I'm stoked for the nonbasic Manabarbs. Now that is a cool card. Good luck to everyone at FNM!
Does anyone else think Modern Masters is going to be one of Wizards few great successes?
My post has nothing to do with non-competitive players. I don't mind or really care what they do; theyre playing to have fun and that's fine. There is a very real problem though when players conolain about a lack of competitiveness and yet they're unwilling to play a tier 1 deck; or they whine that theyre preferred archetype isn't currently the best ~ you don't see that sort of entitled behaviour in other games; at least not nearly to the same extent.
To be fair, your post said "in magic," not "in competitive magic." I, for one, was
offended until you clarified. Because the flavor and social nature of the game is why I play Magic (and why I don't play MODO).
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:58 am
by photodyer
golgari control is very, very difficult to beat
Are you referring to the deck that took 6th last weekend at Nashville? Messenger, Desecration Demon, Tusk and removal?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:08 am
by Jack
Status update:
You guys & Futurama > term papers. This is a problem.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:13 am
by photodyer
Status update:
You guys & Futurama > term papers. This is a problem.
Turn back, oh man; foreswear thy foolish ways!
Yeah, we're like any great catastrophe...you want to look away but can't!
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:22 am
by zemanjaski
I'm stoked for the nonbasic Manabarbs. Now that is a cool card. Good luck to everyone at FNM!
Does anyone else think Modern Masters is going to be one of Wizards few great successes?
My post has nothing to do with non-competitive players. I don't mind or really care what they do; theyre playing to have fun and that's fine. There is a very real problem though when players conolain about a lack of competitiveness and yet they're unwilling to play a tier 1 deck; or they whine that theyre preferred archetype isn't currently the best ~ you don't see that sort of entitled behaviour in other games; at least
not nearly to the same extent.
To be fair, your post said "in magic," not "in competitive magic." I, for one, was offended until you clarified. Because the flavor and social nature of the game is why I play Magic (and why I don't play MODO).
I would have hoped that you guys know me well enough by now to know better, but OK.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:25 am
by Link
golgari control is very, very difficult to beat
Are you referring to the deck that took 6th last weekend at Nashville? Messenger, Desecration Demon, Tusk and removal?
its scarier thn jund with victim of nights, better card draw, more reliable board wipes...
got mana screwed g2 though, even so it just has so much.. definitely will need threatens again if it gets popular.
still managed to take 1st though, guess he played some nonaggro after me
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:35 am
by zemanjaski
Yeah, I have played quite a bit of the GB control, it is very solid. Absolutely destroys the other midrange decks, but can be a little soft to dedicated control (you have a lot of issues if you cannot land an early PW or Underworld Connections).
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:38 am
by Helios
I would have hoped that you guys know me well enough by now to know better, but OK.
Your generally blunt nature makes it hard to tell on occasion. We only assume you're being a prick because we know that you're better than we are Consider it a compliment, homage to your prodigious skills.
And homage to redthirst's dick, of course.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:42 am
by Kazekirimaru
golgari control is very, very difficult to beat
Are you referring to the deck that took 6th last weekend at Nashville? Messenger, Desecration Demon, Tusk and removal?
its scarier thn jund with victim of nights, better card draw, more reliable board wipes...
got mana screwed g2 though, even so it just has so much.. definitely will need threatens again if it gets popular.
still managed to take 1st
though, guess he played some nonaggro after me
Decklist(or link) pretty please? My curiosity is piqued.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:44 am
by Kazekirimaru
Update on the home situation. Drug-addict female? Gone without a trace. Though, not from my doing. She left abruptly and took what few things she had and left her key upon the kitchen table. Apparently she found out the location of her mother and left to find her. Suits me fine.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:45 am
by Helios
Kaze, have you ever had "Red Tea" (called Rooibos)?
Whoawhoawhoa. I missed something here.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:47 am
by Kazekirimaru
Kaze, have you ever had "Red Tea" (called Rooibos)?
Whoawhoawhoa. I missed something here.
Indeed. We have several Rooibos teas at our shop. Though none of them are straight.
