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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:07 pm
by BlakLanner
Tournament Rules Section 3.15, Paragraph 4
"During a game, players may look at their own sideboard and the sideboard of any players they currently control. The sideboard must remain clearly distinguishable from other cards."
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:33 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
But... why?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:37 pm
by Khaospawn
Why not?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:52 pm
by Alex
Knowing your opponent's sideboard is mega sweet. I was playing against Tron at the PTQ in Greensboro yesterday and the dude (surprisingly) did not elect to look at my sideboard, which was unfortunate for him because in the next two games I turn 2 Blood Moon'd the shit out of him.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:54 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I understand why you would, free info is great, but why the fuck is that a rule? It makes no sense. You don't generally look at your sideboard unless the game is over. It just seems really stupid to me.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:58 pm
by Alex
You can look at your own sideboard at any time, as long as you aren't stalling. I do it a lot, especially in eternal formats, because I'm not 100% comfortable with my entire sideboard. I probably read
Sowing Salt like 4~ times a tourney on average. :\
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:00 pm
by Alex
I keep my sideboard handy, though. Face-down beside my playmat, so it's always right there. As I see cards in the first match that I would want to target sideboard hate at, I like to double-check that I have it in the board, since I change decks so much.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:02 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
You can look at your own sideboard at any time, as long as you aren't stalling. I do it a lot, especially in eternal formats, because I'm not 100% comfortable with my entire sideboard. I probably read
Sowing Salt like 4~ times a tourney on average. :
If my opponent was looking at his sideboard, I would call a judge for stalling lol.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:03 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Or assume that he was conceding.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:05 pm
by Alex
And then you would probably get either a dirty look or a warning. People look at other zones all the time, this is no different than somebody looking at their graveyard.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:07 pm
by BlakLanner
Also don't forget about things like Wishes where you can pull what you want from your sideboard. Sometimes it is good to check to see what you have left. I know several Tron players who started looking at my sideboard because of the oddities that I sometimes carry (Hide/Seek, Rain of Gore, etc).
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:08 pm
by Alex
I don't play any graveyard interaction at all in my Affinity list, but I will look at my graveyard regularly to check to see how many copies of cards I have left. I guess I must be slow playing. Why do we not have an animated
smiley yet?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:24 pm
by Khaospawn
We need a "Fuck her right in the pussy!" smiley. Like, it NEEDS to be that creep in the hoodie and glasses.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:58 pm
by hamfactorial
You can look at your own sideboard at any time, as long as you aren't stalling. I do it a lot, especially in eternal formats, because I'm not 100% comfortable with my entire sideboard. I probably read
Sowing Salt like 4~ times a tourney on average. :
Saito is that you?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:34 pm
by magicdownunder
20 Burn decks made it into day two
(source) no top8's which is great news for burn grinders
Lots of BGx decks in top8 (no surprise), 2 infect
, 2 Robots and 1 Blue Moon
ZERO twins, UWr or Pod
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:35 pm
by BlakLanner
It definitely lessens the chance of hate against us if it didn't top8.
Testing my stream setup in a Standard DE. Between rounds right now.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:06 am
by Khaospawn
What happens on MTGO if my opponent never responds to the start of a match? Do I have to watch that timer count down all the way to zero and then I get a win?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:07 am
by Khaospawn
And then "The Final Countdown" starts playing on my Ipod. Lolz.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:08 am
by magicdownunder
What happens on MTGO if my opponent never responds to the start of a match? Do I have to watch that timer count down all the way to zero and then I get a win?
After 7-10 minutes you'll get the win (assuming your not the one frozen).
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:11 am
by Khaospawn
What happens on MTGO if my opponent never responds to the start of a match? Do I have to watch that timer count down all the way to zero and then I get a win?
After 7-10 minutes you'll get the win (assuming your not the one frozen).
Yep, I just got my confirmation to your response. Free match win for me.
