[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[zemanjaski]

Abrupt Decay is whatever, if they don't go discard into Goyf, Delver has an edge. Basically what LP said, it was like 45-55 for Jund and that probably flips now since draw 3 is draw 3. I can't emphasise how little you care about 1-for-1 trades in a Delver deck already; now you care even less.

[Khaospawn]

I wish I had a girl to feud with. Now I just flash my penis on ChatRoulette for female attention.

And male attention.

[TBuzzsaw]

I'm so glad I traded for my copies of Sorin before they went from $12 to over $30 in just three days. Holy shit.

[DerWille]

[deck]
Creature 20
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Ashcloud Phoenix

Spells 18
4 Titan's Strength
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
2 Arc Lightning
4 Stoke the Flames

Land 22
22 Mountain
[/deck]

I like this Khaos. It seems like it'll run right through anyone who stumbles or any annoying green cards. Have you tried running some number of
Stormbreath/Sarkhan in this shell? If you did, how'd it go?

After the little bit of actual playing I've done, this is where I'm starting to steer to. I just want something reliable and consistent that can punch through some early resistance but can also switch gears if need be

There's actually a couple of flex slots, mainly in the 2 drop section.I could play Eidolon or Bloodseeker, but I really think that anything with some kind of evasion will be the best choice. I assume that most of the early game opposition will be tokens, caryatids, and coursers, so aspirant seems to be the way to go. The Titans Strengths are really going to shine when attacking head on into coursers, plus the Scry will be good for helping me dig for Burn

Haven't tested THIS list with the Dragons yet, but I have played similar shells before with 23 land and 2 dragons. It can be done, I think, just by removing a Phoenix and 2 burn spells for a land and 2 Stormbreaths.

Being able to fly overhead is going to
be really strong as I suspect that many people will be trying to just play big fatties to brick wall aggro strategies

Agree with everything here.

I did some light testing with the deck and Ashcloud Phoenix is way better than I thought. Once you get to 6 mana that bird never dies. I noticed that it had an awesome interaction with Purphoros. When you're opponent kills the bird, it hits the graveyard then comes back morphed and triggers Purphoros. Turns any kill spell on the bird into a 2 for 1 in your favor. I'm not sure how powerful of a combo it is though, probably just cute.

How have your thoughts on side boarding been? I like how flexible this deck is so it can go a lot of ways. Almost like a transformative side board could work. Something like

[deck]Side Board Idea[/deck]

I think Magma Spray is going to be relevant in aggro mirrors because
it's a 1 mana kill spell and it exiles Bloodsoaked Champion. The Mountain, Dragon, and Harness is there for Abzan/Temur decks. Hammer is there for the BUG control list to keep the gas going.

[Kaitscralt]

Quite being illiterate.

[Khaospawn]

[deck]
Creature 20
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Ashcloud Phoenix

Spells 18
4 Titan's Strength
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
2 Arc Lightning
4 Stoke the Flames

Land 22
22 Mountain
[/
deck]

I like this Khaos. It seems like it'll run right through anyone who stumbles or any annoying green cards. Have you tried running some number of Stormbreath/Sarkhan in this shell? If you did, how'd it go?

After the little bit of actual playing I've done, this is where I'm starting to steer to. I just want something reliable and consistent that can punch through some early resistance but can also switch gears if need be

There's actually a couple of flex slots, mainly in the 2 drop section.I could play Eidolon or Bloodseeker, but I really think that anything with some kind of evasion will be the best choice. I assume that most of the early game opposition will be tokens, caryatids, and coursers, so aspirant seems to be the way to go. The Titans Strengths are really going to shine when attacking head on into coursers, plus the Scry will be good for helping me dig for Burn

Haven't tested THIS list with the Dragons yet, but I have played similar shells before
with 23 land and 2 dragons. It can be done, I think, just by removing a Phoenix and 2 burn spells for a land and 2 Stormbreaths.

Being able to fly overhead is going to be really strong as I suspect that many people will be trying to just play big fatties to brick wall aggro strategies

Agree with everything here.

I did some light testing with the deck and Ashcloud Phoenix is way better than I thought. Once you get to 6 mana that bird never dies. I noticed that it had an awesome interaction with Purphoros. When you're opponent kills the bird, it hits the graveyard then comes back morphed and triggers Purphoros. Turns any kill spell on the bird into a 2 for 1 in your favor. I'm not sure how powerful of a combo it is though, probably just cute.

How have your thoughts on side boarding been? I like how flexible this deck is so it can go a lot of ways. Almost like a transformative side board could work. Something like

[deck]Side Board Idea[/deck]
2 Arc Lightning
2 Harness By Force
n2 Hammer of Purphoros
3 Magma Spray
1 Mountain
3 Searing Blood
2 Stormbreath Dragon
[/deck]

I think Magma Spray is going to be relevant in aggro mirrors because it's a 1 mana kill spell and it exiles Bloodsoaked Champion. The Mountain, Dragon, and Harness is there for Abzan/Temur decks. Hammer is there for the BUG control list to keep the gas going.

Haven't even seriously attempted to build a sideboard, but a transformational board was something I definitely had in mind (and something very similar to what you've already put together). The deck itself really reminds me of the early INN/RTR decks that the pre-FoS crew was building. It had a very similar curve and the sideboard plan was to board into a bigger deck, capable of playing the control role well.

