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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:04 pm
by Jack
What don't you like about it? Is it just the fact that it doesn't do anything until really late?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:06 pm
by Jack
I'm kind of a fan of "I win" buttons, so I play 2. The deck has a lot more flex slots than most.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:10 pm
by hamfactorial
UR Delver decks are all about gaining small edges with cheap counters and some efficient creatures. Pike is win-more, and you're likely winning already if your Delver/YP$ is connecting in combat unopposed. The 4 mana that you spend to play and equip it will give your opponent a window to kill your relatively fragile win conditions.
But sometimes Pike is an oops-I-win, so #yolo
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:15 pm
by Jack
Except sometimes it's not. Sometimes you both end up hellbent after you finish up a counter war with your snapcaster on the battlefield, so that accelerated clock is really important. Other times you have a pike out, 11 instants and sorceries in your yard and 9 creatures left in your deck, and if your opponent is out of resources, the game is over when you draw that creature.
...shit, I guess it's just a wannabe manland.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:16 pm
by Jack
You definitely never tap out for it, though.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:29 pm
by Valdarith
UR Delver decks are all about gaining small edges with cheap counters and some efficient creatures. Pike is win-more, and you're likely winning already if your Delver/YP$ is connecting in combat unopposed. The 4 mana that you spend to play and equip it will give your opponent a window to kill your relatively fragile win conditions.
But sometimes Pike is an oops-I-win, so #yolo
It's a late-game card. It's REALLY good against UWR control because short of countering it or bouncing it with Cryptic they have no way of interacting with it, so every creature you play or create is a must-answer. This allows you to actually play the control role in the matchup (counterintuitive, but it works).
I do think Grim Lavamancer is the better all-around
card though. I'd just not run it without at least four fetches.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:20 am
by DroppinSuga
I'm working on possibly borrowing fetches. If I do, I'll be playing Grim $-mancer
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:21 am
by Jack
I really hope we get enemy-color Celestial Colonnade-type lands next block.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:21 am
by Jack
Though that won't happen, because they won't do 15 rare CIPT duals for Standard.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:22 am
by DroppinSuga
I really hope we get enemy-color Celestial Colonnade-type lands next block.
This would make me super happy.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:24 am
by redthirst
Happy B-day Raida.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:32 am
by hamfactorial
I really hope we get enemy-color Celestial Colonnade-type lands next block.
A RW man land would be amaze, even if it was just a bear.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:35 am
by Jack
That's interesting, actually. I'm not sure if I'd play it over Mutavault (entering untapped is probably better than tapping for two colors), but a R/W
Ghitu Encampment with haste or vigilance added would probably be reasonable.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:43 am
by hamfactorial
Mostly I'd just love a RW dual for my Modern deck, because I'm prone to flooding on 24/25 land. Even if it was wimpy, it would be better than another Clifftop Retreat.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:44 am
by Mcdonalds
Plateau
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:45 am
by hamfactorial
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:46 am
by Self Medicated
If only
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:48 am
by DroppinSuga
I just tweaked my wrist doing a burpee. lol.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:00 am
by hamfactorial
Burpees are pure evil. I couldn't complete my workout yesterday, which included a 10-1 reverse pyramid of burpees.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:02 am
by DroppinSuga
Burpees are hardcore. I'm not that hardcore, apparently.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:21 am
by hamfactorial
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:35 am
by LP, of the Fires
The term Burpee gives me flashbacks...along with anything exercise related.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:35 am
by LP, of the Fires
#mtgfatness
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:53 am
by magicdownunder
Happy Birthday Lightning_Dolt (from future land - yeah its the 28th over here)
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:54 am
by Second Harkius
Burpees are pure evil. I couldn't complete my workout yesterday, which included a 10-1 reverse pyramid of burpees.
quitter
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 2:03 am
by hamfactorial
Burpees are pure evil. I couldn't complete my workout yesterday, which included a 10-1 reverse pyramid of burpees.
quitter
Got me!
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 2:10 am
by Kazekirimaru
Burpees are hardcore. I'm not that hardcore, apparently.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 2:58 am
by Yarpus
What would you expect me to say after ~100 pages without me.
Penis.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:02 am
by hamfactorial
yarpus is back
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:10 am
by Yarpus
Didn't had access to internet for a longer while. I also had to deal with stuff. Broke up with girlfriend just for an example. Weird shit, weird times.
I'm totally off MTG now, so consider me to be mostly a companion for a dick paegantry.
Oh, and even as a fan of ERB I have to say this shit is next level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQHQvtIr6w
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:09 am
by magicdownunder
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:59 am
by Alex
My sister got into Facebook and I'm already sorry for any mental scars she leaves you with.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:03 am
by NerdBoyWonder
Just built UWR Kiki Control. On another note Happy Bday Raida!
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:08 am
by TBuzzsaw
Happy b-day Raida and LD in case I'm not in tomorrow.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:57 am
by Platypus
Happy birthday Lightning_Dolt!
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:55 am
by zemanjaski
Turn 1:
Misty Rainforest, go
Misty Rainforest, fetch Overgrown Tomb, Birds of Paradise
EOT fetch Island,
Twisted Image your Bird
Turn 2:
Sulfur Falls,
Spreading Seas your Overgrown Tomb
>:)
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:02 am
by RedNihilist
Turn 3:
Marsh Flats, go
Island, go
EOT: atcivate fetch
Response: Shadow of Doubt
?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:03 am
by RedNihilist
Evil people do evil things.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:19 am
by Alex
Turn 1:
Misty Rainforest, go
Misty Rainforest, fetch Overgrown Tomb, Birds of Paradise
EOT fetch Island, Twisted Image your Bird
Turn 2:
Sulfur Falls, Spreading Seas your Overgrown Tomb
>:)
I'm scared to ask what deck you were playing that had this combination of cards in it...
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:42 am
by RaidaTheBlade
Thanks for all the birthday wishes
And happy birthday to L_D too!