[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[dpaine88]

All I need to to is read this thread once every few days and know to wait until I am 100% absolutely positive I want to get married haha

Bitches be crazy

[Kazekirimaru]

Well, I am a married man now. The wedding had its share of ups and downs. I was sick, it rained, it was cold and windy, we forgot something and had to run back, we started 15 minutes late, one bridesmaid's stupid younger sister knocked over our sand for the sand ceremony, and other such things. Could have gone worse, though. Pictures to come eventually. I'm in bed right now since I barely made it through without passing out. Think I might sleep a while...

[lorddax]

@Kaze You survived round 1! Grats man! I'm sure I speak for many of us when I say we will always be around to dole out advice and stories, whether its any good or terrifying is totally up in the air

[lorddax]

I'll just leave this here after laughing my ass off when a blazing ginger friend of mine posted this on FB and how applicable it is here.

[hamfactorial]

Congratulations Kaze! Where's the honeymoon?

[Valdarith]

Here you go, Z.

[deck]
3 snapcaster mage

4 feeling of dread
4 desperate ravings
4 lingering souls
4 burning vengeance
4 forbidden alchemy
4 supreme verdict
2 counterflux
2 syncopate
1 dissipate
1 izzet charm
1 sever the bloodline
1 slaughter games

4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Sacred Foundry
2 Watery Grave
1 Steam Vents
2 Blood Crypt
4 Glacial Fortress
2 Sulfur Falls
2 Isolated Chapel
2 Plains
1 Island
1 Mountain
[/deck]

[zemanjaski]

I think I'll finish coming down in time for Mothers Day. These Hallmark days are stupid anyway.

Also -



Even better if you actually know what she is saying.

[Kazekirimaru]

Thanks, guys! The honeymoon shall be in a few weeks, in Niagara Falls. ^^

[LP, of the Fires]

Burning Vengeance is probably viable if you have a way of not getting owned by mono-red. For that reason, I think you need some number of ultimate price in the deck or other hard removal. [card]Far//Away[/card] is probably amazing as well. The biggest problem with grixis in standard right now is no reasonable lifegain. [card]Sorin's Thirst[/card] or Tendrils of corruption would go a long way.

Speaking of mono-red, played this list at FNM last night to 3-1:

[deck]Main:

4 Stromkirk Noble
4 Rakdos Cackler
2 Stonewright
4 Ash Zealout
2 Lightning Mauler
4 Pyreheart Wolf
4 Hellrider
2 Zealous Conscripts
2 Thundermaw Hellkite

2 Pillar of Flame
2 Mizzium Mortars
4 Searing Spear

23 Mountains
1 Hellion Crucible

Sideboard:
3 Hound of Griselbrand
3 Boros Reckoner
1 Mizzium Mortars
2 Flames of the Firebrand
n3 Volcanic Strength
3 Traitrous Blood[/deck]

My one loss was to junk midrange in round 3. Game one, I mulled to THREE, and got him to six life, needing to topdeck a land for Thundermaw Hellkite which would have been lethal along with my hellrider. Game 2, I'm ashamed of myself because I kept 6 lands and Thundermaw after being traumatized from my mull to 6. I figured "I'll get there, I already have my top end."

Round 1 vs. Bant Auras. Game one, I have a good start, but turn 4, his stalker swings with Unflinching courage, Etheral Armor, Spectral flight, and Rancor. Games 2 and 3, I pillared all his guys while beating down with stromkirks. Game 3, he kept the cavern, Avacyn's Pilgrim hand...not good against the red deck with 10 removal spells.

Round 2, played against a Jund player who beat me last week. Game 1, I keep ash zealot, two mountains, spear I think, and triple hellrider. Before I find my 4th land, I become acquainted with Sire of Insanity. Games 2 and 3, he kept shaky hands and
was punished for it. We discussed the matches afterwards and he was amazed at how well I was able to read his hands. Apparently I can see people doing math and follow along with there plays.

