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NEW Slivers: confirmed!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:38 am
by ExarionUniverse1

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:55 am
by Second Harkius
This is a clever addition to the newest core set.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:59 am
by Kaitscralt
Slivers are always welcome but updating them to look not like slivers is lame.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:01 am
by Pendulum
Slivers = Cylons now, apparently.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:02 am
by Second Harkius
Slivers are always welcome but updating them to look not like slivers is lame.
I dunno. Now they look like Predator and Predator is badass.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:08 am
by Col. Khaddafi
what the fah

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:19 am
by iamabadman
fucking creative

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:32 am
by ExarionUniverse1
Doug Beyer explains why new Slivers :http://dougbeyermtg.tumblr.com/post/498 ... rs-evolved

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:53 am
by Kaitscralt
Did Doug Beyer explain why Onar put this thread in the wrong spot

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:05 am
by admin
moved

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:09 am
by Col. Khaddafi
"it’s actually really clever what the guys have come up with"

Doug

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:36 pm
by iamabadman
now its time for slivers with classes :/

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:53 pm
by Thrillho
Human Sliver Cleric.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:13 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
I mean, they had something that was pretty much unique which wasn't some rip-off of someone else mythos, but now they are feeling the need to turn them into some bland monster.

Also the thing about it just affecting your dudes is just lazy design ala hexproof, these days it just seems people are so self-entitled that wotc feels the need to make mechanics with no possible drawbacks least people gonna rage. I love stuff like playing against slivers and sideboarding a plague sliver as anti-sliver tech. Or that time when those kids sweeped some tournament with a poison sliver deck back in time spiral block.

I'm sure newfags will love the new take though, but I really think its a damn shame that they felt the need to bastardize the flavor and mechanics.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:48 pm
by Checkbox
The "you control" thing just had to be done unless they were going to reprint a shitload of slivers; there's only so many times you can roll out the same thing without changing the core mechanic at all. If they wanted to keep printing new slivers, something had to change.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:52 pm
by Thrillho
they jumped the shark with that slivers premium deck, so it's not really like they can possibly fail any worse at this point, even if it means rebooting slivers as human-form michael bay's transformers.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:55 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
human-form michael bay's transformers.
thats a perfectly accurate description of what these duds look like.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:38 pm
by iamabadman
i liked the transformers movies though. if they referenced the old style silvers via flavor text that would be cool

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:05 pm
by Checkbox
silvers?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:49 pm
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
Oh cool new sliv....wtf? Why do they look like this? These are not the slivers that existed.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:32 pm
by Checkbox
THESE THINGS FUCKING EVOLVE.

How is that so hard to figure out.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:07 pm
by Thrillho
checkbox, i know this is difficult to grasp, but there's a general "character style sheet" that accompanies the various races of magic -- goblins are little earth-toned dudes with big noses that tend to be wiry, elves a slender pale guys and very tall, humans look like fucking humans, cats look like cats. it's all pretty cut-and-dry, if a creature is X race, it looks generally like X. now what if humans in the next set all had 6 legs, goat horns, 5 eyes, and had the face of a fly? and that's all they were, not like it was some exception like insectile aberration, where there's a flavorful reason why this specific human looks different from the rest (he's jeff goldblum, duh). there's a stylized specific creature and characteristics that make slivers slivers, and while there are vague nods to those established characteristics, all of these new slivers break established convention.. it's not just a single one-off
stylistic thing like the simic maze runner, experiment one, or insectile aberration, it's the whole race as spoiled thus far. it's not something that actually matters in any tangible way, but it also doesn't make a whole lot of sense from a style perspective in a game that has an overwhelming segment of it dedicated to style.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:52 pm
by iamabadman
i wish checkbvox would evolve into a better person

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:00 pm
by Checkbox

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:18 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
Checkbox, not every creature in the magic lore needs to be bipedal with opposable thumbs.

Yeah slivers evolved, but they evolved into a lazy generic design and that is all, its not like people are going to quit mtg over this, but its just sad that they took out what was one of the few unique designs that MTG is responsible for, replacing it by some visual garbage that you could find in any low-budget sci-fi rip-off of aliens/predator/whatever

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:21 pm
by Checkbox
I'm not saying I'm happy about it, but it's not completely out of flavor for this sort of thing to happen.

And like I said (and like he said in the article), there's only so many variations you can do/use with the "traditional" sliver looks (and mechanics) before you have to change something. The alternative was no new slivers, because they needed to create new design and artistic space somewhere, so I'll take this alternative.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:11 pm
by iamabadman
The set is partially on shanadar that plane from the pc game. Worse plane ever.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:40 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
Checkbox why are you ruining the only magic thread I've cared to read in months with your foolishness.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:39 pm
by ExarionUniverse1
Checkbox why are you ruining the only magic thread I've cared to read in months with your foolishness.
sliver ego? :B

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:35 am
by Neo Metal Sonic
While I'm not raging at the change of the Slivers, I can think of 5+ ways of making them more like the old ones (in regard to the art, mind you).