Ah, yeah, I've had a bit of a thorn in my side for a few months. She's gone now, all is well.
Catch up, if you like.
So, for the last four months or so, there's been this girl who has lived with my wife and I. Friend of a friend of my wife type deal. She was homeless and had no place to go(no family who liked her - in hindsight, that should have been a huge red flag) so I decided to take her in. She promised she&#
39;d be an awesome housemate and would get a job, clean, pay rent, et cetera. Well, long story short, she's an alcoholic drug addict and doesn't even have the capacity to put pants on in the afternoon let alone hold a job. I have no clue where she gets the money for all her weed and booze, but she often leaves with strange men, so I think I can piece together that puzzle. Oh, and she has a two-year-old daughter that she has no custody of. I've given her several chances for redemption and she constantly lets me down. I despise her yet pity her greatly as she obviously has been through a lot of shit in her life, and I think the latter is what has kept me from throwing her out until now. But now, I'm married. I want my house to be my own again. I want to have a home environment that's safe to bring my kin into if I chose to have children anytime soon. I want to look in the fridge and have it actually have food in it for once, dammit. Not to mention I'm getting spread real thin trying to
support a human who does absolutely nothing. I can't take this anymore. But, if I throw her out, she'll be on the streets. I don't know if I can do that. My wife is passive as ever, of course, and has left dealing with her all up to me.
What do you guys think I should do? Throw her out? How would I even go about that?
And before any of you sardonic asshats asks: no, she isn't hot.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:51 am
by Helios
Ya know what you shouldn't have to do when you buy a $1400 laptop? Fix shit. I expect everything to work, dammit.
Kaze, have you ever had "Red Tea" (called Rooibos)?
Whoawhoawhoa. I missed something here.
Indeed. We have several Rooibos teas at our shop. Though none of them are straight.
Ah, yeah, I've had a bit of a thorn in my side for a few months. She's gone now, all is well.
Went back and read some. Glad that problem fixed
itself
I had a straight Rooibos tonight, and was pleasantly surprised. It smells like dirt, but has a great taste. Don't think I brewed it for long enough though, only did 2 minutes or so.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:53 am
by zemanjaski
Anyone have a semi-decent BW tokens deck list?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:55 am
by Kazekirimaru
Ya know what you shouldn't have to do when you buy a $1400 laptop? Fix shit. I expect everything to work, dammit.
Kaze, have you ever had "Red Tea" (called Rooibos)?
Whoawhoawhoa. I missed something here.
Indeed. We have several Rooibos teas at our shop. Though none of them are straight.
Ah, yeah, I've had a bit of a thorn in my side for a few months. She's gone now, all is well.
Went back and read some. Glad that problem fixed itself
I had a straight Rooibos tonight, and was pleasantly surprised. It smells like dirt, but has a great taste. Don't think I brewed it for long enough though, only did 2 minutes or so.
Thanks, me too.
Straight Rooibos is treated the same as Black tea, I do believe. Three minutes at 195. May I ask where you got the tea? I've been looking for straight Rooibos.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:56 am
by Kazekirimaru
Anyone have a semi-decent BW tokens deck list?
Standard or Modern? Melissa DeTora took a snazzy BW tokens list to Gran Prix San Diego recently.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:04 am
by Kazekirimaru
I highly recommend The Great Gatsby, by the way, if anyone is looking to head to the cinema soon. Took the lady instead of going to FNM tonight.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:23 am
by zemanjaski
For standard. I don't like BW tokens in modern at all.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:33 am
by lorddax
My Non FNM night was....well, pretty damn good. Instead of going to the movies I proposed a different activity for straight 2 hrs. Who knew in laws in the next room was such an aphrodisiac? /redthirstgrin
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:40 am
by Helios
Straight Rooibos is treated the same as Black tea, I do believe. Three minutes at 195. May I ask where you got the tea? I've been looking for straight Rooibos.
Kroger carries it bagged in the organic section; the brand is called Numi, I think. Organic, straight Rooibos. I don't know where to get it loose-leaf; I like to keep a variety of bagged teas around for when I have guests or need to make tea in a hurry:) Loose-leaf is for special occasions, when I have time to enjoy it.
