Rx Burn

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:12 am

RDW is a bad choice in a large paper tournament because it doesn't put up results online? Rdw is bad because Heal had to change his paper list to something different when he played online?

Wut.

The online metagame generally catches and hold onto strong paper builds really quickly - for instant when Shoota produced that Flamespeaker deck it was "the" online burn deck for the week, but people notice it wasn't preforming well so it disappeared so I'll assume Heal's RDW list went through the same brutal process.

Anyhow assuming that the Online and Paper worlds are completely unrelated, what critical advantages does RDW offer against on open field that R Burn doesn't?

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How were the results for the events
Khaospawn and Dpaine88?

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:28 am

I'm x-2 right now.

Lost to shitty mono black due to massive flood. Lost to a really shitty affinity deck because I can't understand how to cast Spree for more than 1.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:29 am

I'm so fucking mad my hands are shaking...

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:30 am

MTGO let me select all FOUR Frogmites on the board, I tapped my mana, and only one Frogmite died.

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:39 am

MTGO let me select all FOUR Frogmites on the board, I tapped my mana, and only one Frogmite died.

Aye, I also found using Spree stressful on the beta ermmm...... v4 as well due too all the triggers and flashy lights.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:41 am

I've been raging in the Clan thread about it. I'm attempting to calm down and at least finish 2-2 to save face. I do really like the deck though.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:24 am

Just conceded Game 3 to a Krark Clan Ironworks combo player. Fucking Leyline of Sanctity...

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:24 am

This has not been enjoyable.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:25 am

Hellsparkies are going back in. This much I know.

Aodh · Postby **Aodh** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:38 am

Are you on R or R+Revelry?

Kyarie · Postby **Kyarie** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:26 am

Raph Levy is apparently on Burn this weekend for modern. I'll be curious to see how his decklist stacks up to what you all have been testing.

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:56 am

Raph Levy is apparently on Burn this weekend for modern. I'll be curious to see how his decklist stacks up to what you all have been testing.

While I always do hope for burn too do well in these events, I also fear the repercussion of hate

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That said I finished 4-0 in my DE

G1: UB Fae - Yeah...

G2: UR Twins - M1 would of been over "if" he had Twins in hand but you know what they say "If is the paradise of the fool" (don't worry I'll get over that line soon )

G3: Mirror vs The Great Hocking - M1: He kept a greedy 1 land hand (which had Goblin Guide, so I guess it wasn't THAT greedy) and never saw his 2nd land (still manage to bring me under double digits though) - M2: I saw [card]Dragon's Claw[/card] in my opening hand, along with Destructive Revelry...

G4: Junk -

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:29 pm

Awesome, dude.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:48 pm

I played this list and lost in the second Round in an 8-Man to UR Delver (I beat Merfolk 2-0 in Round 1). It was definitely my fault for this loss- I was clicking too fast and missed my chance to play a Burn spell EOT for lethal in both games. I'm such an idiot... This would never happen in real life.....

[deck]
Creatures 14
4 Goblin Guide
4 Eidolon of the great Revel
4 Hellspark Elemental
2 Mogg Fanatic

Spells 26
2 Shrine of Burning Rage
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Flames of the Blood Hand

Land 20
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
3 Molten Rain
3 Searing Blood
3 Smash to Smithereens
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Relic of Progenitus
[/deck]

I'm probably going to cut Shrine for Shard Volley...

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:12 pm

I played this list and lost in the second Round in an 8-Man to UR Delver (I beat Merfolk 2-0 in Round 1). It was definitely my fault for this loss- I was clicking too fast and missed my chance to play a Burn spell EOT for lethal in both games. I'm such an idiot... This would never happen in real life.....

[deck]
Creatures 14
4 Goblin Guide
4 Eidolon of the great Revel
4 Hellspark Elemental
2 Mogg Fanatic

Spells 26
2 Shrine of Burning Rage
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Flames of the Blood Hand

Land 20
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
3 Molten Rain
3 Searing Blood
3 Smash to Smithereens
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Relic of Progenitus
[/deck]

I'm probably going to cut Shrine for Shard
Volley...