Round 4, I play against Bant something. I'm assuming Prime Speaker. Game 1, he's stuck on land drops. Game two, I attack him to...16 with a board of 2 guys+hound of griselbrand with stromkirk noble and stonewright in hand. I decide to play stromkirk to get him to wrath. He falls for it. Next turn, stonewright, bound to hound, beat for 12? Overall, was very happy with the deck. It's not an optimal list because of card availability and such, but close enough is surely good enough right?

[lorddax]

Anyone online want to mess around on MTGO or Cockatrice? Or play some Monaco?

[zemanjaski]

You have not lived until you have had 4 burning vengeance in play.

[zemanjaski]

[LP, of the Fires]

I think at the States I played in 2 years ago, the most I ever had was 3. It was still more then enough for your opponents to lose all hope.

Also, after watching some GP Portland coverage, I decided to throw together Shuuhei's tribal geist deck and have been immensely satisfied. Swing with geist, might of alara and boros charm my angel. Take 18?

[zemanjaski]

Link me good sir.

[zemanjaski]

[deck]
4 Diregraf Ghoul
4 Dreg Mangler
4 Geralf's Messenger
4 Gravecrawler
4 Lotleth Troll
4 Rakdos Cackler
2 Skirsdag High Priest

2 Abrupt Decay
2 Putrefy
3 Rancor
1 Sever the Bloodline
2 Sign in Blood
2 Tragic Slip

4 Golgari Guildgate
4 Overgrown Tomb
10 Swamp
4 Woodland Cemetery

Sideboard
2 Appetite for Brains
4 Cremate
2 Duress
1 Sever the Bloodline
2 Skirsdag High Priest
2 Underworld Connections
2 Victim of Night[/deck]

Thoughts?

[Jack]

Thoughts?

I miss Doom Blade


But, yeah, the list seems like one of the more promising b/g zombies lists. Are you sure you need 22 land, though? And do we have anything better than cackler? Sideboard seems really good, considering you already have a plan against aggro with so much mb removal.

[Jack]

Also, might be kinda late, but I'd like to thank Windstrider for re-doing the Dos Rakis primer. It got me to load a list up onto Cockatrice and test it out a bit, and I loved it! My friend still has a B/r zombies deck from December (he hasn't been able to play much at all), and I'll see if I could borrow some of his lands and Aristocrats. Still need Thundermaws, though. Without them, would you suggest replacing them with Conscripts or simply playing a version with a lower curve?

[zemanjaski]

8 three drops I want to cast on curve; what's better than 2 power guy 9-12? It's super important to curve out and Cackler maximises your nut draws while taking pressure off needing G in your opener. I'm not sure I understand your questions at I'm afraid - what specifically would you like addressed?

[Jack]

8 three drops I want to cast on curve; what's better than 2 power guy 9-12? I'm not sure I understand your questions at all I'm afraid.

I never said I knew what the hell I was talking about

[Jack]

I was thinking that the cackler slot could possibly be changed for a 4-drop, changing the deck's principles very much. If the deck wants a nut draw more than a late game, then I guess it works. However, I really don't know what I'm talking about here, since I haven't actually seen someone play this deck since 2012.

[zemanjaski]

Garruk Relentless would be pretty good out of the board I guess?

[windstrider]

@kaze – Congratulations! You survived it. She survived it. That's the important part.

@freedom – Thanks! A lot of the ideas for the new list came from redthirst. We kinda hashed it out after that. I'm hoping to keep the Primer updated as the card choices adapt to the metagame.

As for no Thundermaws, the Conscripts doesn't have the raw power of the 'maws, but they do have flexibility. I had one in my list prior to getting a third 'maw, and it worked out fairly well. You could also try Exava in that slot to lower the curve a bit. Maybe two Exavas and a Conscripts? Try it out.

