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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:41 pm
by Kaitscralt
You can't ragequit something you never join

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:48 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I ragequit the Ham Challenge today.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:32 pm
by hamfactorial
This Maverick dude sounds like he has ragequit potential.
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

I don't mean that sarcastically as some sort of quip, I just legitimately don't know what it is I'm supposed to be rage quitting.
Life, with any luck

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:33 pm
by hamfactorial
I ragequit the Ham Challenge today.
:jerk: :ape:

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:13 pm
by DroppinSuga
Image

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:22 pm
by GoblinWarchief
Why are you all questioning luck being or not a factor in magic? Of course it is, it is a card game and you have no way to influence what you draw / the pool you open besides cheating. It is a bad habit to justify losses with bad luck because there is almost always something very small you could have done differently, but in the end if you mull to 4 because you see no lands you 're going to lose despite all your efforts.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:29 am
by GoblinWarchief
yeah, keeping a 5 card no lander is "ok" if you are on the draw and play an aggressive deck with tons of 1 and 2 drops.... otherwise no landers are automulls

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:31 am
by DroppinSuga
When I :scrump:

You :scrump:

We :scrump:

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:39 am
by Khaospawn
Droppin :scrump: er

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:53 am
by Khaospawn
Well, guys, Modern Burn took down a GP. Red finally gets its almighty 2-drop and things begin to happen...

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:05 am
by DroppinSuga
At my shop, if it's Modern, you're going to play against Burn 3/4 of your matches. It's obnoxious.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:05 am
by Second Harkius
FOS = Flock of Scrumps

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:10 am
by BlakLanner
At my shop, if it's Modern, you're going to play against Burn 3/4 of your matches. It's obnoxious.
Seems like a good time to break out Finks and Helixes.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:11 am
by DroppinSuga
Since when is Goblin Guide nearly 25 bucks?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:15 am
by Second Harkius
Since SCG realized they could gouge for it, same as any price inflation.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:18 am
by hamfactorial
Wow, time to put my set up on eBay

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:22 am
by Second Harkius
Wow, time to put my set up on eBay
Scrump on scrump gouging. :no:

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:22 am
by hamfactorial
:unibrow:

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:23 am
by Second Harkius
You guys are supposed to protect each other from superior players and predatory traders since they are above you on the mtg food chain.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:24 am
by hamfactorial
We've fully adapted to the predatory DTR environment

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:28 am
by Second Harkius
We've fully adapted to the predatory DTR environment
:thumbsup:

Those of you who are still here and didn't turn tail and run back to Sally after a week are the true heroes.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:28 am
by hamfactorial
RIP redthirst

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:45 am
by Alex
All joking aside, something had to have happened. Zem is a very good magic player and sealed isn't that hard. You either have a good pool, an average pool or a bad pool. I've seen Zem play enough to know he isn't a scrump. The fact that we expect results says something too. My guess is bad pool > worse luck. I just hope this doesn't discourage him.
No such thing as a bad pool. If something happened, it had nothing to do
with Magic. I've gone to tournaments while on tilt about other stuff and done terribly in the past. It happens.
Agree to disagree.

I've opened an abysmal pool, scrubbed out of a ptq and finished second in the Canadian Magic Cup in the same day.

I was in the same mindset, just had tools to work with in one and not in the other.
"Agree to disagree" is a cop out and you know it. There's a reason top players consistently do well in most events regardless of format. Luck has just as much to do with sealed as it does constructed - nothing.

You can argue "But what if you don't get bombzzz!!11" all day, but after watching enough sealed, especially at the professional level, how often do those games come down to "Who cast the rare?" Proper deck construction is only about 100 times more important than having a Soul of Theros in every pool. One of my first M15 pools that I ever played, I played a 0-rare, no-bomb deck that was just
a midrange deck that battled dudes. I won that event easily because sometimes having the best card doesn't mean you have the best overall card quality in your deck. I've seen guys go G/W when they had no business playing either of those colors because "OMG SOUL OF THEROS IN MY POOL."

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:46 am
by Valdarith
Came in 6th at IQ. Sad to not take it down after playing solid Magic, but thems the breaks. At least I didn't go full scrumper!

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:48 am
by DroppinSuga
Scrumpin' on a prayer!

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:51 am
by Second Harkius
There but for the grace of scrump go I

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:54 am
by DroppinSuga
Scrump on my wayward son

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:58 am
by Khaospawn
:rofl:

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:59 am
by Second Harkius
Stairway to Scrumpin

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:03 am
by Alex
Into the Fire and Scrump

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:03 am
by Alex
Scrumpaback Girl.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:06 am
by Valdarith
Scrumpback Mountain?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:15 am
by hamfactorial
As I went down in the standings to play
Losing to variance the usual way
And who shall burn the bottom 8 down?
Good scrumpers, show me the way...

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:19 am
by rcwraspy
There's a reason top players consistently do well in most events regardless of format. Luck has just as much to do with sealed as it does constructed - nothing.
I think this is the thing that confuses people the most when it comes to "does luck factor in to it or not" discussions.

Top players do everything in their power to put themselves in winning positions. They make the better deck/meta decisions, they put in a LOT of practice, they make good mulligan decisions and play decisions during the game. That's why you always see the better players at their level (that, and the fact that it's easier to keep your level once you have it than attain it for the first time).

The whole "don't blame it on variance" thing is because
most players don't perfect those items and can always get better at those decisions.

But that doesn't mean variance and luck don't exist. At the end of the day you're drawing from a randomized stack of 40 or 60 cards, and so is your opponent.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:22 am
by Second Harkius
FOSers blame Lady Luck for their losses because she's a woman.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:46 am
by Alex
There's a reason top players consistently do well in most events regardless of format. Luck has just as much to do with sealed as it does constructed - nothing.
I think this is the thing that confuses people the most when it comes to "does luck factor in to it or not" discussions.

Top players do everything in their power to put themselves in winning positions. They make the better deck/meta decisions, they put in a LOT of practice, they make good mulligan decisions and play decisions during the game. That's why you always see the better players at their level (that, and the fact
that it's easier to keep your level once you have it than attain it for the first time).

The whole "don't blame it on variance" thing is because most players don't perfect those items and can always get better at those decisions.

But that doesn't mean variance and luck don't exist. At the end of the day you're drawing from a randomized stack of 40 or 60 cards, and so is your opponent.
FOSers blame Lady Luck for their losses because she's a woman.
You used a lot of words to say "Good players are good."

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:52 am
by TBuzzsaw
Didn't everyone here link and fawn over some article about how luck doesn't exist and saying that you lost to bad luck makes you an asshole or something?

Or.is that just when non-FoS people say that?
Ikr. I got flank for saying some of my loses were due to luck.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:05 am
by Alex
Flank steak is delicious.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:15 am
by Purp
I have been stuck in the X-2 rutt for quite some time, I ALWAYS lose win and ins.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:05 am
by Second Harkius
At least you can admit it without making excuses, which in my book makes you an X-0 kinda guy


(even if you're X-2 in reality).