[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:37 pm

The +6/+6 thing basically reads: "Now your opponent has even less outs"

windstrider · Postby **windstrider** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:53 pm

Ok so 4/4 lifelink pro white and pro black for 3WB is very good. I get that.

Do we just ignore his other clause in most situations? Because to me it reads as the dictionary definition of "win more."

His second clause is the sizzle, the part that intrigues people to figure out ways to make it work. Will it ever be really useful? Probably not. But they couldn't just give it flying, lifelink, pro-white, and pro-black. That would be a bit overpowered. So, they make you jump through hoops to get the goodies.

It's a really neat design.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:58 pm

Rapid Hybridization takes care of Blood Baron well enough. Now that the standard has bumped up to four power/toughness, I can see it being used more often with all the pro this and that going on.

Also, good afternoon.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:02 pm

I guess we'll see Mizzium Mortars bump up in price too now that so many 4-butt creatures are going to be around.

Helios · Postby **Helios** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:45 pm

That new Dimir guy is super duper awesome.

Link · Postby **Link** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:48 pm

the who

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:57 pm

the who

is a great band.

Link · Postby **Link** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:59 pm

and their best song goes

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:02 pm

That new Dimir guy is super duper awesome.

Sideboard card in that U/B tempo deck, coming in against Sphinx's Revelations?

I also think it's funny in legacy against Brainstorm

Helios · Postby **Helios** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:19 pm

I also think it's funny in legacy against Brainstorm

I feel like it's not that good

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:31 pm

That new Dimir guy is super duper awesome.
Sideboard card in that U/B tempo deck, coming in against Sphinx's Revelations?

I also think it's funny in legacy against Brainstorm

Plagiarize is already a card and people don't play that either.

Link · Postby **Link** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:31 pm

I think I'm missing where this spoiler is

edit:

Oh wow that looks sweet for my gf deck.

Better than Slaughter games for that slot against sphinx's because its also a decent threat at instant speed?

I think so.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:39 pm

RC practices Karate? The Dane Cook of martial Arts?

Sorrry, just watched that archer episode.

Sasky · Postby **Sasky** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:41 pm

I have an outside hope, completely baseless speculation, that we'll actually get decent removal and burn in DGM and/or M14. With these protections showing up, it makes me wonder what they need protection from.

My bet is on m14 for black removal. As for burn, only the spoilers will show. I am guessing one good burn spell, because frankly the ones in this block are pretty crap (the good ones only target players, hence crap).

Sasky · Postby **Sasky** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:43 pm

That new Dimir guy is super duper awesome.
Sideboard card in that U/B tempo deck, coming in against Sphinx's Revelations?

I also think it's funny in legacy against Brainstorm
Plagiarize is already a card and people don't play that either.

But plagiarize has no body. And doesn't exist in the
same standard as sphinx's revelation.

But honestly, I don't foresee anyone tapping 4 mana for this guy in legacy. He is purely a standard card imo.

Colonel Nohman · Postby **Colonel Nohman** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:01 am

Good night everyone!

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:14 am

That new Dimir guy is super duper awesome.
Sideboard card in that U/B tempo deck, coming in against Sphinx's Revelations?

I also think it's funny in legacy against Brainstorm
[card]
Plagiarize[/card] is already a card and people don't play that either.
But plagiarize has no body. And doesn't exist in the same standard as sphinx's revelation.

But honestly, I don't foresee anyone tapping 4 mana for this guy in legacy. He is purely a standard card imo.

That was more @legacy.

Aesnath · Postby **Aesnath** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:26 am

I want to murk people with a 10/10 that is immune to removal

If there's one thing that is making magic, as a game, and standard, as a format, better, it is the incredible fun of unsolvable, unraceable creatures.

I just don't get who thinks such creatures are a good idea. I want to put R&D in a corner so they can think about what they've done.

Link · Postby **Link** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:39 am

I didn't know you could even win games with < 10 life and your opponent at 30+

Dodger · Postby **Dodger** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:55 am

I want to murk people with a 10/10 that is immune to removal
If there's one thing that is making magic, as a game, and standard, as a format, better, it is the incredible fun of unsolvable, unraceable creatures.

I just don't get who thinks such creatures are a good idea. I want to put R&D in a corner so they can think about what they've done.

Having your creatures killed or countered just isn't fun man. We just need to be slapping creatures down and whoever gets the most
out or the biggest fastest wins. Tons of fun right?

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:27 am

and their best song goes

SEE ME, FEEEEEL MEEE, TOUCH ME, HEAL MEE

LISTENING TO YOU, I FEEL THE MUSIC, GAZING AT YOU, I GET THE HEAT, FOLLOWING YOU, I CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN, I GET EXCITEMENT AT YOUR FEET.

Probably not their best, but Live at Leeds is amazing, and the version on it is equally amazing.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:42 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYhZq1CaX8o

Suspension lifted on MTGS?

