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what do you guys think about this list. 3 experiment one 4 wild nacatl 4 goblin guide 4 kird ape 4 burning tree-emissary 4 lightning bolt 3 lightning helix 4 ghor-clan rampager 4 atarkas command 2 ajani caller of the pride 4 boros charm 1 copperline gorge 1 razorverge thicket 2 stomping ground 1 sa...

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what do you guys think about this list. 3 experiment one 4 wild nacatl 4 goblin guide 4 kird ape 4 burning tree-emissary 4 lightning bolt 3 lightning helix 4 ghor-clan rampager 4 atarkas command 2 ajani caller of the pride 4 boros charm 1 copperline gorge 1 razorverge thicket 2 stomping ground 1 sac...

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there is an abzan aggro list that plays hangerback walkers instead of rakshasas deathdealer which gives the deck a decided advantage over the mirrors withouth hangerbacks and is good in the late game against languish

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what do you think about this decklist with maindeck monastery siege and treasure cruise for ur sligh. i think it has great potential. We get the same aggro game plan but then we have 2 cruise and 3 sieges to work with if we get stalled out or we have to burn every creature that they play. Im not say...

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This is what im currently playing right now and I think I need to switch to a dragon build like lee shi tian did. Im finding the abzan matchup unbeatable and its not because of the lifegain from rhino. Its mainly because I cant deal with their 4 power guys and kill them in a good time frame. If i ha...

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seekers,mentor and chained for the mainboard

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Ive seen many situation where if people had mentor they would have been able to switch roles when burn your guys and attack is no longer an option. It just appears that the games get durdly enough to where the deck needs a breaker. ALso i haver personally tested out mentor vs the decks like abzan an...

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I dont understand why the red mages at the pro tour did not decide to run red white burn instead of mono red? isnt monastery mentor too good not to splash for and they get chained to the rocks

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ive been durdling around with a jeskai list with 22 lands. I dont know if its good or bad but Id like to get some discussion going on how to abuse treasure cruise with this red deck. it may just be that ur is better than jeskai but the upsides to mentor+cruise is tantalizing for me to ignore [deck]c...

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Could we just play a blue red variant with some number of treasure cruise and day's undoing instead of temur? It might give us a way to no longer need atarkas command since we can just play the control burn game.

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monastery mentor dies to burn spells and small removal which is where brimaz is really good at that. Im not sure if this is the shell that uses it best.

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I would not change my list again until the rotation of the format with fate reforged and I would go into my last event with this exact 75. I can't help but think this is a bad idea. lol. why is that? as long as no new deck enters the format this deck is doing well enough for me to keep it in this c...

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I don't understand large parts of that deck. It looks horrendous honestly. The reason it looks very funky is because mardu midrange was very big in my local meta which warped the decklist to this configuration. With the amount of people doing well enough with the deck I was not able to reliably dod...

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[deck] creatures 3 lagonna-band trailblazer 1 favored hoplite 4 battlewise hoplite 4 hero of iroas 2 seeker of the way 3 heliod's prilgrim enchantments 1 ordeal of heliod 1 aqueous form 1 stratus walk 4 ordeal of thassa instants 4 defiant strike 4 gods willing 2 negate 3 stubborn denial 1 dig throug...

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I'm also finding out that it's not a very easy or forgiving deck. It's pretty simple, but I still feel that I get blown out because I don't know the meta very well. Not a great choice for my first Khans deck. The thing is you are a deck that capitalizes on small windows of opportunity and not knowi...

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I take it this deck is good at beating up the whip/midrange strategies while being weak to control?

God no. The deck is sweet vs control. I have a good win % against it. Whip decks are a joke vs us.

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I haven't been playing MTGO much, how is this deck situated for the standard meta online?

Bad i think. Mardu midrange/jeskai tokes are a good portion of the meta which are your worst matchups. I my list scews to beat them just for that reason.

BiddingMaster

Hey guys quick question in my local meta still have a couple of red aggro players and having trouble with that matchup, most likely because Im a bad player lol. Anyway without removal it seems like I fall behind early to reds fast draws and it gets very hard to catch up. Besides the obvious idea of...

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[deck] creatures 3 lagonna band elder 3 favored hoplite 4 akroan crusader 4 monastery swiftspear enchantments 4 jeskai ascendancy 4 dragon mantle instant/sorceries 4 retraction helix 4 defiant strike 4 gods willing 2 dig through time 2 triton tactics artifacts 4 springleaf drum lands 4 mystic monast...

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[deck] creatures 2 lagonna band elder 4 favored hoplite 4 akroan crusader 4 monastery swiftspear enchantments 4 jeskai ascendancy 4 dragon mantle instant/sorceries 4 retraction helix 4 defiant strike 4 gods willing 2 jeskai charm 2 triton tactics artifacts 4 springleaf drum lands 4 mystic monastery ...