Guess my opponent heard how badass I am and was too afraid to show up...to his keyboard...and face a computer screen...right?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:51 am
by Self Medicated
Fucking scrubs with their shitty internets.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:14 am
by Khaospawn
Fucking plebs...
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:15 am
by BlakLanner
1-2 drop at the Standard DE
Highlights are up for critique.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:24 am
by Lightning_Dolt
And then you would probably get either a dirty look or a warning. People look at other zones all the time, this is no different than somebody looking at their graveyard.
People ask me to play faster anytime I think about anything lol. Should I be giving them dirty looks?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:25 am
by Khaospawn
1-2 drop at the Standard DE
Highlights are up for critique.
You can go read the results of all my bad DEs and SEs in the last 24 hours in the Mono Red Burn thread in the Modern section if it will make you feel better.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:26 am
by Khaospawn
And then you would probably get either a dirty look or a warning. People look at other zones all the time, this is no different than somebody looking at their graveyard.
People ask me to play faster anytime I think about anything lol. Should I be giving them dirty looks?
You need to be telling them that you're tired because you were up all night FUCKING THEIR MOTHERS.
Fuck those people. Take all the time you need (within reason).
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:57 am
by Lightning_Dolt
It's because they play slow control decks that go to time lol.
I have gone to time once in competitive magic, and it's because my opponent was new and took 85% of the match time.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:58 am
by BlakLanner
If there is one big benefit to MODO over paper, it is the chess clock. The fact that I play fast should not give my opponent a benefit on the clock.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:06 am
by zemanjaski
I go to time regularly
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:07 am
by BlakLanner
You also play a grindier deck than most of us. Combine that with your meta and I am not surprised you go to time.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:09 am
by zemanjaski
I also play deliberately slowly.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:11 am
by zemanjaski
In that I'm deliberate, not that I'm deliberately slow playing. Though I've done that too.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:45 am
by Alex
And then you would probably get either a dirty look or a warning. People look at other zones all the time, this is no different than somebody looking at their graveyard.
People ask me to play faster anytime I think about anything lol. Should I be giving them dirty looks?
You could try not playing slow?
I've never had this issue. My average turn is maybe 45 seconds at most unless I'm playing something particularly thought intensive. This includes OCD habits like looking through my graveyard, (thanks, Innistrad block!) checking my sideboard for relevant cards, and
reaffirming wording on cards on-board. I'm not sure what you're doing that takes longer unless you're tanking on EVERYTHING.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:27 am
by Mcdonalds
Fuck bitches, get money
#AmIDoinItRight
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:30 am
by DerWille
@Taking too long - As long as you're not stalling, take all the time you need. If they get pissed off, tell them to fuck off. Think your decisions through properly. They can learn to wait.
I usually take longer than average to finish a game. At the stores I frequent I'm known to take the longest of all the red players, like it's not uncommon for me to tank for a minute or two at a time. My longest match ups are almost always aggro mirrors. Like, it'll be small aggro vs small aggro and we'll go longer than the control mirror every single time.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:34 pm
by Dechs Kaison
And then you would probably get either a dirty look or a warning. People look at other zones all the time, this is no different than somebody looking at their graveyard.
People ask me to play faster anytime I think about anything lol. Should I be giving them dirty looks?
You need to be telling them that you're tired because you were up all night FUCKING THEIR MOTHERS.
Fuck those people. Take all the time you
need (within reason).
"Go faster? That's exactly what your mother said last night."
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:50 pm
by Khaospawn
Dechs knows what's up.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:05 pm
by BlakLanner
If you guys don't record your 8man/DE matches, I highly suggest you start. I found so many things that I would have missed from just yesterday if I wasn't able to go back and watch them again. I don't know if it would have pulled me through in the matches, but you never know.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:33 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Dechs knows what's up.
Your dick.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:55 pm
by Khaospawn
Dechs knows what's up.
Your dick.
"Sucking on my titties like you wanted me, calling me all the time " - Peaches, "Fuck the Pain Away"