2nd Gatsby, I enjoyed it. Well made movie, though I imagine reading the book would make it much better.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:46 am
by Kazekirimaru
Straight Rooibos is treated the same as Black tea, I do believe. Three minutes at 195. May I ask where you got the tea? I've been looking for straight Rooibos.
Kroger carries it bagged in the organic section; the brand is called Numi, I think. Organic, straight Rooibos. I don't know where to get it loose-leaf; I like to keep a variety of bagged teas around for when I have guests or need to make tea in a hurry:) Loose-leaf is for special occasions, when I have time to enjoy it.
2nd Gatsby, I enjoyed it. Well made movie, though I imagine reading the book would make it much
better.
Ah, there's a Kroger in the city where I work. Most appreciated.
Yeah, the book is fantastic. The movie actually did a fantastic job of keeping true to story. Nothing changed; nothing left out but a few small details.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:55 am
by zemanjaski
Back to desiging Grixis Control decks featuring Master of Cruelties, aka Cruel Control 2.0
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:24 am
by zemanjaski
Interesting spoiled cards from M14:
- ogre battledriver
- molten birth
- young pyromancer
Maybe some sort of battalion/token red deck? If you ever get to untap with battledriver, you're probably winning. Young Pyromancer seems pretty interesting, in either an aggro, aggro-control shell.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:42 am
by zemanjaski
MJ just won a draft with a deck including Azorius Elocutors (3 wins from counters) and Master of Cruelties (2 wins from ability into removal). Amazing
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:37 am
by Kazekirimaru
I ponder why they made "Elvish Mystic" instead of reprinting Llanowar Elves in M14.
Be aware: it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the discussion.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:21 am
by Platypus
I ponder why they made "Elvish Mystic" instead of reprinting Llanowar Elves in M14.
They don't like the plural "Elves" in the name.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:38 am
by Platypus
hey Platypus, how'd you like the Loyalists in the side? I played your/Fate's list on Cockatrice a bit and will probably buy the cards soon, but Fate made a very strong argument that Ash Zealot was a very good SB card, more so than Loyalist, so that was all that I tested.
I had a reply done for the Gruul Sligh thread, but then the site stopped working.
I never sided in the Loyalists, since I didn't face any deck where they'd made any difference. I would probably have sided in Ash Zealots though, which means that they'd been a better choice yesterday. There were a few token-heavy decks around where the Loyalists would have made a difference, but I didn't face them. But even against them I think Pyreheart Wolves and Firefist Strikers would have
been enough to push damage through. So yeah, Ash Zealots in the SB is probably the better choice.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:27 am
by RedNihilist
So, in a matter of a couple of hours I'm going to try my luck at the Game Day.
I've took a bath, I'm reading Hesse, I've picked up my guitar after months, I'm basically doing EVERY THING I CAN in order to forget MtG before the tournament.
I've had similar experiences in the past, but for bigger, magic-unrelated events, and I find quite funny to find myself so fed up on a 15 people tournament in a little city like mine.
Aside from the fact that I'm regretting the younger days when I could REALLY prepare for an event like this (no girlfriend, no job), I was wondering if anybody else here feels the same tension before tournaments, and how you usually "play around it".
I ponder why they made "Elvish Mystic" instead of reprinting Llanowar Elves in M14.
More one drop elves for modern and legacy is always good.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:38 pm
by windstrider
Update on the home situation. Drug-addict female? Gone without a trace. Though, not from my doing. She left abruptly and took what few things she had and left her key upon the kitchen table. Apparently she found out the location of her mother and left to find her. Suits me fine.
That is welcome news, my friend. Change the locks anyway.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:52 pm
by Kazekirimaru
More one drop elves for modern and legacy is always good.
That is quite true.
That is welcome news, my friend. Change the locks anyway.
