Dies to Removal

dauntless268

I've had a rather bad Gameday experience with the Galli's aggro list. Doesn't feel the build is well suited to handle anything in this meta. Liliana is huge against almost all of our playable 1-drops, which aren't great against Bant either. The prevalent delirium decks are more midrange or play Kozi...

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Check out this version by one of MTGO's top grinders:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/s ... urn#online

dauntless268

OK, here's the list that Todd Anderson advocated for your reference 4 Thermo Alchemist 3 Bedlam Reveler 3 Fiery Impulse 4 Fiery Temper 3 Alms of the Vein 4 Collective Brutality 4 Collective Defiance 4 Incendiary Flow 4 Tormenting Voice 9 Mountain 5 Swamp 2 Cinder Barrens 4 Foreboding Ruins 4 Smolder...

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@suffydolphan:

Unbelievable... Todd Anderson just suggested your list (more or less)

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/33 ... GINVI.html

dauntless268

Thanks for the report, interesting to read! I hope MDU and Lazer get to try (and post) their own takes on the new format soon as well!

dauntless268

Hey, I don't know what level you normally play on, but I think 6-3 at a GP is an excellent finish, so congrats :) Don't forget that you did this with a deck you completely built yourself! --------------- With so many decks tapping out for on Liliana on t3, could it be that Scab-Clan Berserker out of...

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Do you have a list?

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@ Stuffy: Looks good. I'd be concerned about the Delirium decks, but you can indeed hope that Collective Brutality does some work for you there MD. Not sure you can improve the matchup that much post SB. I almost want to Infinite Obliteration their Emrakul.... Good luck at the GP! @ MDU: Agree on 23...

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Stuffy can you post your current list and possible Sideboard configurations? (I.e. what do you cut against which matchup?). Without that it's pretty hard to give good advice. Generally speaking, I'm not sure about GDD in your deck. It has anti-synergy with Reveler, and also because you run so few cr...

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why Goblin Glory Chaser over Bellstriker? I'm not set on this one yet. Glory Chaser had my preference over Zurgo for 3 reasons: 1) Better chance of renowning him b/c of more burn 2) No-block clause of Zurgo vs. RW Humans and Bant 3) Can loot Glory Chasers drawn later with Defiance. I don't like any...

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If you can support Languish, it's probably the best sideboard tech vs. Bant, espectially since they will likely not expect it and there's a chance they overcommit to the board. Generally speaking, I would suggest you make a sideboard plan per matchup (just use top 5-10 of TMTG goldfish) and post it ...

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@ Stuffy: Good work on the deck. I tried it out once or twice but wasn't so happy with it TBH. Please keep posting! On your SB question: it's a tough matchup and I really wonder if it's easy to control them. Why not simply stick 4 Languish in a sort of transformative Sidboard? May have to bait a spe...

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Interesting 9-1 decklist by Pedro Cavalho from the Pro Tour: [deck] Creatures 9 4 Thermo-Alchemist 3 Thing in the Ice 2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Instants / Sorceries 23 2 Tormenting Voice 4 Incendiary Flow 4 Collective Defiance 2 Dispel 2 Unsubstantiate 3 Fiery Impulse 2 Lightning Axe 4 Fiery Temper Enc...

dauntless268

Intuitively, I would cut the card draw (possibly the 2 Read the Bones and 2 Tormenting Voice) This is as close as you can get to a traditional burn deck and very often this will turn into a damage race where you simply can't afford the tempo loss. It's possible that Bedlam changes all that but I'd b...

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Haven't been online the last days, so catching up a bit... @MDU: Based on my limited testing, I would confirm that Secret Burn is kinda mediocre vs. control. Main reason is that those control decks are not do-nothing durdle type but more Midrange decks that force you to use quite a bit of burn on th...

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By the time you cast Reveler you will have typically played all your burn spells, hoping to draw one or ideally 2 more to finish opponent off. Note that you can sometimes cast a Temper for 1 mana when you play a Bedlam. That said, it's a slow grindy card, and I don't think you can play more than 1 o...

dauntless268

Hmm... maybe you're right. After all we have infinite ways to remove the Queller and a Flash Dragon for 1 Mana is nothing to scoff at...

dauntless268

OK, so just for the record (and because I was stupid enough to buy Jaces at some point), I think this one could be quite strong: [deck] Lands 23 3 Island 10 Mountain 2 Highland Lake 4 Wandering Fumarole 4 Shivan Reef Creatures 15 4 Stormchaser Mage 4 Thermo Alchemist 4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy 3 Bedlam ...

dauntless268

How do you think Thunderbreak is positioned? I fear for it being Spell Queller-ed for maximum tempo loss...

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Starting to test now...

One option we have is to go red/blue. This would give us Stormchaser Mage for the main and fevered visions for the Sideboard, an excellent anti control card...

dauntless268

thanks, now I realize why nobody's playing it it mono red....

Thanks god theorycrafting will come to an end soon...

