Ragnarok Mafia (Scum Win) Tattered Banners and Bloody Flags

[TubeHunter]

It's just gr and kaze now

[imopen2]

Oh yea. G_R, lets see it.

[( G_R )]

Are we under the United States Constitution jurisdiction here? Can I plead the Fifth? No? OK.

Once again in a game of mafia, and without even knowing it, I am responsible for the death of townie Stardust. I just read how Stardust asked the vig to target him at night and I guess Yanni simply chose to comply.

I am Nidhogg, Eater Beneath the Tree, town, and I (Yanni) targeted Stardust with an ability that turned any other ability targeting him into a deadly shot.

[( G_R )]

Kaze, obv.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm Fenrir, Unleashed Wolf of the Ván.

I am town.

Once per game, at Night, I may choose to stay awake. That Night, if a player targets me, they will die. The kill cannot be stopped, blocked, or protected against.

I have not used my shot yet.

[rezombad]

So we have 11 power roles and 1 vanilla?

[rcwraspy]

So we have 11 power roles and 1 vanilla?

2. Hamfactorial, our day 1 lynch, was also vanilla.

[rcwraspy]

Correction - at least 2 vanilla. I don't know that Zemanjaski ever claimed a role, he just confirmed the neighborhood before he couldn't post any longer.

We also don't know that everybody's claims are legitimate, of course. Some will obviously be lies because if there weren't scum left in the game it'd be over.

[imopen2]

Did I miss pie's claim? I can't remember what it was..

[rcwraspy]

Did I miss pie's claim? I can't remember what it was..

Alright, back home. Skimmed the thread at work so I'm kinda caught up. @rezzy(?): I gave my read on imopen. Frustrated-ish townie.

Now for confirming Tube. Well, not confirming him as town but pretty damn close.

I'm Loki the trickster god. I honestly don't know much about the lore for this game, but I've seen Dogma. Loki's a dickhole. I'm guessing he's a usually-evil dickhole. This helps explain why I was a bit hesitant to lynch based off flavor alone btw; obviously with a competent mod there's not a way to flavor-break the
game.

My role is... weird. I'm basically a Jack-of-all-Trades. I get three one-shot abilities: a track, a watch, and an cop-scan. However, I don't get any results. One currently living player is chosen randomly each night (and I asked Iso to confirm in case, they can be town or scum) to receive them for me. In this case, I guess Tube received my results.

This leads me to believe that unless we have some other investigation role, scum may not have a roleblocker. My role kind of nerfs itself: the less townies alive the better chance that scum intercept one of my results (which they can either claim for townpoints or just not claim it if it's incriminating) plus there's a chance a player can be chosen and NK'd. It's pretty shitty after the first night. Good news is, it's also good if I'm NKed, because if scum don't have a roleblocker, my results still go through and I just have to hope they get sent to town.

I targeted Starbuck with my track
last night. In hindsight, the track was probably a worse choice than the cop-scan. I didn't think that through. I remember Star saying her role was crazy, and wasn't sure if she was gambiting or actually had a cool role. I thought she was town but there were a lot of people that didn't seem to agree with me, so I could either confirm her or know she was just a vanilla basically (provided, of course, scum didn't receive my results). And on the off-chance I was wrong and I tracked her to the kill, win-win. High-risk high-reward, but I also knew that if no one claimed they got a random tracker result than the result went to scum. Again, in hindsight I should have just used the cop scan but I guess it won't hurt to have going forward.

Which leads me to why Tube is almost-confirmed town: scum wouldn't have even bothered bringing up the result. Scum would have kept their mouth shut, but Tube actually claimed. I mean, he could be scum doing it for townpoints, but I don't think that's the case here.

So,
the downside to my role kinda sucks, especially when this Night phase is gonna be skipped. If Lord_M flips scum or we lynch scum tomorrow, we're at... 4:2 going into night assuming 3-scum? So there's a 60% chance the results get sent to town... I'm too tired to do math.

[imopen2]

Oh yea

[Kazekirimaru]

The game is obviously over, we're all town, and Iso is just fucking up again

[TubeHunter]

Loki, a page or two back, and I got his 1 shot watch of stardust wich apparently killed him.
On another note, I'm ready to kill gr now. Nidhogg is evil as hell in Norse method, and that ability is not looking town

[TubeHunter]

Norse mythos*

[Kazekirimaru]

rcwraspy is the only claimed vanilla, it looks like. Ham was at least a vanilla neighbor. This leads me to believe he's lying.

I also think GR's role doesn't look like a town role, as I don't see how town could benefit from it.

[imopen2]

I am Freyja, Afterlife Overseer.

I am town.

Once during the game at night, I can target a dead player and return them to life. If they had a limited use ability that had already been used, they can use it again.



popcorn to imopen.

Why didn't you bring Z or ham back night 1? Confirmed town is ++good and unless you are scum you had no reason to believe you would survive to night 2.

[imopen2]

rcwraspy is the only claimed vanilla, it looks like. Ham was at least a vanilla neighbor. This leads me to believe he's lying.

I also think GR's role doesn't look like a town role, as I don't see how town could benefit from it.