Oh, trust me, I am.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:56 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Progenitus and Sarkhan Vol are spoiled for MM now. As are Kiki and Vendilion Clique. And all the Swords of X and Y. Drafting this set is going to be godly.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:37 pm
by Calamity
Yeah I'm real pumped for drafting MM. My store is getting 40 boxes, selling 15 (for 170 a piece) and drafting the rest with MM ad prize support.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:35 pm
by photodyer
Update on the home situation. Drug-addict female? Gone without a trace. Though, not from my doing. She left abruptly and took what few things she had and left her key upon the kitchen table. Apparently she found out the location of her mother and left to find her. Suits me fine.
That is welcome news, my friend. Change the locks anyway.
+1 here! Glad everything settled out, Kaze.
@zeman - My great nephew runs BW tokens with all the expected token generators and anthem, VNH, Sorin,
Bloodline Keeper, Vampire Interloper and lots of removal. It's not likely truly competitive, but the 9-year-old regularly snatches wins with it. If you want me to get the list, say so.
Brewing thought: Counter-burn with Ral Zarek, Electromancer, Gutter Snipe, Young Pyromancer, Phoenix? Pre-rotation there would be Snapcaster but all the garbage lifegain, post-rotation we lose both the pro and the cons (unless there is another broken lifegain engine). Burning Earth also looks interesting, though more so in mono-red burn. Even with new burn in M14, I don't think it's likely enough to overcome lifegain, but perhaps in the new block.
Ordered a playset of Master of Cruelties the other day because I know there has to be some fun to be had with it.
18 INSTANTS and
SORCERIES
4 Sign in Blood
3 Tragic Slip
3 Mutilate
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Cremate
2 Victim of Night
1 Putrefy
4 OTHER SPELLS
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Garruk Relentless
SIDEBOARD
3 Duress
3 Appetite for Brains
2 Vraska the Unseen
2 Golgari Charm
2 Underworld Connections
2 Ground Seal
1 Mutilate[/deck]
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:38 pm
by photodyer
Yeah I'm real pumped for drafting MM. My store is getting 40 boxes, selling 15 (for 170 a piece) and drafting the rest with MM ad prize support.
$170?!? Man, if you can get a box for that I will take it off your hands happily...
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:41 pm
by Calamity
Yeah I'm real pumped for drafting MM. My store is getting 40 boxes, selling 15 (for 170 a piece) and drafting the rest with MM ad prize support.
$170?!? Man, if you can get a box for that I will take it off your hands happily...
They're taking names of store members and putting them in a hat to see who gets to buy them. Its about ad fair as you can make it, especially since they're drafting the rest
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:55 pm
by TubeHunter
I don't know how much MM our store is getting, but i'm drafting at least once
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:15 pm
by Khaospawn
I think I'm the only one not terribly excited for MM. I already own everything they've spoiled, except for Tarmagoyf (and even then, I don't plan on using any.....cuz I hate winning. ).
Weirdly enough, I do like the new Manabarbs. I've always been a fan of the original, and with KDW, I don't exactly tap the Crucibles for enough mana to make the enchantment work against me....
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:24 pm
by Alex
I think I'm the only one not terribly excited for MM. I already own everything they've spoiled, except for Tarmagoyf (and even then, I don't plan on using any.....cuz I hate winning. ).
Weirdly enough, I do like the new Manabarbs. I've always been a fan of the original, and with KDW, I don't exactly tap the Crucibles for enough mana to make the enchantment work against me....
Nah, I don't care about MM either. I'm going to be in Vegas, but mostly because I want to take part in the likely once-in-a-lifetime Grand Prix experience that it promises to be. (It also helps that my friend is getting married the following weekend, so yeah.) The cards are very much
secondary, because like you, I have my modern staples already for the most part. I might pick up a 4th Vendillion Clique while I'm there, but other than that, I'm probably going to be flipping my MM spoils to try and get some Snapcasters before they skyrocket in price in the coming months. I'm currently holding 18 and I'd like to make it an even 30. If they're at like $20 now, I can imagine that this time next year they'll be around $50, so I'll probably sell them at that point.
Consider it a compliment, homage to your prodigious skills. 
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