[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[LP, of the Fires]

Hushwyng Gryff seems like the sweetest sideboard card.

[hamfactorial]

A card with no CMC (Living End, for example) triggers Eidolon when cast, since 0<3. Playing a creature morphed uses the stack normally, but paying the morph cost and turning it face-up is an independent non-stack game action.

tl;dr you're taking 2 brah

[Lightning_Dolt]

But it's kind of fail since no cost =/= zero.

It's not like you walk into walmart, can't find a tag on something and it's free lol.

[LP, of the Fires]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of nothingness.

[BlakLanner]

202.3a The converted mana cost of an object with no mana cost is 0.

[hamfactorial]

Cards with no CMC can't be cast the usual way (Living End, Restore Balance) and need some special mechanic to put them on the stack like Suspend or Morph.

A card's CMC isn't always related to what you pay to cast it (Flame Javelin, Reaper King).

[hamfactorial]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of nothingness.

Ve believe in nossing!

[LP, of the Fires]

I should try Ashcloud Phoenix in more decks. Flying over rhino is close to good enough.

[BlakLanner]

If my RWU deck goes more midrange style, I know I will want a pair myself.

[Jack]

Zem's UR Delver feat. Treasure Cruise list looks pretty good. I like how you can essentially go into "fire at will" mode once you know you'll get to draw 3 in 2 turns.

[Kaitscralt]

Why did my sweet Zem burn get ignored in favor of a FoS flailing

[Kaitscralt]

It was golden

[Self Medicated]

Nobody remembers what happened 3-4 pages ago.

On an unrelated note, I just finished a bottle of Brother Thelonious belgian style ale and I'm feeling fine and dandy.

[Alex]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of nothingness.

Ve believe in nossing!

[hamfactorial]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of nothingness.

Ve believe in nossing!

We fucks you up, Lebowski!

[DarthStabber]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of nothingness.

You say that like it's a bad thing. We should all strive to be one with nothing .

[Yarpus]

BRB, on my quest to become uber-trash.
But you know, we have Shrapnel Blast in format. And Darksteel Citadel. And Hammer of Purphoros.

[Alex]

BRB, on my quest to become uber-trash.
But you know, we have Shrapnel Blast in format. And Darksteel Citadel. And Hammer of Purphoros.

And Aggressive Mining.

And Mountain.

And Master of Waves.

And other cards.

[Yarpus]

You're no fun.

[Christen]

I'm gonna run with Butcher and then proceed to get trashed by my teammate's Ensoul deck.

[TBuzzsaw]

I was helping a friend make a budget Mono White Heroic when I came up with this list:

[deck]Creatures
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Favored Hoplite
4 Phalanx Leader
3 Ainok Bond-Kin
3 Fabled Hero
3 Abzan Falconer
2 High Sentinels of Arashin

Spells
4 Gods Willing
4 Defiant Strike
4 Ajani's Presence
3 Mortal's Ardor

22 Plains

Sideboard
2 Ajani Steadfast
2 Akroan Skyguard
3 Return to the Ranks
2 Spear of Heliod
3 Suspension Field
2 Launch the Fleet
1 Deicide
[/deck]


It still needs some adjustments but I think it has potential to be REALLY good and the sideboard's a mess. Any opinions?

[Alex]

I was helping a friend make a budget Mono White Heroic when I came up with this list:

[deck]Creatures
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Favored Hoplite
4 Phalanx Leader
3 Ainok Bond-Kin
3 Fabled Hero
3 Abzan Falconer
2 High Sentinels of Arashin

Spells
4 Gods Willing
4 Defiant Strike
4 Ajani's Presence
3 Mortal's Ardor

22 Plains

Sideboard
2 Ajani Steadfast
2 Akroan Skyguard
3 Return to the Ranks
2 Spear of Heliod
3 Suspension Field
2 Launch the Fleet
1 Deicide
[/deck]


It still needs some adjustments but I think it has potential to be REALLY good and the sideboard's a mess. Any opinions?

Yes, play red or green with it. I came to basically the same conclusions, Heroic as a mechanic seems pretty strong now.

Red
offers some good combat tricks as well as Anax and Cymede.

Green offers Reap What is Sown and [card]Mortal's Resolve[/card], as well as Boon Satyr and Hero of Ioras if you want to go the enchantment route. Setessan Tactics is also insane in the deck.

[Khaospawn]

Thanks for answering my Morph/Eidolon question, guys.

I should try Ashcloud Phoenix in more decks. Flying over rhino is close to good enough.

You definitely should! It's like, my favorite card right now for that very reason.

[Khaospawn]

[deck]
Creature 20
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Ashcloud Phoenix

Spells 18
4 Titan's Strength
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
2 Arc Lightning
4 Stoke the Flames

Land 22
22 Mountain
[/deck]

[Platypus]

What are the big tournaments to watch for results before PT Honolulu and GP LA? I'm going to GP Stockholm the week after GP LA, and I'd like to have some decent information where the metagame is heading before that.

[LP, of the Fires]

2 SCGs this weekend I think, then PT, then GP LA.

[Col. Khaddafi]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of nothingness.

Ve believe in nossing!

[/quote:
2k44tfoh]
We fucks you up, Lebowski!

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

[RedNihilist]

If we continue down this road, I think we'll just end up debating the philosophy of
nothingness.

Ve believe in nossing!

We fucks you up, Lebowski!

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

Shouldn't we, like, hang out or go to dinner or something before that?

[zemanjaski]

Treasure Cruise will be oppressive in modern.

[LP, of the Fires]

And by oppressive, we mean banned right before or immideatly after the next modern pro tour, or 6 months, whichever comes first.

[zemanjaski]

Yup. UR Delver is the best deck in the format now, by some margin.

[Khaospawn]

Well it's been no bed of roses
Without Treasure Cruise
If I could have Young Pyromancer in every format
Then I'd never lose!

[Lightning_Dolt]

And you'd get to Draw! And Draw! And Draw! And Draw!

[Platypus]

I fully intend to test Treasure Cruise in UR Storm. And by testing I of course mean thinking about it in my head, and shuffle the deck a bit in front of the telly.

[Khaospawn]

[Kaitscralt]

If Treasure Cruise gets banned or warps a format I will send signed cards to everyone.

[DerWille]

[deck]
Creature 20
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Ashcloud Phoenix

Spells 18
4 Titan's Strength
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
2 Arc Lightning
4 Stoke the Flames

Land 22
22 Mountain
[/deck]

I like this Khaos. It seems like it'll run right through anyone who stumbles or any annoying green cards. Have you tried running some number of Stormbreath/Sarkhan in this shell? If you did, how'd it go?

[RedNihilist]

If Treasure Cruise gets banned or warps a format I will send signed cards to everyone.

It's definitely eligible for the pauper nine list.

[Tyrael]

Also, Burn loses to Siege Rhino

I think 2-3 Hushwing Gryff in the sb will be mandatory for burn if it turns out to be a viable strategy in this metagame

[Jack]

Ohshitthisisinpauper