http://diestoremoval.com/search.php?t=2 ... roppinsugaIt's kind of ridiculous for a player who's added nothing to stall like that.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
Or it could be a null read, good sir.When G_R thinks Iamopen2 is not scum; that is an auto find of town. Logic sir.
Naturally, but null is still a no vote. Issue is that Freedom is working his ass to defend himself and underhanded Iamopen2. G_R really has not contributed much until his comments were on my radar. He gave good reasons and I backed off. Iamopen2 has pretty much used circular arguments to hand wave me off. It is Scum's job to defend to the end and saying You drive badass things.
If you are afraid to commit; then say so. Don't say we have plenty of time. That is a scum reasoning for doing nothing. Commit, give reasons why we should not vote Iamopen2, or abstain from voting so we can go back and review your statements when he flips scum. Sitting on the side lines right now is a poor stance for town.The deadline is 8 freakin' days away. Why rush the lynch?
You drive badass things.
Tell me about this.I'm mod confirmed townie over here, so s'all good.
Son, I want you to know that no matter what happens between your mother and me, it's all your fault.
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets
Asks for content, has provided none.Ok then. What are YOU going to do in the next EIGHT days to generate content?
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
So I would say that overall, the crowd is roughly split on imopen2 and freedom; with some preferring the lynch of one to the other; but more or less they're everyone's 1 and 2 suspects (speak up if this is not accurate for you, we can still discuss).Plot twist: I find some actions of imopen2 to be scummy, but he has been scummy as town in previous games, which leads me to not be so sure that he is actually scum in this game.
In DTR mafia I was highly suspicious of him and he turned out to be scum. I just don't feel that way right now, and that makes me unsure. I'd rather not lynch him if I'm unsure.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
Resolving it? Simple. People should vote for who they think is scum. So far, I have reasons to withhold a vote on imopen2, and other players might have theirs. I just stated mine. Freedom seems rather resigned to get the rope, so I'm trying to figure out what to make of that.So I would say that overall, the crowd is roughly split on imopen2 and freedom; with some preferring the lynch of one to thePlot twist: I find some actions of imopen2 to be scummy, but he has been scummy as town in previous games, which leads me to not be so sure that he is actually scum in this game.
In DTR mafia I was highly suspicious of him and he turned out to be scum. I just don't feel that way right now, and that makes me unsure. I'd rather not lynch him if I'm unsure.
other; but more or less they're everyone's 1 and 2 suspects (speak up if this is not accurate for you, we can still discuss).
How would you suggest resolving this G_R?
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets
imopen2 made similar "its ok to lynch me" type posts. Thoughts on that?Resolving it? Simple. People should vote for who they think is scum. So far, I have reasons to withhold a vote on imopen2, and other players might have theirs. I just stated mine. Freedom seems rather resigned to get the rope, so I'm trying to figure out what to make of that.So I would say that overall, the crowd is roughly split on imopen2 and freedom; with some preferring the lynch of one to the other; but more or less they're everyone's 1 and 2 suspects (speak up if this is not accurate for you, we can still discuss).Plot twist: I find some actions of imopen2 to be scummy, but he has been scummy as town in previous games, which leads me to not be so sure that he is actually scum in this game.
In DTR mafia I was highly suspicious of him and he turned out to be scum. I just don't feel that way right now, and that makes me unsure. I'd rather not lynch him
if I'm unsure.
How would you suggest resolving this G_R?
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
AhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhWhen G_R thinks Iamopen2 is not scum; that is an auto find of town. Logic sir.
It's too bad we don't have a secret subforum where we can coordinate troll attempts where only we can see so that we don't have to catch on because only one of us is an actual rocket scientist.
I am particularly interested in committing internet genocide
in soviet gutter, New York somewhere in you
Have you ever played with him as town?@ Manders, having played with imopen2, his style of posting so far is consistent with his scum game. I am content with my vote remaining here for now.
@ Manders. You voted Murphy because he is deducing info that will benefit the scum team's NK actions. Do you thik Murphy is scum?
I don't like this. How could you forget? You had JUST mentioned it. Painkillers or not, that's pretty unlikely, and I see no reason for town to lie about that. IGMEOY.LOL
Missed your vote on Murphy, Manders, disregard my question then.
Painkillers limit my already poor reading skills.
Oh, ok, my bad.no I meant I don't want the other scumteam to NK me
truce Ice Mafia?
I support a lynch on either Freedom, Wraith223, or zemanjaski, in that order.Captain Murphy seems to be minimizing my read and coming to the aid of G_R. Hmmmmmm. Manders is on to something.[/
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How is he minimizing your read?
What's the poor notion?What a poor notion to event present.
