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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:51 pm
by zemanjaski
As long as you don't say Grim Lavamancer sucks we're cool.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:51 pm
by zemanjaski
How did the gutter alt names come about? How did madding become K8?

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:51 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Deathrite Shaman is strictly better.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:53 pm
by Kaitscralt
I'm just fucking with you. There was an article like yours touting Master of Waves and the first successful Devotion shell. People sort of dismissed it as brags about a homebrew, then the pros cleaned the deck up and it won a Pro Tour.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:54 pm
by Kaitscralt
How did the gutter alt names come about? How did madding become K8?
Kaitscralt is my gamer handle, and after Madding kept getting banned for corrupt reasons I decided to shed my MTGS skin and begin using a new name.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:54 pm
by iamabadman
How did the gutter alt names come about? How did madding become K8?

its magic bitch, we aint gotta explain shit

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:56 pm
by Kaitscralt
How did the gutter alt names come about? How did madding become K8?

its magic mage, bitch, we wanted to be like magic mage

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:57 pm
by iamabadman
Totally got legit pokerus
been there, done that, two days ago

yea but is it...YOUR MEWTWOOOOO?
mewtwo has aids

feline aids

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:58 pm
by Kaitscralt
and now mega aids

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:00 am
by Col. Khaddafi
Thank you.

Legit question - likes / dislikes? I'm still a pretty green writer.
Pretty sure the CFB guys will give you valuable feedback. Anyway you're still finding your style, you'll probably get looser at writing these as time goes by

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:05 am
by rezombad
Thank you.

Legit question - likes / dislikes? I'm still a pretty green writer.
Pretty sure the CFB guys will give you valuable feedback. Don't listen to these hacks.
:fixed:

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:12 am
by Col. Khaddafi
How did the gutter alt names come about? How did madding become K8?
before you ask, I watched in awe when Khaddafi made that inspiring speech in his rubbled palace telling the whole youth of his country had been collectively drugged by Al-Qaeda, and that the UN sanctions were invalid.

At that point, iridium was already engineering the Final Solution for the Gutter, so I just put the Khaddafi Avvy in my ( N_S ) account and changed my CT to "Your sanctions are invalid" and started a rampage of CI articles discussing moral bankruptcy and detailing why the iridium sanctions were invalid. Then in the early summer I had to do a work-trip to Burkina-Faso just the other side of the Sahara. That country has historically always been a huge
supporter of Khaddafi, and it turned out that I was strolling on Khaddafi avenue in a bus when the radio announced that Khaddafi had been shot dead (I posted about it in the Auschwitz Gutter). I was then banned a few days after iirc.

A little more than a year later, Lybia is a big mess with militias rampaging all over the country. On the internet, iridium is continuously haunted by the ghost of Khaddafi past and I've been told by reliable sources that the amount of gimmickry, Internet raids, and general shitting and trolling on the site has increased significantly.

What this means in essence is that I take much pride in my born-again Internet persona in a way similar to what Kait described.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:13 am
by Col. Khaddafi
Thank you.

Legit question - likes / dislikes? I'm still a pretty green writer.
Pretty sure the CFB guys will give you valuable feedback. Don't listen to these hacks.
:fixed:
this too

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:15 am
by Col. Khaddafi
in case this is not apparent, the SCUMBAG hovering title is a nice addition thanks to the valued contribution of former MTGS moderator Arcadic

props to ( G_R ) for all his avatar contributions

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:16 am
by rezombad
I think there was something about internet terrorism in there as well.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:20 am
by Col. Khaddafi
It came in waves

First it was cowards and scumbags, then it was internet terrorists. Curiously it was all the doings of Arcadic.

The day we will monetize this dump, the first line of order will be to hire an Internet historian and provide him with all our dossiers so he can write a decent wiki with all the relevant links (including to the internet archive who actually keeps many threads that iridium has frantically tried to erase from Internet memory).

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:21 am
by Col. Khaddafi
We will need a full Magic Mage wiki too (someone said she recently claimed to have a child?)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:37 am
by zemanjaski
This stuff is incredibly interesting, I look forward to reading it. I was broadly oblivious to all the history when coming here.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:03 am
by iamabadman
the best was when arcadia was asked to apologize, basically said 'yea im not sorry' and that was accepted by the mods

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:10 am
by rezombad
I imagine a battered, scorched, leather-bound tome. Caked with soot, brushing the cover with your hand reveals, 'The Gutter' debossed in gold leaf.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:15 am
by Kazekirimaru
I must wonder who contacted whom to have FOS come over yonder.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:23 am
by Thrillho
i wanted a less anime name than kijin and already made THRILLHO my middle name on facebook and thrillho was banned on mtgs.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:23 am
by Thrillho
THRILLHO is my dj name.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:24 am
by rezombad
Hey guys,
I'm contacting you because I'm seeing a huge problem with your clan. In the last few days you've been dogpiling on a user, now you're posting negatively and going after mods. This has to stop. Clans is a relaxed place and we don't want battles in there (especially external battles). Right now, we are considering closing the clan down for a while(kind of like a clan Suspension), but I decided it was best to talk to you before acting.
We never closed down a clan in this way, but we're willing to do it if your attitude doesn't change. What happens in other parts of the site is a seperate matter that I'm not here do discuss right now, but bringing anything like that into clans is not tolerated and I want to be sure that everyone undestands that.
What are you actually trying to accomplish & want to be able to do with your clan?
Do you see yourselves
being able to conform with the clan rules?
-Votan

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:24 am
by Thrillho
pray for me as i am about to shiny breed for lucario as soon as i can hatch a perfect mother which shouldn;t be long with a 4-perfect mother and 5-perfect father

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:24 am
by Thrillho
with a 0-perfect japan zigzagoon.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:30 am
by Col. Khaddafi
I guess the gutter-related details are probably not interesting since we are basically nobodies in the grand scheme of things.

