[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Mcdonalds]

non-tampon-up-the-ass angle.

I'm stealing this for personal use later

[hamfactorial]

When "mansplaining" is used in an article and nobody needs an inline definition, you know that the SJWs have taken over.

[rcwraspy]

So, what's "SJW" and also what's "cis"?

I don't really know the lingo for this kind of conversation, but I still find it interesting.

[DarthStabber]

Sjw = social justice warrior (usually with a negative context)

Cis = Cisgender, not Transgender

[DarthStabber]

I see a lot of this type of shitstorm in atheist and lgbt spaces.

[rcwraspy]

so cisgender is just the antonym to transgender? That seems excessive to me, since you're either transgender or not, right?

[hamfactorial]

Cisgender is a bullshit term that means you identify as the gender that matches your genitals.

[hamfactorial]

I'm a white cisgender male, which is the technical term for "privileged shitlord"

[rcwraspy]

oh good. i've always wanted to be a shitlord.

[rcwraspy]

DO MY BIDDING, SHITS!

[hamfactorial]

[Lightning_Dolt]

We're all shitlords.

[Lightning_Dolt]

You've triggered me sir.

[hamfactorial]

In response, I am triggered!

[Mcdonalds]

Daze

[hamfactorial]

Force of Thrillho

[Thrillho]

There's a good article about this privilege thing on cracked that doesn't talk about cis or mansplaining.

I've not infrequently listened to AJ Sacher's stream and when he gets into social justice rants... It's about as good as when I get on social justice rants to then point where I wish I could politely tell him to step off his soap box while violently shaking him. I won't comment on his blog because I haven't read what he was responding to, but if maverick thinks he's talking past the original material and not addressing it directly I have to assume what he wrote was a spot on analysis and rebuttal to Jom Davis' article.

[Thrillho]

Earth 5661's Jom Davis.

[hamfactorial]

[hamfactorial]

New thread title to celebrate our continuing privilege

[Valdarith]

Just to confirm my status as shitlord I took the check my privelege test. It was as I suspected.

[Khaospawn]

[Khaospawn]

[Self Medicated]

So, the problem is too many dicks?

http://youtu.be/9Wl_uQOABxg

[Thrillho]

You have a habit of saying that about things that are pretty on the nose is what I was saying.

[Thrillho]

Do you guys not understand why Jerry Seinfeld's Gay French King joke is not funny and why people are pissed off about it? This is a serious question, not a bait.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Totes should have been Shitlords of Salvation.

[Thrillho]

The idea is that being gay is being roped in with French king on a scale of "things that are bad and worthy of your mocking and derision" in a comparison of swiping someone on what I assume is a joke about Tindr. Ignoring how dated using French as a butt of a joke is (well, also the whole "gay is a joke"), it's that a near-billionaire who through sheer force of economic holding is unassailable by negative commentary reacts negatively to negative criticism of the joke. A multi-hundred-millionaire is chiding people who do not have the elevated status that comes with owning an actual mountain of money because they didn't find funny his commentary that took pot shots at people who are more vulnerable than he is. This is the man who made Bee Movie and who disappeared from anything relevant after Seinfeld went off the air until his recent endeavor with Car Coffee Comedian Talk Show.

To summarize privilege through this metaphor, you as a cis person, or you as a white person, or you as a male person, or any combination of the three, are Jerry Seinfeld, whose place in society is bulwarked behind a metaphorical mountain of social, economic, and perceptual advantage you just intrinsically have over everyone else who does not possess any of those attributes. And when you complain about "SJWs" or whatever the fuck else, you're making your out-of-touch, dated commentary back at people who you, through merit of Not Having to Deal With That Shit, cannot possibly understand the "struggles" of (I put struggles in quotes because that's a ridiculously loaded word and I will concede is probably a bullshit label).

And in a stunning turn from what you would assume I would say and what I definitely have said in the past, I'm not accusing you or anyone else of actively trying to pull the progressive mean down. But at the same time, as someone with these cool superpowers (money/privilege, respectively), you have the most power to enact change and be a force so that people don't get mistreated. So when you chide SJWs, when you make fun of people who talk about being triggered, when you whatever whatever whatever, just remember you're throwing stones from a guarded tower at people who can never make it up to that tower or really hope to assail your position. Until your tower gets burned the fuck to the ground.

[Thrillho]

Summary without use of any triggering terms (because you guys are triggered by terms like cis and privilege):
You have superpowers and you want to use them to complain that someone without super powers wants to have the same luxury you do.

Syndrome was the hero of The Incredibles.

[Kaitscralt]

isn't the reason sjw's are so annoying because they're also in the tower but pretending they're not so they can get some sweet accolades and/or dirty hippy pussy?

[Kaitscralt]

I think when the discussion becomes so "meta" that the "sjw" stops defending the cause and is instead defending the actual words "sjw," "cis" and "privilege" the whole thing becomes a mockery of itself and people should start pointing fingers and laughing

[Thrillho]

SJWs are annoying because they're just as petulant and childish as the people they're complaining about and the two extremes make such a black and white polarity that it becomes easy to paint a person you're arguing with as one of the other and then suddenly you can't have a conversation.

I would argue that Sacher hits most of the notes of your sjw outline above (as a cis white male hamfistedly chest thumping about privilege at a hat drop), but does so because he thinks that's the best way to make a change in the world because he has a big opinion of himself and his reach. He already has a girlfriend and is successful without having to sjw shield up. But also those people exist and are awful and I'm sure are just as sjw as the rest.

[Thrillho]

I think the term cis is bad and came into the fight with a bomb injected into its brainstem even without being bad in and of itself.

[Kaitscralt]

I still like the rage it causes when you say that girls just don't like Magic that much

[Kaitscralt]

the people trying to fix the magic community have argued themselves into a corner wherein anything done to help the cause would now be a detrimental "handout" to "women in mtg" and therefore hurtful. they're caught in a self-imposed loop. i'm on the side of the good and righteous but as an observant troll it is glorious to behold.

[Col. Khaddafi]

isn't the reason sjw's are so annoying because they're also in the tower but pretending they're not so they can get some sweet accolades and/or dirty hippy pussy?

basically

[Col. Khaddafi]

I still like the rage it causes when you say that girls just don't like Magic that much

This I also agree, like people don't complain that there aren't enough women in boxing or american football, what's the big deal?

[DarthStabber]

Translating sjw points into ass is not the easy conversion you'd think.

[Kaitscralt]

Translating sjw points into ass is not the easy conversion you'd think.

Definitely not but in this case you're talking about the same guys who think telling a girl how to beat them at FNM is going to get them a phone number

They're not called social justice geniuses

[Col. Khaddafi]

I mean, think about the stereotypical SJW. He knows he has almost no chance at scoring, so what can he do to better the odds?

He just knows that pulling his routine is going to give him a slim chance at scoring instead of none.