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Creatures 15 4 Insolent Neonate 4 Abbot of Keral Keep 4 Stromkirk Occultist 3 Bedlam Reveler Burn 23 4 Fiery Impulse 4 Lightning Axe 4 Fiery Temper 4 Incendiary Flow 4 Collective Defiance 3 Exquisite Firecraft Land 22 20 Mountain 2 Sea Gate Wreckage Sideboard 4 Rending Volley 4 Lightning Berserker ...

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Here's two links regarding Max McVety's deck:

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/33 ... erred.html

and

https://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comment ... _columbus/

McVety himself comments on his deck in the lower part of the thread

dauntless268

Absolutely, gotta love it... is Thermo Alchemist the new Young Peezy? Could add a Haven or two as well... It's definitely something very different from all we've played before. Still hard to see how you can win against Bant Company without getting a few points of creature damage, but hack this is wo...

dauntless268

Not sure I would agree. Not in a world where everybody is playing flash creatures. But the build I want to try build is a little bit different with a "light" madness theme with 4 Lighgning Axe, Falkenrath Gorger and Insolent Neonate as enablers and Fiery Temper and Stromkirk Occultist as O...

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I would rate it stronger, because Emerge does not require to commit to "do nothing to the board" ramp spells....

Question is how many burn spells we want. I like Firecraft, but prefer the flexibility of Collective Defiance and not sure we can justify too many cmc3 spells?

dauntless268

Ugh, this new UR Emerge deck with 4 Kozilek's Return is going to shred RDW to pieces.... This could be an jnteresting meta

dauntless268

I'm not sure about Hanweir on account of all those Reflector Mages and Spell Quellers that I expect to see. Re: Otherworldly Outburst: Compare attacking with a Zurgo into a Sylvan Advocate (or any other x/3 for that matter) when holding a Titan's Strength with holding an Otherworldly Outburst. In on...

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I finally figured that Otherworldly Outburst is worth a try in a deck that runs enough 1-drops Here's my two updated lists for week 1, including a shot at a possible sideboard 4 Insolent Neonate 4 Lightning Berserker 4 Falkenrath Gorger 3 Zurgo Bellstriker 4 Abbot, Keral Keep 4 Otherworldly Outburst...

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Here's the list Tom played: [deck=Tom Ross' RB Madness] Creatures (20) 4 Falkenrath Gorger 4 Furyblade Vampire 2 Incorrigible Youths 4 Insolent Neonate 4 Stromkirk Occultist 2 Olivia, Mobilized for War Lands (24) 10 Mountain 5 Swamp 4 Foreboding Ruins 4 Smoldering Marsh 1 Geier Reach Sanitarium Spel...

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I understand searing effects, was just pointing out that at 4CMC, Impetuous Devils does something similar as Collective Defiance in certain board states. ------------------ Overall, I think Impetuous Devils could be one of those great sideboard cards, that do a ton of work against tapout-based midra...

dauntless268

Thanks MDU, interesting way to approach deckbuilding by looking at which types of red effects we want to have. I've been thinking a lot about Red in this new Meta, given that I want to keep playing Rx in both paper and online as long as it's as much fund as it has been in th past couple of months (g...

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I agree. There's a lot of possibilities for Rx now and I also prefer the grindy style much more. I think it's fair to state already at this point that both Bant Humans and Bant Spirits will be very good decks this season (Tamiyo is an absurd card, too) and that Ramp decks will be there, too - possib...

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@ Stuffydolphan: I like Bedlam but I think guy's home is probably more an UR Prowess Deck, where it acts as a kind of Treasure Cruise - like effect to refill your hand. -------------------- Sooooo now the set is fully spoiled, let's see. A few of the remaining red cards are noteworthy, mainly the ne...

dauntless268

I'm not really sold on Falkenrath Gorger , Zurgo Bellstriker or Stromkirk Occultist in a W dominated format. Why exactly is that? I can see Zurgo actively being bad vs. Wx aggro as not being able to block, but Gorger should be an OK g1 card against them. Other than that if such white decks are slow...

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Excellent!! The ability to rid of these pesky Hangarbacks is absolutely priceless... This gives us all the tools I think we need to build a more traditional Red Aggro Deck. This would be my starting point: Creatures 22 4 Insolent Neonate 4 Lightning Berserker 4 Falkenrath Gorger 2 Zurgo Bellstriker ...

dauntless268

Looks to me like a very solid card... better than Exquisite Firecraft given how it scales. I also like Stromkirk Occultist. It's not quite Ire Shaman on its own, but 2 mana madness a very nice bonus. EoT Lightning Axe their creature, Discard Occultist, then Swing for an extra card. This guy is sooo ...

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Come on, why'd you say this as the one who has proven that this season's "unplayable red" is actually quite good?? ;-) Don't forget that a lot of burn is at common or uncommon, and that by definition could not have been possibly spoiled yet. As for me, I definitely wouldn't mind a good 1-d...

dauntless268

Bloodhall Priest could be very nice with Olivia, since it can potentially get rid of blockers and then bash for a hasty 5...

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Look, a nice RB madness outlet!

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/bloodhallpriest.html

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