I think where the story becomes juicy and a good showcase of some traits of human nature it is the specific part about the sale to curse, how it gave a great deal of the staff an inflated sense of importance (although they are a bunch of nobodies in the grand scheme of things, just as the gutter), how some people got so delusional and (again with an inflated sense of self importance) that they equated leaks about some supa secret internet website sale to "internet terrorism", and basically how sleazily everyone behaved (iridium and Curse reps alike) lying like there was no tomorrow and then getting buttmad over leaks of mod lounge posts that proved they were lying. At the end we are talking about people who are not even paid for doing their jobs getting so self-righteous and delusional
that they will not falter at lying or deceiving in order to enforce the agenda their new owners wanted applied (including driving out people they felt hurt the PG-13 status of the site like the Gutter, FoS and others), just to keep their internet magical cards website moderator/admin tag.

Also the assassinations of character were quite hilarious. In the banned thread it states I've been banned for taking "malicious actions against the website" (plus staff calling me a scumbag in an open thread where I could not even defend myself on the grounds of being banned), the malicious actions having been announcing on a private thread (the Gutter) that the site was going to be sold to Curse. Since people made it so much of a point to label me as an internet terrorist scumbag, I ended up reclaiming the label :lol:

I think Thrillho put it eloquently somewhere over here in the past when he said something the likes of &
quot;How much power-hungry can you be on a magic cards internet forum?" someone can probably do a search and dig it out.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:33 am
by zemanjaski
Thanks for the info. I find it all fascinating.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:37 am
by Col. Khaddafi
Hey guys,
I'm contacting you because I'm seeing a huge problem with your clan. In the last few days you've been dogpiling on a user, now you're posting negatively and going after mods. This has to stop. Clans is a relaxed place and we don't want battles in there (especially external battles). Right now, we are considering closing the clan down for a while(kind of like a clan Suspension), but I decided it was best to talk to you before acting.
We never closed down a clan in this way, but we're willing to do it if your attitude doesn't change. What happens in other parts of the site is a seperate matter that I'm not here do discuss right now, but bringing anything like that into clans is not tolerated and I
want to be sure that everyone undestands that.
What are you actually trying to accomplish & want to be able to do with your clan?
Do you see yourselves being able to conform with the clan rules?
-Votan
You misspelled Voltan

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:42 am
by Col. Khaddafi
Also tell that clan they can move here and dogpile on whoever they want specially if they are iridium XD

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:53 am
by Kazekirimaru
That sounds almost exactly like our warning

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:55 am
by DroppinSuga
Someone needs to get Yomako over here.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:09 am
by Second Harkius
Thanks for the info. I find it all fascinating.
I went from a mod who hunted gimmicks of banned members to a guy giving my gimmicks out to banned members. :teach:

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:11 am
by Second Harkius
Actually, all of the modded Gutter members (N_S, Madding, G_R, Kijin, myself) had a pretty decent rapport with the userbase and worked to improve our individual subforums quite a bit before we quit / were forced out.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:14 am
by Second Harkius
There were other casualties: Manders got fired after publicly posting harassing PMs from Rianalnn in the Gloves thread, Pendulum quit when the staff started getting less and less transparent, Viricide quit when the Lapdog was made admin, etc.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:17 am
by iamabadman
she should of pissed up that rope then :B

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:18 am
by DroppinSuga
Manders should have cried discrimination.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:18 am
by hamfactorial
What does Iridium mean? I see it referenced a lot.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:19 am
by Second Harkius
At the end we are talking about people who are not even paid for doing their jobs getting so self-righteous and delusional that they will not falter at lying or deceiving in order to enforce the agenda their new owners wanted applied (including driving out people they felt hurt the PG-13 status of the site like the Gutter, FoS and others), just to keep their internet magical cards website moderator/admin tag.
Scumbag says it best here. At least most of us realize that our overall contributions to the internet are meaningless whereas some Iridium mods feel that they're on some great moral quest against "mean posts" in favor of "forum decency". Hell, there was a guy who used to hang out in the Gutter /
The Gang (before the clan was retired) and he really wanted to fit in. Sadly, after being given a mod tag, he came to turn against us in an epic fit of hypocrisy. To put his newfound internet anger in perspective, he unfriended my banned account on Sally months after I'd been banned. That sure showed me. :stupid:

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:20 am
by Col. Khaddafi
try writing M.TGS Staff without the dot ;)