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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:49 am
by Captain Murphy
oh boy manders

We all know thats a terrible excuse to softclaim

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:55 am
by The Dark Guardian
Vote Manders

Jones seems quite defensive as well. But meh, I haven't played with him in quite a while...

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:45 am
by Mogadishu Jones
Hahaha the votes on manders are bad to properly read her you have to pretend you have a vagina.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:27 am
by PhantomS
Meant captain murphy's rhyming post, not yannis. Also, in case it wasn't clear yanni is not too far behind ximbad on my list of shady characters.
I make my RVS posts relevant and I wanted the first post of the game to be a quick rhyme

But I do love the one guy in every game who makes an uproar about RVS and votes people for caring about RVS while not realizing that saying you don't care about RVS and voting for someone is practically caring about RVS because your whole argument is "R-V-S"

Yanni posts like a tard when he is town and aggressively as
mafia so he is not worth your time phantom. I do find the string of imopen2 posts though...

unvote
So, I'm meant to believe that Yanni is town because he's really terrible at being town normally? If that's true, then this game is really going to suck. Vote stands for now.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:49 am
by teefo
Hahaha the votes on manders are bad to properly read her you have to pretend you have a vagina.
i actually agree with kp like she isn't really acting scummy she is just being really dumb and wanting to soft claim for literally no reason

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:55 am
by Shalako
Second Vote Count.

Yanni (3)- Ximbad, Mogadishu Jones, PhantomS

Ximbad (2)- Manders, imopen2

Manders (1)- The Guardian

G_R (1) -Yanni

Not Voting: KillJoy, teefo, G_R, Col. Khaddafi, Captain Murphy

With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch
Let me know if there are any mistakes.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:57 pm
by Captain Murphy
Meant captain murphy's rhyming post, not yannis. Also, in case it wasn't clear yanni is not too far behind ximbad on my list of shady characters.
I make my RVS posts relevant and I wanted the first post of the game to be a quick rhyme

But I do love the one guy in every game who makes an uproar about RVS and votes people for caring about RVS while not realizing that saying you don't care about RVS
and voting for someone is practically caring about RVS because your whole argument is "R-V-S"

Yanni posts like a tard when he is town and aggressively as mafia so he is not worth your time phantom. I do find the string of imopen2 posts though...

unvote
So, I'm meant to believe that Yanni is town because he's really terrible at being town normally? If that's true, then this game is really going to suck. Vote stands for now.
No, you can believe whatever you want. It was just my opinion and I wanted you to know.

Carry on.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:02 pm
by Captain Murphy
Second Vote Count.

Yanni (3)- Ximbad, Mogadishu Jones, PhantomS

Ximbad (3)- Manders, PhantomS, imopen2

Manders (1)- The Guardian

G_R (1) -Yanni

Not Voting: KillJoy, teefo, G_R, Col. Khaddafi

With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch
Let me know if there are any mistakes.
I'm not listed anywhere hombre

Ximbad wagon is bad too. Why all the early badness?

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:19 pm
by Shalako
Ah Counted PhantomS twice. That's why.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:53 pm
by Yannaria
How could we have a discussion about RVS without calling your posts into question?

"I was talking about math, that has nothing to do with the number 7!"
strawman. "I was talking about math as an entire subject, not imaginary numbers which you seem to focus on"
Yanni, if my answer was so important that you made it a point to mention it in a previous post, why did you just ignore that you'd obtained it?
why do I have to respond to posts the minute they come up? I want time to think about your response before responding.
I also think that
your answer is absolute trash and it bothers the hell out of me for just trying to stimulate discussion because we already had discussion going about spammy RVS posts and after agreeing with Phantoms you posted this
http://community.ist.utl.pt/posting.php ... 13&p=22094
unvote GR, vote manders

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:08 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
Ha!

^real comtent

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:01 pm
by PhantomS
[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=22334#p22334:22nnnxdr]Yanni » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:53 pm[/url:22nnnxdr]":22nnnxdr][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=22267#p22267:22nnnxdr]PhantomS » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:40 pm[/url:22nnnxdr]":22nnnxdr]How could we have a discussion about RVS without calling your posts into question?