Finding a utility land would be very nice to have for the sideboard. Back then, we did have the luxury of having Hellion Crucible as an excellent mana sink that produced a very hard to deal with threat. And recently, of
course, we had Mutavault. We don't have that now and I'm not sure if Radiant Fountain, fetches or even Nykthos are necessary (though it couldn't hurt). I'm wary about devoting too much, um, devotion, to the Nykthos idea because then the deck will want to obviously want to shift into something much bigger. I like the medium size of the deck where it's small enough to get under the bigger and slower decks, but just big enough to go over the very low to the ground aggro decks. For me, it's something like the goldilocks zone, not too big and not too small - just the right size for me to assess my role as beatdown or control and go from there.

The cards I'm considering are definitely Magma Spray and Searing Blood. Spray is great for the reasons you mention, and I'm almost inclined to play a full set.

Another definite inclusion is Chandra, Pyromaster. At least 2. I believe that she'll be able to do it all for whatever role the deck needs to play by either allowing us to sidestep fatties and go
ultimate with the burn package, or be content to snipe x/1's.

Prophetic Flamespeaker is also on my mind since he's able to produce a ton of advantage and pairs nicely with Chandra. He's a fairly big brickwall for smaller aggro strategies (though Boros Reckoner he is not) and you can utilize the "sword and shield" technique with fliers. (The "sword and shield" is when you wall up with tough defenders ((the shield)) while swinging overhead with a sizeable flier ((the sword)) to win the game) It's possible he could be a maindeck inclusion, but I'd prefer to remain on the side of being proactive in Game 1.

One thing that I have my doubts about right now is Hammer of Purphoros. I'm not sure if it will be as effective in this shell since for all intents and purposes, I'd actually like to see 6-7 mana for recycling my bird and possibly going monstrous with Stormbreath. However, I could be wrong, and I'd like to test it out before I make any wild claims.

Eidolon of the Great
Revel also seems like it may be a decent inclusion. Maybe not the full set, but some number. And I do like Harness by Force.

Anyways, with some of these cards, I figure that this would be a good place for me to start:

[deck]Sideboard[/deck]

It could be that I'm just wanting build a bad devotion deck. And I probably am. But I'm still going to test it out tomorrow afternoon. And I'm sure Alex will probably want pics to confirm this.

[Khaospawn]

I should probably make a thread for my bad red deck.

[Khaospawn]

Scrump Deck Wins.

[Second Harkius]

You can't lose if you can't get your mom to drive you.

[Khaospawn]

I'm gonna get Spam's mom to drive me.

[Second Harkius]

treat her right, she's a lady

[Khaospawn]

I'm worried that if I kiss her on the mouth, she'll think it's a serious relationship.

[Kaitscralt]

kiss her on the cuuuuuuunt

[LP, of the Fires]

THEN SPURN HER

[Lightning_Dolt]

SPURN HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DroppinSuga]

He Spurned Me

[Lightning_Dolt]

Just watched the pilot episode of Gotham. Holy shit was that good.

[magicdownunder]

Just watched the pilot episode of Gotham. Holy shit was that good.

My expectations were unrealistically high for Gotham so I felt let down, hopefully it gets better for the future ep.

[Valdarith]

I thought it was pretty good. Not OMG awesome, but good enough to get me interested in the series.

[Lightning_Dolt]

I thought it was really good. I am a huge batman fanboy though.

Can't fuckin' wait for FNM.

FOR THE HORDE!!!

[Khaospawn]

Gotham is a show about Batman without Batman, right?

[Lightning_Dolt]

Yup. Batman is just a kid. Gordon is the main character.

[Dechs Kaison]

How is that at all interesting?

[hamfactorial]

Holy rotten metal Batman!

[Khaospawn]

Rusted metal!

[RedNihilist]

What has yellow skin and writes?
A ballpoint banana.

[Khaospawn]

Travis Woo?

[Self Medicated]

Travis Woo?

Damn

[RedNihilist]

rotfl

[hamfactorial]

[redthirst]

Travis Woo?

Raugh out roud.

[Khaospawn]

If this is wong, then I don't want to be right

[Lightning_Dolt]

How is that at all interesting?

Batman's villians were always the interesting part.

[hamfactorial]

Yeah, and the girl who plays Selina Kyle looks like a cat.

Those too-wide eyes...

[Lightning_Dolt]

I thought she looks like young Michelle Phifer. Good casting.

[Mcdonalds]

How is that at all interesting?

Batman's villians were always the interesting part.

It's sad that popular conscious for batman villains stops at bane and joker really as he has some really cool villains

[LP, of the Fires]

Right? That's part of what makes Batman compelling. The genius/lunatics that he fights.

Ghoul, bane, riddler, etc.

[Platypus]

Saito has started posting brews again on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TomoharuSaito

[TBuzzsaw]

Saito has started posting brews again on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TomoharuSaito

I don't know if I either really like that Abzan Midrange list or really hate it. I somehow have conflicted feelings.

EDIT: After examining it some more I think I really like it.

I absolutely have to try out that oddball Sultai one. A full set of Dictate of Karametra, [card]In Garruk's Wake[/card], and Villainous Wealth is too funny.

[LP, of the Fires]

Playing in 2 GPTs this weekend.

Khamal will be at one of them.

Should be fun, still not sure on how to configure my rabblemaster deck.