We finally Died to Removal - #BlatherGate [10]

[( G_R )]

Dat respect

[( G_R )]

Moo

[( G_R )]

Cows

[iamabadman]

dat ass

[Stardust]

So this is ZombieDTR...

[Stardust]

I should probably start a mafia game.

[iamabadman]

mafia is dead

[Stardust]

You gon' get lynched, son.

[( G_R )]

New basic land? Magic is coming to an end.

[( G_R )]

Out Facebook page has 6 likes. It had 7 but someone unliked us.

[Stardust]

New basic land? Magic is coming to an end.

That's more like it! Magic news! This site has a purpose again!

Seems okay. The Basic won't really see much play, but the <requires colorless mana> thing should be fine. Interested to see where they go with that in the commons and uncommons.

I don't like the art on Wastes though. Too colourful. The place looks like it's brimming with mana, not some desolate Eldrazi-munched wasteland!

[Col. Khaddafi]

There's a new basic land?

I learnt it on DTR first

[Stardust]

Me too. Quality site we have here.

[iamabadman]

might be fake though.

[Stardust]

Super high quality fake if so.

[iamabadman]

jesus christ if its real tho.

[Manders]

The fucking world is ending, and you guys are concerned with whether a land is real or not.

SHEESH

[iamabadman]

it numbs the mind until eventual death.


btw g_r i suggested some of my mtg friends to like the dtr facebook page. if any of them get unruly obviously block them, but they are mostly good people.

[Stardust]

The fucking world is ending, and you guys are concerned with whether a land is real or not.

SHEESH

If the world is ending, I'm going to spend my last minutes doing what I love most: talking about Magic: the Gathering cards on the Internet.

[Corruption Watch]

[Blackhound]

Greetings, have you seen the latest post on expired rascals help desk ? how do you feel about it ??

[( G_R )]

I'm banned silly. Screenshoot it and post it here.

[Blackhound]

I cant on this shitty tablet, im sure corruption watch will get on the case.

[Blackhound]

If he comes back.

[Blackhound]

It would also seem my gimmick has been banned after posting he should come visit .he razzies section on this site

[Col. Khaddafi]

Warp, I stepped down from admin awhile back, but I've been given the authority to speak for the staff on this issue. Anyway, if you're getting 9 spam cards in the same forum for the same problem in ~900 posts, you're way above the norm. Like, that is actually quite extreme. It means that you aren't actually learning from the interactions.

You and I were discussing your idealogical differences with the rules of the Rulings forum back in 2012. Let's call that our starting point. Maybe you have a slip-up here or there since then, but realistically that should not account for more than 2-3 warnings in a 3 year period. I'm not saying that out of some abstract concept of "I think this is reasonable", but rather out of knowing from experience how many warnings we give out and how many an individual poster might expect. Everyone makes their honest mistake, and we may even make them twice -- both of my warnings prior to coming on staff were for making the same mistake (at the time, that was two warnings in the space of what I think was 1500 posts).

Now, let's ask who your posts hurt: Did someone get their pride wounded by your posts? No.
Perhaps they were offended? Probably not.
What might the problem be then? Your posts frequently have gone against the rules designed to make the Rulings forum into a resource. There was likely no "this post hurt me" moment (although nit-picking for its own sake does sometimes cause confusion and that does hurt someone in this context), but neither were they posts that were okay. And that you continued doing the same thing for three years running, I think that is a clear indicator that at best you were not learning from your mistakes and at worst were deliberately ignoring them.

As for infractions being arbitrary? I don't think they are. Sometimes they are inconsistent. Maybe we don't see a post, or we see it 2 weeks after the fact, or we see a thread go so far off the rails that we'd rather just yank it back on course without carding 15 people that were screwed by circumstance. Those are all areas where inconsistencies arise, and we acknowledge that. But those are things that we accept as realities of running a site. And we trust the judgement of our mods in these cases.

I won't deny that some of your interactions with the staff have been less than ideal -- I still remember the tangle we discussed back in the day as not being our staff's best foot forward. But I think that that it is not really germane to our discussion.

In our shoes, if you're having the same trouble with the same poster month in and month out, what would you do? We tried to work through it with you for close to 3 years. When is it no longer responsible to sink staff hours into just you when those might instead be spent on the rest of the community? A subforum ban was deemed the best possible response. On any other forum after this many staff altercations, you'd have probably been banned. We don't really see you causing problems or breaking rules except in Rulings. Our solution was to separate you from the location where you had repeated trouble. These subforum bans are incredibly rare - I can think of less than 10 users who have recieved them, but we judge them to be fairer to you and your involvement in the community than falling back on our other remaining option (the full site ban).

lol

[Corruption Watch]

I'm enjoying the irony of Megiddo's spam posts being ignored...in the middle of a guy trying to appeal a spam infraction.

[iamabadman]

didnt he call us terrorists?

[Corruption Watch]

And we trust the judgement of our mods in these cases.

[Col. Khaddafi]

meggido is one of their cronies, it's a long standing tradition that any higher staff, current or former, is not subject to the same rules than the userbase.

[Stardust]

What happened today?

[admin]

Actually it started yesterday.

Full migration to a new server, with fresh reinstall of the linux kernel and brand new hard drives. Didn't even bother to warn people since I was secretly hoping that since only a post barely gets in every 48hours in this dump, no one would even notice that the site was down for almost 24h

[admin]

ts ironic that after this long postponed migration the site is now at its fullest efficiency, with proper spam countermeasures, good posting features, and all that jazz. Sadly everyone just left since just having the hardware without the people isn't enough

[( G_R )]

We just need more drama.

[( G_R )]

Drama is always the solution.

[( G_R )]

The fastest growing Magic: the Gathering drama on the internet.

[( G_R )]

The Facebook page is thriving with likes

[( G_R )]

When compared to posts in the forum, that is

[Stardust]

I like this forum. Please let your facebook page know.

[Manders]

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