"I was talking about math, that has nothing to do with the number 7!"[/quote:22nnnxdr]
strawman. "I was talking about math as an entire subject, not imaginary numbers which you seem to focus on"
[/quote:22nnnxdr]

The posts that you made ITT were not imaginary numbers. How can anybody be this dumb.

THEN you vote Manders without commenting on how she's probably just bad/a woman.

Again, if you're town, you are the worst town ever.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:12 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
I wouldn't put behind Yanni just being awful town

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:09 am
by imopen2
Second Vote Count.

Yanni (3)- Ximbad, Mogadishu Jones, PhantomS

Ximbad (2)- Manders, imopen2

Manders (1)- The Guardian

G_R (1) -Yanni

Not Voting: KillJoy, teefo, G_R, Col. Khaddafi, Captain Murphy

With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch
Let me know if there are any mistakes.
I believe you miscounted my vote because the quote function is fucking up.

Also, I'm stoned as fuck right now and can't comprend what you all are saying. I'll say something constructive tomorrow

Ps. Thank you autocorrect! :hifive:

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:45 am
by teefo
I don't even understand why people are voting for sinbad like have either of you actually got a reason or am I just missing something?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:48 am
by teefo
i don't really care about this rvs discussion but at least it is stimulating conversation in an otherwise slow game

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:24 am
by PhantomS
Most of the players in this game aren't posting nearly enough.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:34 am
by ( G_R )
I need to re-read from the beginning. I don't get where this Yanni wagon came from. His defensiveness does raise an eyebrow, but I tend to agree with Col. Khaddafi. In my short experience with the game, people behaving like that have been usually townies playing poorly, and giving away an easy mislynch. Not that his posting after being confronted by PhantomS doesn't look scummy, but I keep that possibility open, for now.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:00 am
by Captain Murphy
Would you be happy to lynch a bad townie phantom?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:01 am
by Shalako
I believe you miscounted my vote because the quote function is fucking up.

Also, I'm stoned as fuck right now and can't comprend what you all are saying. I'll say something constructive tomorrow

Ps. Thank you autocorrect! :hifive:
Due to rule One even if a Vote is possibly a mistake due to Quote Fails it is still counted.

Make sure to Unvote/Vote if this happens.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:28 pm
by Ximbad
I do find the string of imopen2 posts though...
You're missing a verb. What do you mean by this?
unvote: yanni; vote Captain Murphy


Yanni wagon seems too thin to go anywhere.

So far I like what teefo has to say, but he hasn't really brought up anything meaty.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:26 pm
by Yannaria
How could we have a discussion about RVS without calling your posts into question?

"I was talking about math, that has nothing to do with the number 7!"
strawman. "I was talking about math as an entire subject, not imaginary numbers which you seem to focus on"
The posts that you made ITT were not imaginary numbers. How can anybody be this dumb.

THEN you vote Manders
without commenting on how she's probably just bad/a woman.

Again, if you're town, you are the worst town ever.
Wow you totally misunderstood the analogy.

manders isn't bad and what does her being a female have anything to do with anything

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:30 pm
by Yannaria
I do find the string of imopen2 posts though...
You're missing a verb. What do you mean by this?
unvote: yanni; vote Captain Murphy


Yanni wagon seems too thin to go anywhere.

So far I like what teefo has to say, but he hasn't really brought up anything meaty.
god this post bothers the hell out of me

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:03 pm
by PhantomS
Would you be happy to lynch a bad townie phantom?
Lynching a townie is never the goal, and I would not be happy to lynch a townie. Are you asking this because I posted the dilemna bad townie versus scum? Because that's frequently as good as it gets until the chips are down.
Wow you totally misunderstood the analogy.
Jesus Christ. This is the part where you explain it, though I'm certain that you're actually just bad at argument.
manders isn't bad and what does her being a female have anything to do with anything
Hahaha the votes on manders are bad to properly read her you have
to pretend you have a vagina.
It's like you don't even read the thread.
god this post bothers the hell out of me
So. Explain. Why.