That deck is a thing of beauty - I'm running the same creature base and I also vouch for Shard Volley, in regard with UR delver - I'm actually running 1x VF in my SB because some people didn't get the memo that geist is horrible - it also does a number vs UR Delver as well

I also think you get use too MTGO sooner then later (try and avoid blaming the shuffler for everything though, its actually quite fair unlike in RL where people can get away with 20 lands decks running 4 drops), look at closed/biddingmaster he has a Modern DE finish record of 2W, 1D, 8L and he is still going.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:15 pm

I love Mogg Fanatic in the Delver MU. Takes care of Delver and YP$ in a pinch

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:16 pm

Also, whoa: even though I was 1-1 in the SE, I still got 2 packs... Do I just hoard these?

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:19 pm

Also, whoa: even though I was 1-1 in the SE, I still got 2 packs... Do I just hoard these?

Yeah 1-1 = 2 booster, 2-1 = 3 booster and 3-0 is 5 boosters, they're all worth crap right now though so even if you sell them you will be at a loss (only way to profit in 8-Man's right now is 2-1 or greater - the profit at 2-1 is less then 1 ticket btw).

In regards with hording, I've been hording over 250 boosters now - but it doesn't look like it will payoff

hopefully once the 30th hit and you can't win THS, BNG, JOU anymore the price will go up.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:21 pm

I also think you get use too MTGO sooner then later (try and avoid blaming the shuffler for everything though, its actually quite fair unlike in RL where people can get away with 20 lands decks running 4 drops), look at closed/biddingmaster he has a Modern DE finish record of 2W, 1D, 8L and he is still going.

I'm starting to make my peace with the "shuffler." I'm beginning to mulligan more and I'm not going to dip below 20 land anymore. I do like being able to recognize when I make a mistake or when a game loss is entirely my fault.

I was really tired yesterday when I was playing, and I was actually breaking a personal rule of mine - Don't ever play tired. I make mistakes, don't catch them and then I tilt (or I'm just
ready to tilt at the slightest case of variance).

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:42 pm

mdu, how often are you bringing in Smash against Delver decks?

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:32 pm

Another 1-1 in an 8-man. Disappointing.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:36 pm

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Eidolon of the great Revel
4 Hellspark Elemental

Spells 28
2 Forked Bolt
2 Shard Volley
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Flames of the Blood Hand

Land 20
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
3 Molten Rain
3 Searing Blood
3 Smash to Smithereens
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Relic of Progenitus
[/deck]

VS UWR Delver 2-1
VS UW Control 0-2

Just entered into the 1 pm DE.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:24 pm

I just ;ost a match to Jund when I misclicked what would have been lethal damage to be sent over to Liliana. What a bunch of horseshit.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:39 pm

mdu, have you tried Vexing Devil in place of the Hellspark yet?

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Some notes: I'm currently 1-2 in a DE. I'm so sick of losing.... (that will be the only negative comment I'll allow myself right now)

-I'm convinced that Searing Blood just isn't playable without fetches.

- Sideboarding is starting to confuse me since I'm generally boarding out Burn for conditional things like Smash, Dismember, Relic of Progenitus. I think it's time to beef up the sideboard with 3 or 4-ofs and board minimally - like in Legacy Burn. I'm dying too often with a grip of things I can't use.

- Hellspark is either really amaze-balls, or unplayable (x/4's, ScOoze, First Strike, ping ability, etc), but then again, Mogg Fanatic can be also. I want to get a playset of Vexing Devils and try them out.

That's all for now.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:08 pm

SE:
VS UWR Delver 2-1
VS UW Control 0-2

DE:
VS Jund 1-2
VS Pod 2-1
VS Junk 0-2
VS Twin 2-1

Total Record: 3-3

dpaine88 · Postby **dpaine88** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:52 pm

Got flooded and screwed nonstop at Grand Prix.

Currently 6-0 in the modern Super Series. 10 rounds, 300 people.

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:17 pm

Solid score dpain88

@Khaospawn:

1) I don't use smash vs Delver because they only run one artifact
2) I used devil for a very long time, they're excellent for racing but match up poorly vs lifegain decks and heavy removal decks.
3) Agreed about HSE being either awesome or horrible, I do like how he can exile himself though.

