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Posted: **Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:08 pm**

Too many MTGS-related threads in here. Anyway, MTGS admin Galspanic has requested that this is posted and discussed here. I hope he gets around registering here to chime in but IDK if that will happen.

This is just me thinking out loud and not any hint of any action at this point.....the Gutter in the process of being sort of reincarnated on another site and having it here seems strange to me. To me it makes sense to just call it quits, turn off the posting, and leaving a link to MTGCommunity. Then, if and when I can get Hannes to send the SQL Dumps over to Azrael, ( N_S ), or whoever we can just retire it.

I want GR to post this on the Community too (at my request) since it seems that people there would care and it would end up effecting them too.

Any thoughts on how to make this break as clean and amicable as possible. I might be
in the minority here, but I think that MTGC is a huge opportunity for people that aren't finding what they want on MTGS. If the hostility and hatred on both sides doesn't stop though it will poison both sites and I really don't want that.

Posted: **Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:24 pm**

I approve of the locking of and deleting of the MTGS Gutter.

Posted: **Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:47 pm**

Well thats cool of him.

Posted: **Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:05 pm**

Posted: **Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:11 pm**

It would be funny if, instead of deleting it, they accidentally made it viewable by everyone.

Posted: **Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:22 pm**

Too many MTGS-related threads in here. Anyway, MTGS admin Galspanic has requested that this is posted and discussed here. I hope he gets around registering here to chime in but IDK if that will happen.

This is just me thinking out loud and not any hint of any action at this point.....the Gutter in the process of being sort of reincarnated on another site and having it here seems strange to me. To me it makes sense to just call it quits, turn off the posting, and leaving a link to MTGCommunity. Then, if and when I can get Hannes to send the SQL Dumps over to Azrael, ( N_S ), or whoever we can just retire it.

I want GR to post this on the Community too (at my request) since it seems that people there
would care and it would end up effecting them too.

Any thoughts on how to make this break as clean and amicable as possible. I might be in the minority here, but I think that MTGC is a huge opportunity for people that aren't finding what they want on MTGS. If the hostility and hatred on both sides doesn't stop though it will poison both sites and I really don't want that.

He finally made it a honorable break. Thanks for posting this and now gentlemen get on with building here.

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:00 am**

i want the sql dumps. i like history

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:11 am**

I vote this discussion take place in the gutter as the gutter and this site are not the same.

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:17 am**

What's there to discuss? Its their site, they kicked out everyone. Why is our opinion requested?

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:27 am**

Oh well in that case its my opinion that they shouldnt close the gutter just for "good riddance sake", nor turn it into a redirect for here.

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:35 am**

*affecting

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:52 am**

What's there to discuss? Its their site, they kicked out everyone. Why is our opinion requested?

Gals is actually a decent guy who seems to be willing to moobwap when needed. If anyone wants to keep zombie gutter going, it sounds like he's willing to go to the mat for that to happen. So it sounds like he wanted to figure out if that was something we cared about, in order to not further piss anyone off unnecessarily.

PPE: Such as Kpaca.

For that matter, it's been a standing offer from ER for a while now to send over the gutter history.

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:40 pm**

A long while ago, I gave detailed instructions on how to have a two-minute operation of making an sql query to the MTGS database and dumping the whole gutter posts into a file in one of those "appeals" threads.

I left the premises as soon as I heard crickets chirping

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:42 pm**

If only there were a tech in the equation.

Posted: **Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:16 pm**

they aint doing it. plain and simple.

Posted: **Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:59 pm**

A long while ago, I gave detailed instructions on how to have a two-minute operation of making an sql query to the MTGS database and dumping the whole gutter posts into a file in one of those "appeals" threads.

I left the premises as soon as I heard crickets chirping

Unless you also had it in the form of colorfull pictures with step by step set up you made their brains melt

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:59 am**

I"m very much against the Gutter being closed until we hit 100,000. No, I haven't given up on that yet!

*Heads to post as such on Sally*

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:01 am**

zombie gutter*

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:19 am**

Complete amnesty for every banned Gutter Member. An apology for the Pegging Chamber lies. Nai revealing that he is the Leak.

