskai control) but I've found that:

A) Grand Abolisher is not very good
B) Thalia spam seems slightly better but still unexciting
C) I don't like the sideboard
D) Tunnel Ignus is very good vs Bloom. I expect he's very good against scapeshift too. Is four slots too many to dedicate to those match ups?
E) I like 1 of Akroma as "answer or lose". Our control match up is terrible and it's won me games I had no business winning.
F) We are pretty weak to planeswalkers
G) Lavaman seems worse than forked bolt.
Cool, the 2 spot is mostly preference.

Tunnel Ignus is the only way I could ever beat Bloom Titan. keep or drop him depending on your meta.

Which PWs are you having trouble with?

H) Not a fan of Main Deck relic
I) Torpor Orb wrecks us
Nobody plays Torpor Orb, and I don't care too much if they do. The creatures are generally good enough on their own to be competent on the battlefield (Wall of Omens excepted).

You're losing to Bloom Titan? How? Am I just insanely lucky against them? I have yet to lose a match.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:50 pm

Heh, I had yet to win a match against them before I put the Ignus in there.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:52 pm

Maybe I was approaching the matchup wrong, but every time I dealt with the Titan, I got Hive Minded out.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:10 pm

I've been playing with Abbot of Keral Keep today and I like him quite a bit. There's always been a strange tension in the deck where I want to maximize the number of creatures to synergize with Kiki, Flickerwisp and Restoration Angel, and resist playing otherwise good non-creature spells. There's just a lot of crap at the 1/2 drop spot, which makes filling the curve up with relevant creatures quite difficult. Removal is important in Modern

Abbot helps me relieve that pressure by providing a body that synergizes well with the flicker theme, while letting me dig through my deck if I'm trying to find instant speed removal or hit a land drop.

Abbot is kind of lame on T2, but I'm OK running him out and throwing away the top card of my library if I can block with him or otherwise get value from him later.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:18 am

Maybe I was approaching the matchup wrong, but every time I dealt with the Titan, I got Hive Minded out.

I mulligan aggressively until I find Thalia or Flickerwisp. If they kill me on turn two, whatever, but it doesn't happen often.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:20 am

I've been playing with Abbot of Keral Keep today and I like him quite a bit. There's always been a strange tension in the deck where I want to maximize the number of creatures to synergize with Kiki, Flickerwisp and Restoration Angel, and resist playing otherwise good non-creature spells. There's just a lot of crap at the 1/2 drop spot, which makes filling the curve up with relevant creatures quite difficult. Removal is important in Modern

Abbot helps me relieve that pressure by providing a body that synergizes well with the flicker theme, while letting me dig through my deck if I'm trying to find instant speed removal or hit a land drop.

Abbot is kind of lame on T2, but I'm OK running him out and throwing away the top card of my library if I can block with him or otherwise get value from him later.

Abbot seems okay in a non combo build. I'm not sure I like him more than Wall of Omens with Resto in the deck though. I think it's better to have cards like Finks instead.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:47 am

I was playing Abbot in place of Humble Defector. I still have the full set of Wall of Omens alongside him

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:18 am

Could be better than Defector in the long run with a different build. Abbot pushes you toward a more spell heavy deck though.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:27 am

I'm not sure where the Abbot break-even point is, but having him in the deck makes me more confident to include noncreature spells that help me interact with the larger degeneracy I see in dailies.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:06 am

I kinda feel like he wants to be in Mardu alongside hand disruption.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:07 am

Abbot + Bob + goodstuff.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:01 am

Heh, the test build I put together had him, Bob, Kolaghan's Command, and the combo for value.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:58 pm

Flickerwisp fucks bloom so hard. Basically any time they pact lol.

Vs control, Ajani V and Jace were giving me headaches.

Control boarded in Topor Orb and it made me very sad.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:18 pm

Maybe I've just been unlucky against Bloom. They seem to beat me by T2 Summer Bloom into Titan, or a Hive Mind pact kill. I've occasionally hosed them with a timely Flickerwisp, but I find myself on the sharp end of nut draws too often.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:37 am

Went back to 3 Kiki.

2-0 vs Living End
2-0 vs Storm

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:07 am

Played Baby Boros in today's daily, went 3-1 losing to my old nemesis RG Tron.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:28 pm

What influenced you decision to go baby?

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:23 pm

I was browsing mtgtop8 and seeing a lot of Affinity, Burn and Twin decks. Baby Boros has a pretty good time against those decks, so I jammed it

I included Exquisite Firecraft, which was excellent, and Stoke the Flames which was bad (thankfully I never drew them, or the mana to cast them)

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:26 pm

I've been playing a ton of Grixis Control lately, so I wanted to switch it up and play something fun at FNM and let loose. Guess what Valdarith is playing...

[deck]
Creatures (27)
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Wall of Omens
3 Humble Defector
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Flickerwisp
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Village Bell-Ringer
4 Restoration Angel
3 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker

Spells (9)
1 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile

Lands (24)
4 Arid Mesa
4 Windswept Heath
2 Flooded Strand
4 Sacred Foundry
2 Clifftop Retreat
2 Ghost Quarter
2 Slayers' Stronghold
3 Plains
1 Mountain

Sideboard (15)
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Vandalblast
2 Wear / Tear
1 Spellskite
2 Celestial Purge
2 Celestial Flare
1 Kitchen Finks
2 Wrath of God
2 Outpost Siege
[/deck]

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