Okay guys, you have me convinced well enough for now that I'm not going to win a battle against the argument that "Yanni is just really, realllllllllllllly dumb."

That said, the vote still stands. He has still acted the most scummy of anybody, so I'm going to have to rethink some things before voting anywhere else. I don't think anybody can argue that Yanni's posts have easily been the worst for the town.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:54 pm
by Yannaria
Would you be happy to lynch a bad townie phantom?
Lynching a townie is never the goal, and I would not be happy to lynch a townie. Are you asking this because I posted the dilemna bad townie versus scum? Because that's frequently as good as it gets until the chips are down.
Wow you totally misunderstood the analogy.
Jesus Christ. This is the part where you explain it, though I'm certain that you're actually just bad at argument.
manders isn't bad and what does her being a female have anything to do with anything
Hahaha the votes on manders are bad to properly read her you have to pretend you have a vagina.
It's like you don't even read the thread.
god this post bothers the hell out of me
So. Explain. Why.

Okay guys, you have me convinced well enough for now that I'm not going to win a battle against the argument that "Yanni is just really, realllllllllllllly dumb."

That said, the vote still stands. He has still acted the most scummy of anybody, so I'm going to have to rethink some things before voting anywhere else. I don't think anybody can argue that Yanni's posts have easily been the worst for the town.
I picked imaginary numbers because they're not a solid concept in math, at least to my knowledge, sort of like RVS posts in mafia. get it?


so your reason for manders being down is meta
based on kpaca's post?

Ximbad said the wagon was too thin, it seems that he was just pushing for a mislynch then when he realized that it wasn't going anywhere, he unvoted

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:59 pm
by Yannaria
also wtf, you're like "lol well I guess I can't win because Yanni is full retard but fuck it I'm staying on the wagon"
what?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:05 pm
by PhantomS
so your reason for manders being down is meta based on kpaca's post?
I was pointing out that you didn't acknowledge the existing argument. Never did I lay claim to it. I said that that's why I mentioned the woman thing- because it was already out there.
Ximbad said the wagon was too thin, it seems that he was just pushing for a mislynch then when he realized that it wasn't going anywhere, he unvoted
There is actually something to this. Taking this under consideration.
also wtf, you're like "lol well I guess I can't win because Yanni is full retard but fuck it I'm staying on the wagon"
I think my post was pretty clear about
intending to reread and reconsider which leads I want to follow. No matter what, I don't feel bad about the vote on you but I understand that it's not really worthwhile. No real reason to unvote until I determine a better place for the vote, and a vote for you is better than no vote.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:11 pm
by Yannaria
so your reason for manders being down is meta based on kpaca's post?
I was pointing out that you didn't acknowledge the existing argument. Never did I lay claim to it. I said that that's why I mentioned the woman thing- because it was already out there.
Ximbad said the wagon was too thin, it seems that he was just pushing for a mislynch then when he realized that it wasn't going anywhere, he unvoted
There is actually something to this. Taking this under consideration.
also wtf, you're like "
lol well I guess I can't win because Yanni is full retard but fuck it I'm staying on the wagon"
I think my post was pretty clear about intending to reread and reconsider which leads I want to follow. No matter what, I don't feel bad about the vote on you but I understand that it's not really worthwhile. No real reason to unvote until I determine a better place for the vote, and a vote for you is better than no vote.
I don't see how Kpain's post is an argument. I don't see why manders being a woman has anything to do with her posting about a softclaim and she is certainly not bad at playing mafia.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:13 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
so your reason for manders being down is meta based on kpaca's post?
I was pointing out that you didn't acknowledge the existing argument. Never did I lay claim to it. I said that that's why I mentioned the woman thing- because it was already out there.
Ximbad said the wagon was too thin, it seems that he was just pushing for a mislynch then when he realized that it wasn't going anywhere,
he unvoted
There is actually something to this. Taking this under consideration.
also wtf, you're like "lol well I guess I can't win because Yanni is full retard but fuck it I'm staying on the wagon"
I think my post was pretty clear about intending to reread and reconsider which leads I want to follow. No matter what, I don't feel bad about the vote on you but I understand that it's not really worthwhile. No real reason to unvote until I determine a better place for the vote, and a vote for you is better than no vote.
I don't see how Kpain's post is an argument. I don't see why manders being a woman has anything to do with her posting about a softclaim and she is certainly not bad at playing mafia.
Hhahahahahaha what a guy!

