Planechase Mafia - Game Over

[Stardust]

You are currently on Kamigawa.

Votecount

Not voting: Mcdonalds, hamfactorial, RedNihilist, rezombad, Col. Khaddafi, rcwraspy, ( G_R ), Pedrobear

With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.


Mcdonalds has been prodded.

[Col. Khaddafi]

Why haven't you used it?

Was keeping i for an unfavorable night scenario like being in Wildfire, Phyrexia, Bolas Realm, etc...

Expand on this thought.

What do you want me to add? i felt that I should keep the ability in reserve just in case, since we always ended day in good/neutral planes.

[Pedrobear]

Natural planeswalking can also be submitted by PM.

[hamfactorial]

Thanks to all the dead players who posted and helped us out

@raspy answer my question bro

[rezombad]

Why haven't you used it?

Was keeping i for an unfavorable night scenario like being in Wildfire, Phyrexia, Bolas Realm, etc...

Expand on this thought.

What do you want me to add? i felt that I should keep the ability in reserve just in case, since we always ended day in good/neutral planes.

You're so full of shit that your eyes are brown.

I will expand after work

[Col. Khaddafi]

You are currently on Kamigawa.

Votecount

Not voting: Mcdonalds, hamfactorial, RedNihilist, rezombad, Col. Khaddafi, rcwraspy, ( G_R ), Pedrobear

With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.


Mcdonalds has been prodded.

Hey, I have a vote on McDonalds

Why haven't you used it?

Was keeping i for an unfavorable night scenario like being in Wildfire, Phyrexia, Bolas Realm, etc...

Expand on this thought.

What do you want me to add? i felt that I should keep the ability in reserve just in case, since we always ended day in good/neutral planes.

You're so full of shit that your eyes are brown.

I will expand after work

Sure, I would love to hear about your beef.

[Mcdonalds]

Also @McDonalds: what about my post about Bolas Realm? what about it is scummy?

(I don't recall answering this)

Like you quoted a post of me giving a highfive and then voted a different guy.


Pro town planes;
Bolas' Meditation
Dominaria
Shalandar

Neutral Planes:
Rabiah

Scum Planes:
Wildfire
Ulgorotha

Also, why do you place Bolas Meditation realm as a town plane? that makes no particular sense. Like someone who didn't vote is untargetble for the night, Ok that means a town member cannot be NK'd but also scuym canno be copped. At the very best its a neutral plane.

Also its Nicol'Fucking'Bolas personal plane, that's scummy as hell, whats there to grant that olas can't pull any special tricks while in his plane? We should avoid it like the plague.

Bolded for emphasis, but yeah, why the fuck would that alarm you?

[Col. Khaddafi]

Like, its Bolas personal plane? Shall we try to go there and find out if the plane is as pro-town as its name seems to imply?

[Mcdonalds]

If you wish but that's really not my point

In rias post, he stated it was pro-town based on its ability, you disagree because it means scum can't be cop'd (I'll concede that point because I don't really feel like discussing the merits of that)

What however is your assertion that it being nicol bolas personal realm is scummy, which, while in universe, you'd be correct, however beyond flavor gaming, we have no reason to assume anything but what the planes ability is, unless however, someone has knowledge we don't.

Now I won't quote myself, but I do ask, go on...

[Col. Khaddafi]

Flavor Gaming has been in line with the dead town planeswalkers insofar, but sure if you want to keep splitting hairs, be my guest, I feel my opinion about Bolas realm is self-evdent I dunno what else to tell you.

[rcwraspy]

I chose those 6 players each night because at each of those points in time those were the top 2 on my scum list or I suspected them of some sort of trickery (i.e. Ham is very town this game but there's something nagging me about it). I also wanted to spread it around a little bit to get some info, which has only worked (potentially) on Night 3.

I also have no idea how/why rez is confirmed town.

You had 6 top scum suspects on three days with no duplication? What caused you to stop suspecting each person on subsequent days?

Nothing. Those 6 people were pinging me the hardest on the "scumdar" at the end of each game day (or for different reasons that I still can't articulate in your case). It doesn't necessarily mean they replaced other people, and I also noted that I wanted to spread it around a little.

[rcwraspy]

If you wish but that's really not my point

In rias post, he stated it was pro-town based on its ability, you disagree because it means scum can't be cop'd (I'll concede that point because I don't really feel like discussing the merits of that)

What however is your assertion that it being nicol bolas personal realm is scummy, which, while in universe, you'd be correct, however beyond flavor gaming, we have no reason to assume anything but what the planes ability is, unless however, someone has knowledge we don't.