What to do, what to do...

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:00 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYhZq1CaX8o

Suspension lifted on MTGS?

What to do, what to do...

Zem's about to get real.

Mad real.

windstrider · Postby **windstrider** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:01 am

I'm at work goofing off while students read an essay.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:06 am

I'm drinking a beer and resisting the urge to masturbate.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:10 am

Actually I'm contemplating on what kind of list I need to utilize Judge Judy so I can beat Red.

Cuz, y'know, I only play Red and I need to be able to beat things like her and Junk..soooo...

Ideas anyone? How can I make the sickest anti-Red Lavinia deck so I can run Khaos Deck Wins through the Gauntlet?

U/W? Esper? Bant?

Go!

Aesnath · Postby **Aesnath** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:10 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYhZq1CaX8o

Suspension lifted on MTGS?

What to do, what to do...

Love Garbage's first two albums

As for MTGS, lurk until something looks like fun.

Jack · Postby **Jack** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:11 am

I'm writing an essay and failing to resist the urge to stay off the internet

Speedbump · Postby **Speedbump** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:24 am

Actually I'm contemplating on what kind of list I need to utilize Judge Judy so I can beat Red.

Cuz, y'know, I only play Red and I need to be able to beat things like her and Junk..soooo...

Ideas anyone? How can I make the sickest anti-Red Lavinia deck so I can run Khaos Deck Wins through the Gauntlet?

U/W? Esper? Bant?

Go!

UWr Control. Derp around on the board for a while with Detention Sphere/Azorius Charm/Supreme Verdict/[card]Sphinx's Revelation[/card], proceed to win with Aurelia, the Warleader/Lavinia of the Tenth/[card]Restoration Angel[/card:
1adw4ec4].

EDIT: If anyone has Cockatrice, and wants to test Modern, I have a new brew I want to test out.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:36 am

Actually I'm contemplating on what kind of list I need to utilize Judge Judy so I can beat Red.

Cuz, y'know, I only play Red and I need to be able to beat things like her and Junk..soooo...

Ideas anyone? How can I make the sickest anti-Red Lavinia deck so I can run Khaos Deck Wins through the Gauntlet?

U/W? Esper? Bant?

Go!
UWr Control. Derp around on the board for a while with Detention Sphere/Azorius Charm/Supreme Verdict/[card]Sphinx's Revelation[/card],
proceed to win with Aurelia the Warleader/Lavinia of the Tenth/Restoration Angel.

I could get behind this.

Time to go grab my Sharpie and my shit commons....

Helios · Postby **Helios** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:52 am

I'm at work goofing off while students read an essay.

My lit prof. likes to pretend she's reading the same things we are.

Which is funny, because she writes the handouts.

Speedbump · Postby **Speedbump** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:56 am

@Khaos: Also add 3-4 Council of the Absolute in the sideboard. So busted against control naming [card]Sphinx's Revelation[/card].

I'm fucking around with Modern UWB Hatebears, trying to get all the cards for it. Deck is absurd against Combo.

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:00 am

That new Dimir guy is super duper awesome.
Sideboard card in that U/B tempo deck, coming in against Sphinx's Revelations?

I also think
it's funny in legacy against Brainstorm
Plagiarize is already a card and people don't play that either.
But plagiarize has no body. And doesn't exist in the same standard as sphinx's revelation.

But honestly, I don't foresee anyone tapping 4 mana for this guy in legacy. He is purely a standard card imo.
That was more @legacy.

To be fair, I said "funny", not "good".

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:11 am

Suspension lifted on MTGS?

What to do, what to do...

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 am

Working on Boros Landfall again; love that deck!

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:20 am

Lol, well as a great woman said, "anything could happen"

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:22 am

and their best song goes

Personally I'm partial to "Tommy"...I still have the double-album set.

Notion Thief looks like a fun answer to Sphincter's Retaliation, though the 4-slot is usually a pretty crowded place. He would be a reasonable sideboard card for BU Control...I'm so hoping black gets a scalable sweeper!

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:30 am

Lol, well as a great woman said, "anything could happen"

I couldn't resist...it was the first thing that came to mind when I saw your post.

In reality, they aren't worth the time or energy you would spend flipping them off, and obviously they have no concern about quality of content. IMO your best revenge is continuing to provide quality content...somewhere else.

Link · Postby **Link** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:16 am

Khaos your bravery never ceases to amaze me.

We should call it the Khaos Challenge.

How many days can YOU go in a row playtesting ONLY against anti-RDW before you lose your mind?

Harder than Ham challenge?

Soon to be determined...

Dodger · Postby **Dodger** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:25 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYhZq1CaX8o

Suspension lifted on MTGS?

What to do, what to do...
Love Garbage's first two albums

As for MTGS, lurk until something looks like fun.

I'd still fuck Shirley Manson

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