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:17 pm
by imopen2
Ok, I am going to attempt to make a good post.

A couple observations:

Ximbad's comment about the yanni wagon going nowhere definitely strikes me as odd. I agree it seems like he was going for a mislynch and jumped off the bandwagon (to vote for the captain who, since his first post, has seemed much less scummy to me, and who actually defended Ximbad earlier in the page).

It is suprising to me that there are no votes for Jones or PhantomS considering they have been the most aggressive and seemingly scummy people so far. They both went after The Guardian, then both attacked Yanni for something that didn't seem like a big deal (Ximbad agreed), and this is AFTER PhantomS scolded The Guardian for voting Yanni because he was playing off our hatred for him. Maybe that gave PS the idea?

The last thing I found interesting was when PhantomS said, "Lynching a townie is never the goal"

...It is when you are
the scum :sherlock:

I'm going to:

Unvote: Ximbad

because it was an inadvertant vote and I want to give him a chance to explain himself

Vote: PhantomS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:22 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
Being aggressive is scummy?

And Im voting yanni because his only content comes in the form of content he is clearly fabricating as a defense to something. Not a thing he is saying isnt trying to throw up a cloud of dust so he can make his escape. Im sure you may think I'm voting him for sucking in rvs, but thats not true. I'm voting him for being a scum who happens to also suck at rvs.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:33 pm
by PhantomS
...and this is AFTER PhantomS scolded The Guardian for voting Yanni because he was playing off our hatred for him. Maybe that gave PS the idea?
Because I haven't substantiated my vote time and again. :rolleyes2:

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:50 pm
by imopen2
tag-team...interesting :sherlock:


It would be nice to hear from some of the less active people.

I'm sticking with my PhantomS read for now. I'm less sure about KP because he tends to be a somewhat agressive person in general on this forum and I'm not sure whether that behavior is typical of scum in mafia. It just rubs me the wrong way

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:51 pm
by imopen2
rubs me the wrong way in this game I should say.

me and kpaca are :hifive: in the chat

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:53 pm
by PhantomS
tag-team...interesting :sherlock:


It would be nice to hear from some of the less active people.

I'm sticking with my PhantomS read for now. I'm less sure about KP because he tends to be a somewhat agressive person in general on this forum and I'm not sure whether that behavior is typical of scum in mafia. It just rubs me the wrong way
You could at least try to be consistent in your judgment. Whether to meta or not is a personal thing, but if you're going to meta that kpaca is aggressive how are you NOT going to meta that I am?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:56 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
Even a cursory glance at any mafia game I played in on mtgs will undoubtably contain similiar barbed one line posts to my posts in this game.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:02 pm
by ( G_R )
I don't think that being aggressive is scummy, especially on day 1. On the contrary, I assume mafia will try to start the game with a low profile. Sure, experienced players may tap on that, but in that case I will say it's a null tell.

On the other hand, that "tag-team" accusation, to call it that, is making my "spider-sense" tingle.

Vote: imopen2

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:08 pm
by The Dark Guardian
To confirm what he said: Jones's aggressive play style is nothing new from salvation mafia, which is why he isn't ringing any bells.

More votes on Manders. She may not have played in a while, but that just seems like such poor play from town to go...Soft claim...what should we soft claim?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:09 pm
by The Dark Guardian
Also, is there any way to change the skins? I am having such a hard time seeing the quotes, from what the actual post is...

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:11 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
To confirm what he said: Jones's aggressive play style is nothing new from salvation mafia, which is why he isn't ringing any bells.

More votes on Manders. She may not have played in a while, but that just seems like such poor play from town to go...Soft claim...what should we soft claim?
It blows my mind anyone would vote manders over yanni.

Furthermore "more votes on manders ploxkthnksbai" is a terrible wagon push imo.