Now I won't quote myself, but I do ask, go on...

Hasn't every plane we've visited been on flavor so far? I wasn't keeping track, but now that you're making the point it seems to me they've all been on-flavor.

[Stardust]

Hey, I have a vote on McDonalds.

Nope, sure don't.

[Mcdonalds]

My point is that with the information that has been presented (the name of the realm, flavor text and ability), we've no reason to assume it's super scummy, especially when the ability (depending on how you look at it) is pro town.

The only reason to assume it's scummy is if a)you're flavor gaming (which is normally a poor idea, and even in light of all the revealed roles being good guys, still largely is) or b) you have information about the setup

[Col. Khaddafi]

Vote McDonalds

[( G_R )]

Planeswalk

[Mcdonalds]

GR what do you think of scumbag

[( G_R )]

People who haven't claimed should do so pronto.

GR what do you think of scumbag

He's still high on my scum list, but you're on top of it now.

[Stardust]

Planeswalk

You are now on Theros. While on Theros, votes are made for a Champion rather than for a lynch. The Champion cannot be killed this Night. Once the Champion is announced, posting stops and that player has 24 hours to choose another player to kill.

[hamfactorial]

Sweet!

[hamfactorial]

@Stardust will a successful vote end the day?

[Mcdonalds]

Interesting

[( G_R )]

Champion Pedrobear

[( G_R )]

@Stardust will a successful vote end the day?

That's what it says. "Posting stops"

[hamfactorial]

Posting stops doesn't necessarily imply end the day, so I asked for clarification.

Champion Vote Pedrobear

[Stardust]

@Stardust will a successful vote end the day?

Yes.

Also, these votes are the same as votes to lynch. The votecount was not reset when you walked here and will not be reset if you leave. Only the end result is different. Be warned.

[hamfactorial]

Thanks Stardust. One more question: will reaching 5 votes trigger the transition to Night instantly, or is there some twilight period where thread/PM walks can be submitted?

[Stardust]

Night won't officially start until after the Champion has chosen a target, but it won't be Day either. No Day-use abilities can be used after the last vote is cast.

[Pedrobear]

I'll wait for the hammer on myself or planewalk away if there is another private planeswalking + scummy vote on me.

[Pedrobear]

My point is that with the information that has been presented (the name of the realm, flavor text and ability), we've no reason to assume it's super scummy, especially when the ability (depending on how you look at it) is pro town.

The only reason to assume it's scummy is if a)you're flavor gaming (which is normally a poor idea, and even in light of all the revealed roles being good guys, still largely is) or b) you have information about the setup

If Scumbag claim is correct, he has an ability linked to specific planes. I can imagine (and I think it's his line too) that if someone has Bolas roleplay, he might also have an ability linked to his own plane.
See also Chandra on Wildfire.

[Pedrobear]

And we wouldn't want to stay on a plane where someone has an additionnal ability compare to all the others planeswalkers without knowing clearly if THAT player is scum or town.

[( G_R )]

Unvote

Guys, it's too much risk. We could end up lynching Pedro and losing the game. Let's planeswalk away from here.

[( G_R )]

Where are those claims?

[Pedrobear]

i'm lurking there all GMT+1 day time. We can do it without much risks. If I'm championed, I won't target someone without a consensus about it.

Or planeswalking away and do a normal lynch will come to the same conclusion, but we've wasted one planeswalk.

[Pedrobear]

And it wasn't Scumbag claim but yours actually.

Goddamn I still have troubles with all your nicknames different from your usernames.

[hamfactorial]

Unvote

Pedro, I'm willing to make you the champion and cast my vote at a certain time to prevent shenanigans. If you want to go through with it, please tell us.

[Pedrobear]

I'm totally ok with it. Just set a good coordination up.

[hamfactorial]

I'm GMT-7 and I'm available by phone to vote throughout the day while I'm at work.

[Stardust]

Time for a deadline? Sure, don't mind if I do.

Deadline is set for Thursday, June 18th at 12:00 noon MST. Deadline clock.

[rcwraspy]

I can check in more often in order to coordinate the champion vote.

Also not sure how to read g_r's reluctance and desire to walk away. Sure there's a risk but the reward seems large also.