Last Time

Modern Daily Report 7299749
G1 Modern Rg Burn vs RW Burn DE 7299749
G2 Modern Rg Burn vs UWr Midrange DE 7299749
G3 Modern Rg Burn vs Jund Rats DE 7299749
G4 Modern Rg Burn vs Affinity DE 7299749

Only one more set of videos with this list before I make modifications (the latest list I posted in DtR)

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:41 pm

YOLO'ing this right now in a SE:

[deck]
Creatures 15
4 Goblin Guide
4 Eidolon of the great Revel
4 Vexing Devil
3 Mogg Fanatic

Spells 25
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blood
4 Skullcrack
3 Flames of the Blood Hand

Land 20
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
3 Molten Rain
3 Combust
3 Smash to Smithereens
4 Satyr Firedancer
2 Dragon's Claw
[/deck]

I just demoralized my Round 1 Affinity opponent.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:42 pm

Also, MDU, your numbers are off on your decklist. Dunno if that matters or not.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:56 pm

Many Mogg Fanatics died to bring this information to you...

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:01 am

Many Mogg Fanatics died to bring this information to you...

Whoops (I added messed up the SB) cheers - I should go fix it on sally now...

My current list is this anyways:

Tomorrow's Test List:

[deck=MDU's Modern Rg Burn]Spells 27
4 Lava Spike
4 Rift Bolt
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Flame Javelin
4 Skullcrack
4 Searing Blaze
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Shard Volley
1 Forked Bolt

Creatures 14
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Goblin Guide
4 Hellspark Elemental
2 Mogg Fanatic

Land 19
10 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Arid Mesa
1 Stomping Ground

Sideboard 15
2 Molten
Rain
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Combust
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Destructive Revelry
1 Volcanic Fallout
1 Shattering Spree
1 Back to Nature[/deck]

Its basically my Rg version of Hock's list but addressing all the primary weakness.

Robots: 1 Forked Bolt and 2 Mogg Fanatic
Twins: 2 Mogg Fanatic and 2 Flame Javelin

Also created my own self-imposed rule regarding Shard Volley, 18 = 1 Shard, 19 = 2 Shard, 20 = 3 Shard and 21 = 4 Shard

Side Note: Modern GP:

20 Burn decks made it into day two (source) no top8's which is great news for burn grinders

Lots of BGx decks in top8 (no surprise), 2 infect

, 2 Robots and 1 Blue Moon

ZERO twins, UWr or Pod

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:03 am

You only have 27 Burn spells too.

magicdownunder · Postby **magicdownunder** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:07 am

You only have 27 Burn spells too.

Gah - I must of used my old 8 creature list from prebanning as a template and forgot to change the numbers.

Cheers - I made the fixes

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:13 am

I did that with my last couple of lists, which is how I was able to spot it in yours, lol

dpaine88 · Postby **dpaine88** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:16 am

7-0...

Beat these decks so far.

Affinity
Twin
Twin
Scapeshift
Junk
UWR Twin/control
Junk

Running MDU latest list with Fanatic, Javin and Fork.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:05 am

I just lost to a Naya Kiki/Angel Scapeshift deck. In Game 3, I flooded and died with 9 Mountains on the table, which I find funny since I had more lands than the 'ramp' player.

Though I will say this - Vexing Devil and Combust pleased me very much in that match.

Also, whats a Qualifying point?

dpaine88 · Postby **dpaine88** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:10 am

Ugh what the flying fuck...

Just lost a game 3 to UWR twin/Geist.

They start with Leyline of Sanctity in play...

That card is utter horse shit.

Gotta win next two now.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:14 am

You got this, Dan!

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:18 am

Welp, I'm done playing for the day. I think I won just over 50% of my matches today, which is pretty terible. I think once the mechanics of actually clicking the right things on MTGO become second nature to me, my win percentage will begin to rise. I did lose some games due to misclicks and general unfamiliarity with the program. However, I am very happy with my newest version of shittyfetchlessburn.dec build so far. I wouldn't have got to this point without all the losing I did today.

shittyfetchlessburn.dec

Dies to Removal

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