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:53 am**

Users browsing this forum: King Spam and 1 guest

Hi Gal. Why not just register if you're intent on being a member of this community (albeit a lurker)?

I guarantee we won't even have a summit before deciding to give you access to anything.

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:48 am**

gal is mad

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:21 am**

Get the shit and nuke it on sally. The gutter is here now and removing it takes away the rest of our connections

And no offence manders but I'm not going to be proud of the 20000ish posts that were made after bannings because its not the real gutter and getting to 100K will mean nothing

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:49 am**

Complete amnesty for every banned Gutter Member. An apology for the Pegging Chamber lies. Nai revealing that he is the Leak.

/barn, but it'll never happen.

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:21 am**

That is the way to make this Break as clean as possible.

Galspanic

Nai

would you post in here?

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:39 pm**

Banning everyone without warning is about as clean a break as you can get. As far as I am concerned they did their half, now it is our turn. Who gives a fuck what Galspanic, Nai or Sene have to say about anything?

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:12 pm**

Banning everyone without warning is about as clean a break as you can get. As far as I am concerned they did their half, now it is our turn. Who gives a fuck what Galspanic, Nai or Sene have to say about anything?

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:39 pm**

What?

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:44 pm**

Do you really want to read another post from them that says 'It was a travesty the way the Gutter was handled, but *insert passive aggressiveness or backhanded compliment*' ?

Posted: **Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:26 pm**

Do you really want to read another post from them that says 'It was a travesty the way the Gutter was handled, but *insert passive aggressiveness or backhanded compliment*' ?

This.
When you admit wrongdoing, you are culpable for your actions and it becomes your responsibility to make amends for them. In the real world, we have jail, fines, fees, bills, and other time and money expenses that are levied to repair damage.

We're on the internet and personal responsibility ends at whose head hits the floor first. Actions speak louder than words, so if they're intent on whispering, we have chat logs etc that at least blackmark their credit going forward.

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:19 am**

Just registered the user MTGCommunity on MTGS and sent a PM to all 4 admins requesting gutter-staff trolling chamber access.

lets see how it goes

Answer from Galspanic:

Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
4 requests is good
We'll talk about it and let you know as soon as possible.
Requesting access to Gutter-Staff pegging chamber.

Thank You

You have been banned
for violating our forum rules. If you would like to appeal this ban, please create a thread here.
Please make sure to read the forum rules before you start posting.

Dear MTGCommunity,

You have received a warning. Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

Reason: Gimmick of ( N_S ).
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Gimmick of ( N_S ).
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lol

I imagine this is they way iridium let you know about the outcome of your request to participate in a discussion in a place they are requesting for former gutter members opinions

Classy, as usual!

Actually, this should have been posted here

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:02 am**

Of course not posted they banned that one. Wonder fucking why. (eye rolls)

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:07 am**

Tells banned members to return to bury old grudge
(Picture of MTGSalvation admins)
Bans their new gimmicks because of old grudge

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:53 am**

Forums are life

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:57 am**

sorry guys, just had to ban it!

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:48 pm**

I hope they know they are guests here in more than name.

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:00 pm**

they are all guests in our hearts

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:53 pm**

:wub:

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:04 pm**

I hope they know they are guests here in more than name.

More like Shadows of what they were..

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:09 pm**

Well said.

Posted: **Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:59 pm**

Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS

There is obviously differing opinions on this, but when the old-timer Gutterites are saying close it I tend to side with them. Just letting it stew would be fine too since the Gutter itself hasn't caused any trouble, but GR, Teefo, Madding, and Azrael seem to be okay with this. I really do wish I could make it work the way everyone wants, but this really seems to be the best way.

So, a week from now I will lock everything up until I can get those goddamn SQLDumps ported over for ( N_S ) and then we can archive her away once the Gutter is transferred. If any of you do talk to ( N_S ) or are ( N_S ), it's important to me that you know I am trying to get those. 4 emails to Hannes and checking my hotmail account 2-3 times a day for that... It's not something anyone on staff can do, but I have made it known that this is what is needed.

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