[Kazekirimaru]

[deck]
4 Diregraf Ghoul
4 Dreg Mangler
4 Geralf's Messenger
4 Gravecrawler
4 Lotleth Troll
4 Rakdos Cackler
2 Skirsdag High Priest

2 Abrupt Decay
2 Putrefy
3 Rancor
1 Sever the Bloodline
2 Sign in Blood
2 Tragic Slip

4 Golgari Guildgate
4 Overgrown Tomb
10 Swamp
4 Woodland Cemetery

Sideboard
2 Appetite for Brains
4 Cremate
2 Duress
1 Sever the Bloodline
2 Skirsdag High Priest
2 Underworld Connections
2 Victim of Night[/deck]

Thoughts?

Is that really enough green mana sources? Eight that tap for green with fifteen cards that require it? I remember playing Soul Sisters with a full set of Shrines/Chapels just for Zealous Persecution and Vault triggers, and I still[/i:
1g7p4npb] had mana issues. Perhaps I'm unlucky. Have you tested this extensively?

[Kazekirimaru]

Also, good morning! Hope everyone is doing well.

I apparently need to step up my game as far as diet/exercise are concerned. I'm back up to 190. Dx

[Jack]

Is that really enough green mana sources? Eight that tap for green with fifteen cards that require it? I remember playing Soul Sisters with a full set of Shrines/Chapels just for Zealous Persecution and Vault triggers, and I still had mana issues. Perhaps I'm unlucky. Have you tested this extensively?

There's 12 green sources in there; more than half the mana base.
Does the deck have dedicated sideboard plans? If not, it probably wouldn't hurt to have DRS in the board.

[Kazekirimaru]

Is that really enough green mana sources? Eight that tap for green with fifteen cards that require it? I remember playing Soul Sisters with a full set of Shrines/Chapels just for Zealous Persecution and Vault triggers, and I still had mana issues. Perhaps I'm unlucky. Have you tested this extensively?

There's 12 green sources in there; more than half the mana base.
Does the deck have dedicated sideboard plans? If not, it probably wouldn't hurt to have DRS in the board.

Oh, don't mind me, I can't count.
^^

[Link]

no one else is a terrible son today?

[Khaospawn]

no one else is a terrible son today?

I haven't spoken to my mother in over 4 years. And I don't plan to anytime soon.

On the other hand, I paid for my girl to get her nails done and I cooked her French Toast and eggs this morning. She's a good mom, and I love her kids. I wish they were really mine.

[Alex]

no one else is a terrible son today?

Not me. I purchased my mother diabetes, (About $100 worth of chocolate and chocolate paraphernalia) and we went and saw The Great Gatsby.

Good times were had by all.

[TubeHunter]

Nah, flowers and eating, then we went to see IRON MAN 3: A FILM FOR MOTHERS.

[windstrider]

no one else is a terrible son today?

Since I'm 500 miles away, I sent my mom a pretty Mother's Day bouquet with a nice vase and a box of chocolates.

[Kazekirimaru]

I wanted to take my mother to a movie today, but she got called in to work. =(

[zemanjaski]

Haha Alex, I also got my mum Grrat Gatsby tickets ^^ classy gentlemen we are.

[zemanjaski]

[Lightning_Dolt]

no one else is a terrible son today?

I didn't put "Happy Mother's Day!" in my facebook status, and mocked those who did if that's what you mean.

[Sasky]

Spent the day with my mom, treating her to lunch and dinner at expensive restaurants.

[LP, of the Fires]

Called my grandmother. That's about it. I guess I'll throw a facebook shoutout to my actual mom to see if she surfaces from the void.

Also, Finkel top 16s with UR Storm. The man will not quit on that deck.

[zemanjaski]

That top 16 is SO STACKED. Awesome!

[rcwraspy]

enjoying the GP Portland Modern stream. Trying to learn the format!

[zemanjaski]

If they put up a top 16 lists link while you're watching, do me a solid and repost here to save me hunting later