I agree. I am still feeling a Rezombad, G_R, rcw team, in that order

[TubeHunter]

So me, kaze, pie, and Imopen as town, rest scum sounds fine to me.

We should kill gr first

[Kazekirimaru]

I want to hear from rezombad before we start putting down votes toDay.

[rcwraspy]

rcwraspy is the only claimed vanilla, it looks like. Ham was at least a vanilla neighbor. This leads me to believe he's lying.

I also think GR's role doesn't look like a town role, as I don't see how town could benefit from it.

I'm not, but I don't expect anybody to believe that at face value.

GR's role looks scummy, but so does Odin's role in a 3-player neighborhood with 2 town.

Good point by imopen. I don't understand why Rez wouldn't "rez" Ham or Z night 1 either. I was waffling between Rez or Imopen2 on being a scum, but I'd choose Rez over Imopen2 at this point if I had to pick just one. LMD flipping town sealed that one for me, and imopen's question just reinforces it.

I'm still a strong believer that
Tube is scum. Horribly erratic posting, sniping Z because "PRESSURE!", both his neighbors flipped town, his role kills a neighbor, and we now know LMD was town and Tube hammered.

Strong Scum Read
TubeHunter
Rezombad
(G_R)
InflatablePie
Imopen2
Weak Scum Read

Pie's claim post in defense of Tube is what puts him on my scumdar, since I feel so strongly about Tube as scum.

So far toDay I'd be fine lynching Tube, Rez, or G_R. I'd have to be convinced about Pie or Imopen2.

PEDIT: And oh look, Tube is hugging Pie right back. TUBE!! Do you have any reasons why Pie is town other than his claim post in your defense?

[imopen2]

You forgot kaze on your spectrum, rcw

[rcwraspy]

You forgot kaze on your spectrum, rcw

Kaze is the only one I'm leaning town on. That spectrum was Strong Scum to Weak Scum. I didn't forget him, he just doesn't fit on it.

[TubeHunter]

No, can pie still be scum, but he reads more town to me than either you or especially gr now.

Rezmo can talk some, and we can make some night plans, but gr is clearly who dies today. He is nidhogg, malice bringer, eater of Yggdrasil, his first paragraph of his mythos page says he sides with the giants, his role is horridly untownie. It doesn't get more clear cut than that.

[( G_R )]

Yeah, and scum would claim a night kill like that.

Of all the claims, Loki is the one I like the least. That said, it would be too obvious for Loki to be scum, this is an Iso game after all (my first ever too) and that leads me to believe that Odin is nowhere near cleared. I noticed how he says kill instead of lynch

[rcwraspy]

If there are 3 scum in this game, that makes it 4:3 right now. A mislynch brings it to 3:3.

With 6 players, it takes 4 to lynch still, right?

That means barring any night protection or kill (I'm going to have to re-read all the power role claims), we're at MyLo right now.

People had better be damned sure about their reads.

[InflatablePie]

Lynching based off flavor is bad, we need to analyze roles. We just lynched town because of flavor

At work, try not to put down votes for at least three hours; I need to reread and analyze the claims when I'm not on a shitty phone

[pedit] in my and GRs defense, like I said earlier, Iso would either mix up the good and bad names or give scum fake names or something

Pedit2: lylo; 3-3 means scum.can force NL. Now stop posting dammit

[TubeHunter]

Gr hasn't actually done anything though.
Look at yannis posts, they don't contribute anything to the town

[( G_R )]

Or: Lynch GR because Yanni is a dumb fuck, especially when he's a drunk dumb fuck.

[( G_R )]

My scum team so far is: IP, rezombad and TH. I read this game in patches, so I'm still looking for posts that clear any of them.

[( G_R )]

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[imopen2]

My scum team so far is: IP, rezombad and TH. I read this game in patches, so I'm still looking for posts that clear any of them.

This is my list as well if pie is lying about his role (which would mean tube is lying as well)

[imopen2]

This is not outside the realm of possibility considering pie lynched ham an tube lynched LMD but I think Rez should be toDay's lynch since he is on my list either way

[rcwraspy]

This is not outside the realm of possibility considering pie lynched ham an tube lynched LMD but I think Rez should be toDay's lynch since he is on my list either way

Tube and Rez are on my list either way. I can see Pie being the 3rd of that team but feel more strongly about (G_R) right now.

[( G_R )]

Why is that? Because Yanni thought it would be a good idea to vig someone who was asking to be vigged?

[Kazekirimaru]

You forgot kaze on your spectrum, rcw

Kaze is the only one I'm leaning town on. That spectrum was Strong Scum to Weak Scum. I didn't forget him, he just doesn't fit on it.

Quit trying to be my friend, creep.

[Kazekirimaru]

As of right now I'd happily see G_R or rezombad lynched. Unless rezombad has a fantastic fucking reason for not phoenix down-ing someone Night one.

[Kazekirimaru]

rcwraspyxNoose sounds like a good OTP, as well.

[( G_R )]

Kaze always wants to lynch GR

[Kazekirimaru]

#getsuchong'd

[TubeHunter]

We lynch gr, and tell Rezmo if he doesn't bring someone back, he is deader than dead Tommorow. This is my proposed course of action