[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Kaitscralt]

You can't ragequit something you never join

[Lightning_Dolt]

I ragequit the Ham Challenge today.

[hamfactorial]

This Maverick dude sounds like he has ragequit potential.

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

I don't mean that sarcastically as some sort of quip, I just legitimately don't know what it is I'm supposed to be rage quitting.

Life, with any luck

[hamfactorial]

I ragequit the Ham Challenge today.

[DroppinSuga]

[GoblinWarchief]

Why are you all questioning luck being or not a factor in magic? Of course it is, it is a card game and you have no way to influence what you draw / the pool you open besides cheating. It is a bad habit to justify losses with bad luck because there is almost always something very small you could have done differently, but in the end if you mull to 4 because you see no lands you 're going to lose despite all your efforts.

[GoblinWarchief]

yeah, keeping a 5 card no lander is "ok" if you are on the draw and play an aggressive deck with tons of 1 and 2 drops.... otherwise no landers are automulls

[DroppinSuga]

When I

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[Khaospawn]

Droppin er

[Khaospawn]

Well, guys, Modern Burn took down a GP. Red finally gets its almighty 2-drop and things begin to happen...

[DroppinSuga]

At my shop, if it's Modern, you're going to play against Burn 3/4 of your matches. It's obnoxious.

[Second Harkius]

FOS = Flock of Scrumps

[BlakLanner]

At my shop, if it's Modern, you're going to play against Burn 3/4 of your matches. It's obnoxious.

Seems like a good time to break out Finks and Helixes.

[DroppinSuga]

Since when is Goblin Guide nearly 25 bucks?

[Second Harkius]

Since SCG realized they could gouge for it, same as any price inflation.

[hamfactorial]

Wow, time to put my set up on eBay

[Second Harkius]

Wow, time to put my set up on eBay

Scrump on scrump gouging.

[hamfactorial]

[Second Harkius]

You guys are supposed to protect each other from superior players and predatory traders since they are above you on the mtg food chain.

[hamfactorial]

We've fully adapted to the predatory DTR environment

[Second Harkius]

We've fully adapted to the predatory DTR environment

Those of you who are still here and didn't turn tail and run back to Sally after a week are the true heroes.

[hamfactorial]

RIP redthirst

[Alex]

All joking aside, something had to have happened. Zem is a very good magic player and sealed isn't that hard. You either have a good pool, an average pool or a bad pool. I've seen Zem play enough to know he isn't a scrump. The fact that we expect results says something too. My guess is bad pool > worse luck. I just hope this doesn't discourage him.

No such thing as a bad pool. If something happened, it had nothing to do
with Magic. I've gone to tournaments while on tilt about other stuff and done terribly in the past. It happens.

Agree to disagree.

I've opened an abysmal pool, scrubbed out of a ptq and finished second in the Canadian Magic Cup in the same day.

I was in the same mindset, just had tools to work with in one and not in the other.

"Agree to disagree" is a cop out and you know it. There's a reason top players consistently do well in most events regardless of format. Luck has just as much to do with sealed as it does constructed - nothing.

You can argue "But what if you don't get bombzzz!!11" all day, but after watching enough sealed, especially at the professional level, how often do those games come down to "Who cast the rare?" Proper deck construction is only about 100 times more important than having a Soul of Theros in every pool. One of my first M15 pools that I ever played, I played a 0-rare, no-bomb deck that was just
a midrange deck that battled dudes. I won that event easily because sometimes having the best card doesn't mean you have the best overall card quality in your deck. I've seen guys go G/W when they had no business playing either of those colors because "OMG SOUL OF THEROS IN MY POOL."

[Valdarith]

Came in 6th at IQ. Sad to not take it down after playing solid Magic, but thems the breaks. At least I didn't go full scrumper!

[DroppinSuga]

Scrumpin' on a prayer!

[Second Harkius]

There but for the grace of scrump go I

[DroppinSuga]

Scrump on my wayward son

[Khaospawn]

[Second Harkius]

Stairway to Scrumpin

[Alex]

Into the Fire and Scrump

[Alex]

Scrumpaback Girl.

[Valdarith]

Scrumpback Mountain?

[hamfactorial]

As I went down in the standings to play
Losing to variance the usual way
And who shall burn the bottom 8 down?
Good scrumpers, show me the way...

[rcwraspy]

There's a reason top players consistently do well in most events regardless of format. Luck has just as much to do with sealed as it does constructed - nothing.

I think this is the thing that confuses people the most when it comes to "does luck factor in to it or not" discussions.

Top players do everything in their power to put themselves in winning positions. They make the better deck/meta decisions, they put in a LOT of practice, they make good mulligan decisions and play decisions during the game. That's why you always see the better players at their level (that, and the fact that it's easier to keep your level once you have it than attain it for the first time).

The whole "don't blame it on variance" thing is because
most players don't perfect those items and can always get better at those decisions.

But that doesn't mean variance and luck don't exist. At the end of the day you're drawing from a randomized stack of 40 or 60 cards, and so is your opponent.

[Second Harkius]

FOSers blame Lady Luck for their losses because she's a woman.

[Alex]

There's a reason top players consistently do well in most events regardless of format. Luck has just as much to do with sealed as it does constructed - nothing.

I think this is the thing that confuses people the most when it comes to "does luck factor in to it or not" discussions.

Top players do everything in their power to put themselves in winning positions. They make the better deck/meta decisions, they put in a LOT of practice, they make good mulligan decisions and play decisions during the game. That's why you always see the better players at their level (that, and the fact
that it's easier to keep your level once you have it than attain it for the first time).

The whole "don't blame it on variance" thing is because most players don't perfect those items and can always get better at those decisions.

But that doesn't mean variance and luck don't exist. At the end of the day you're drawing from a randomized stack of 40 or 60 cards, and so is your opponent.

FOSers blame Lady Luck for their losses because she's a woman.

You used a lot of words to say "Good players are good."

[TBuzzsaw]

Didn't everyone here link and fawn over some article about how luck doesn't exist and saying that you lost to bad luck makes you an asshole or something?

Or.is that just when non-FoS people say that?

Ikr. I got flank for saying some of my loses were due to luck.

[Alex]

Flank steak is delicious.

[Purp]

I have been stuck in the X-2 rutt for quite some time, I ALWAYS lose win and ins.

[Second Harkius]

At least you can admit it without making excuses, which in my book makes you an X-0 kinda guy


(even if you're X-2 in reality).