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well thats why i bring in more of the combo is because of the hate. i can cast redundant pieces and leave them open to utter end or banishing light and the combo in the deck is not there for the same reason you stated. We have a combo in our deck for those situations that they board in ways to stall...

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So far ive played this deck at one small store event a starcity games iq and two daily events and so far I think the deck has amazing potential. I went 0-2 drop in one event and I went 3-1 losing in my final game due to a lack of sideboard options vs temur. I had a different sideboard going into my ...

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well it turns out that everyone was right about mindswipe and deflecting palm. I put them all aside for game day and came away with a 4-1 finish and a 4-0 finish in two events. I did not play rabblemaster and instead ran hushwyngs/ashclouds with mainboard nullify ad i needed sideboard supression fie...

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[deck] creatures 4 steppe lynx 4 wild nacatl 4 ghor-clan rampager 4 tarmogoyf 4 knight of the reliquary 4 scavenging ooze 2 fiendslayer paladin instants 4 path to exile 4 lightning bolt 4 lightning helix lands 1 forest 1 plains 1 mountain 1 sacred foundry 4 horizon canopy 2 stomping ground 1 temple ...

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lol i did say that all i did was take what we had from the old burn list and update it with similar cards. this basically is the same boros burn deck and ill explain why. Seeker does the same job as young pyro but slightly worse against heavy removal midrange decks. We are trading a creature that ge...

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the reason i like hushwing gryff is because its a creature that they dont want to kill and if they take 4 points of damage off of it waiting for mantis rider or seeker then we have just stoked them and if they take 6 or 8 we are getting lethal with critical mass of burn. Who wants to kill it? I know...

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pretty interesting list from top8 of the 5k Straight Boros Burn [deck] 4 Goblin Rabblemaster 4 Monastery Swiftspear 4 Seeker of the Way Creatures [12] 1 Chandra, Pyromaster Planeswalkers [1] 3 Arc Lightning 3 Chained to the Rocks 3 Deflecting Palm 4 Lightning Strike 4 Magma Jet 4 Searing Blood 4 St...

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[deck] creatures 4 seeker of the way 3 satyr firedancer 4 mantis rider enchantments 4 chained to the rocks burn spells 4 lightning strike 4 stoke the flames 4 magma jet 3 deflecting palm 4 jeskai charm 3 mindswipe lands 9 mountain 4 temple of enlightenment 3 shivan reef 2 battlefield forge 2 mana co...

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Got some notes from today's testing. I'll spare everyone the notes from the Abzan Weenie's matchup, because that deck proved itself to be a steaming pile. Either that, or it has zero way to win against 2 mana burn spells in general. Searing Blood and Monastery Swiftspear means that he can never att...

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I have come to the conclusion that my old mana base is horrible. This is what im looking at testing out next. currentl working on cockatrice right now. So far its working rather well but i still think it might fold to like a mardu blitz style deck with 12+ one drops and mardu ascendancy which ive al...

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I really just want Treasure Cruise to be Ancestral Recall.

dont we all.

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Thread has been amusing - how are you guys justifying 4x Searing Blood or 4x Deflecting Palm main-deck in an unknown meta? we take what was good from block and extrapolate from there. We dont really know 100% for sure what the meta will be but id rather not sit on my thumbs and wait for the pros to...

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after some consideration im actually going to put eidolon of the great revel into the maindeck and switch out satyr firedancers.

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Why is the deck running Frontier Bivuoac instead of Mystic Monastery?

lifegain i guess

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This deck actually looks good, kudos on sticking Mantis Rider in burn when everyone else was waiting for some creature-tempo shell to emerge. You need to smooth out the numbers though and probably drop Mindswipe from this list entirely. I actually built this deck the way nicholas heel said was one ...

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Im going to say this with the least amount of venom I can hold back. Noone on this forum needs to talk to anyone else the way we have done so far on this thread. Its poison and does neither of us any good. I personally do not like where this is going and im personaly getting pissed off at the lack o...

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I think we can put the deflecting palm and mindswipe debate to rest. Until the format is defined, who knows what will be a good build or a bad one. This is just where im starting off with my metagame in mind. I expecting large tap out style midrange decks to be the go to decks that people are going ...

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http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=12049 - second deck. I don't think this is much better. Swan Song + Searing Blood was cute though. Mindswipe and Deflecting Palm look like cards that swap in vs. control or aggro, respectively. Having 4x of each would be kinda funny in a mirror match. I ...

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it's not a card someone should be told to "go back to Salvation" for wanting to try. Except that nobody said that. But I did say this: At best, Palm will be a niche sideboard card lol khaos wrote that if i was going to vehemently defend my descisions while im getting "sound advice&qu...

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im trying to find some common ground here to we dont just keep butting heads

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