You have to establish meta on this site for us to be able to read you, too.I haven't played legitimate forum mafia in some time. I usually play on mafiascum where my meta is so established that my mere presence in the game gets reactions for me to read, I don't actually need to effort in those games.
I don't really have enough experience on this site to establish history and meta reads on people
I don't know, but he knows better than to pursue a retarded-ass plan like this, so it warrants attention.Now this Murphy issue.... see I agree his plan is borderline retarded and anti-town.... but I don't know enough of him to
know what kinda move that is. Is he scum being bold as fuck? Is he misguided town?
You shouldn't care as long as we vote scum.I definitely don't like freedom or imopens votes for starts, so I'm leaning no (I realize its multiball so scummy votes can be on other scum but still rather stick to Void at this time)
This doesn't mesh. If you're so sure about Murphy, why aren't you voting him? Why MUST GR respond before you can/will do so?Captain Murphy has lynched himself in my view. Still waiting for G_R to respond.
So you do actually want to go through with your plan?Well, that worked well
I'm not trying to fish the doc, I would have said the same thing if we had only one vig, or only one cop. We know we have only one PR and maximizing the choice is best.
Therefore picking 3 not only eliminates the scum knowing the one choice but it could also in fact scare the scum to the point of not wanting to hit all 3.
What else would it have been? It was pretty obvious.Also, you say manders was the first to have a problem with your post. She also didn't say what the problems were. First is not always the best.
You're scum with Freedom.My general Rule is that I
don't bandwagons as they lynch often without evidence. I have hard/excellent evidence against Iamopen2 and am presenting my findings to group for evaluation.
PLEASE EVALUATE Iamopen2's posts: 113 and 150. Thoughts? Opinions?
Town don't have to try to look town. It is not a part of their mindset because they are Town.I was acting a bit too self-aware and trying too hard to look town, so people think I'm scum.
No fucking way.Hrm. freedom might be town. I don't want to see him lynched today. Everyone get on the imopen bandwagon instead.
Scum buddy post.Can I get a specific reason why. It's hard to read all this while being busy caring for grandfolks.There is a day chat for both scum teams. You'll see this if you you back and read the sample PMs.Shit, I misread. Just a night chat for the mafia.
Yeah, okay, I'll lynch freedom. Give it a day or two to get responses to my questions in and I'll pack 'er up.
nI did, but I wasn't here.I just want to leave this here.
"What exactly do you find wrong with that statement by Freedom? Yes, he is playing devil's advocate for Murphy (and I disagree with him), but that doesn't make Freedom scum." -Me
"It makes him scum cause you are defending him freedom instead of ignoring or snide commenting on it as usual. Associations label you and freedom." -Wraith
So...anyone find this interesting?
What was your point of posting it here?
I look forward to seeing you contribute.Too much fucking mafia to catch up on.
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wraith is town
fate is town
cm is probscum
zem is probscum
imopen is probscum
freedom is probscum
everyone else is probtown by default.
I'll get a couple more concrete reads tomorrow.
I look forward to seeing you contribute.I think imopen is scum as well. I will support either a lynch on imopen or freedom today. I don't think they're scum buddies, but I definitely believe that they are both scum.
Since when and why?Noob though I may be, I am more confidant about imopen2 than freedom.
Cool, what would you like to discuss?unvote
I want more discussion before we lynch, regardless of who it is today.
DO NOT TRUST THE CANADIAN.Void, you should vote for imopen2. You can trust me, I'm the Doctor.
Because more discussion could help scum, duh. Why keep talking if everything's decided?The deadline is 8 freakin' days away. Why rush the lynch?
[quote="Captain Murphy » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:38 pm":
2hmn1hl1]I think everyone has to decide between imopen and freedom who should be the day one lynch and whoever gets more votes is lynched, simple as that. Any other wagon while these two wagons are happening isn't helping the town, its just drawing out the day.
Good, so you can trust me then, right?@Stardust:
Then who the hell am I confusing you with... Oh. LOL. TK-421. Whoops.
God damnit, Void! I'm the fuckin' Doctor! (But don't counterclaim me until Day 2 or 3).I also second the question on how you are mod confirmed.
Who was this directed at and why?My god, some of you are dense
I agree with this logic. Unofficial deadline of Friday Jan 24? Whichever has more votes gets lynched (may require some people moving over to their second choice, but at least we'll be moving on).I think everyone has to decide between imopen and freedom who should be the day one lynch and whoever gets more votes is lynched, simple as that. Any other wagon while these two wagons are happening isn't helping the town, its just drawing out the day.
Take a quick look through Wraith's posts in DTR mafia (where he was town). A lot of what you were calling scummy is just his (rather bizarre) style of play. The buddiness appears to continue over multipleDO NOT TRUST THE CANADIAN.
Son, I want you to know that no matter what happens between your mother and me, it's all your fault.
This is freedom's fourth post, early in the game. I consider the bolded a minor town slip (there are 9 townies in this game, not 7).Mostly by looking at player associations, I'd think. I can definitely see where this is a harder game, both for the town and the mafias. The mafias each have a harder victory condition, since they must get the other team killed as well as seven townies, and pretty much can't afford to lose a man, since it makes winning much harder. It is also harder for town, since the scum will be scum hunting as well and we only have 1 power role.
Snipped from a larger post. Pretty... defensive? That's not the right word, but you know what I mean.Wraith, we seem to be in disagreement, probably because one of us is reading the situation completely incorrectly. Let's try to clear things up.
Why am I scum to you(still no reason given)? Why is freedom the better choice? Why is Zem third?How is he minimizing your read?Captain Murphy seems to be minimizing my read and coming to the aid of G_R. Hmmmmmm. Manders is on to something.
You took to long to respond to this. He found the silly trap card thing from Zem a misread cause I forgot about pre-game BS. This was already fleshed out.
What's the poor notion?What a poor notion to event present.
Where did you this? I remember saying it, but can't find it. Give me the post number please.
This doesn't mesh. If you're so sure about Murphy, why aren't you voting him? Why MUST GR respond before you can/will do so?Captain Murphy has lynched himself in my view. Still waiting for G_R to respond.
I was sure about C.P., but he is very hard to read with the shield of sarcasm. He is aggressive and plays gambits. The comment caught a few in his web, thus I am not sure it was scum post or a well played gambit to catch scum. I just don't know. My gut responded to Iamopen2's contradiction in his rationality followed with a vote. I could not ignore that
as it is serious deviation from normal character. You raise a good point about how I should be after C.P., but I prefer to go after big scum posts as Iamopen2 threw out there. Catching him in the contradiction was stronger to me as we have 2 scum teams. It is hard to catch Iamopen2 in a lie or contradiction in last game I played with him, thus I went for it when I saw it. The big reason why I am putting C.P. on the back burner is that he is very sarcastic and I find he may still be poking Stardust on the doc claim.
You're scum with Freedom.My general Rule is that I don't bandwagons as they lynch often without evidence. I have hard/excellent evidence against Iamopen2 and am presenting my findings to group for evaluation.
PLEASE EVALUATE Iamopen2's posts: 113 and 150. Thoughts? Opinions?
[color=#
FF0000]Why? I find my evidence was sufficient for asking for evaluation and support. Why does this read scum to you If I ask for those instead of demand them as others do? My distaste for poor rational bandwagons is known, but I noted that, presented my findings, and asked for support. Now why do you place me with Freedom? My first game with Freedom showed that he plays devils advocate alot and poor inferences in rationality which appear scum. He rolled town when the game ended. He is another player I am putting on the back burner for now as Iamopen2 is a stronger scum than C.P. or freedom at the moment. Please give me a well thought out post as to why I am scum, because I am solid town.[/color]
Scum buddy post.Can I get a specific reason why. It's hard to read all this while being busy caring for grandfolks.There is a day chat for both scum teams. You'll see this if you you back and read the sample PMs.Shit, I misread. Just a night chat for the mafia.
Yeah, okay, I'll lynch freedom. Give it a day or two to get responses to my questions in and I'll pack 'er up.
again, freedom says stupid shit at the worst times. See DTR mafia. Why am I scum buddies in asking for reasons why he is scum. Stardust tends to wait or leave out the rationality.
I support a lynch on either Freedom, Wraith223, or zemanjaski, in that order.I think everyone has to decide between imopen and freedom who should be the day one lynch and whoever gets more votes is lynched, simple as that. Any other wagon while these two wagons are happening isn't helping the town, its just drawing out the day.
Unvote Vote: Freedom
You drive badass things.
Not letting go! On your case like aWraith, you make inferences that need not be made.
Manders was responding to suga saying that he say no reason to end the day without more discussion. She was simply giving a reason why sometimes it is detrimental to the town to prolong the day.
It has nothing to do with suga's or manders' position on my lynch.
I hope, that when I flip town, you look back at your mistakes in this game and rethink your strategy going forward. If you are town, you are not helping with these types of inferences.
You drive badass things.
I also just figured out to post a gif. So far the game has entered this phase as some are dragging their feet.
You drive badass things.
I prefer Piano wire. You can't fake or survive that.If you were Mossad and I were scum, I would have already died in a mysterious explosion.
You drive badass things.
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