First off, where we ended up at the end of the Day was strange, and how we got there had me suspicious of those not voting.
That's a lynch!
Vote count #8:
LMD(5): stardust, ham, witchhunt, rianalnn, jaime
Jaime(2): red, lmd
Not Voting(2): rez, rcw
With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch
Both rez and rcw were involved at the start of the Day, then said they needed time to come down one way or the other. That didn't happen in either case despite a fair amount of time to do so. I was surprised when both our leading wagons (LMD and Jamie) flipped town, so started turning this game over in my head without rereading. Thinking back on rcw's late-in-the-Day contributions, it's a bit funny, particularly
this post. That doesn't matter anymore for multiple reasons, but just to say I wasn't considering rcw for no reason.
rezombad is sort of a similar case. He was active Day 2, but didn't really do much. Defended Jamie (without much basis, in my opinion), voted me without ever presenting reasoning, then unvoted when that didn't take and never came back. I'll go into more detail here in a bit if I decide to push a case against rez, but Day 2 really bugged me on the whole. It's a bit of a weird situation to have two townie wagons competing Day 2, and scum often don't know what to do with that. rezmo seemed unjustifiably sure of his town reads (in both cases), which is a frequent scum response to a townie wagon if the scum is looking to stay distant from an oncoming townie flip.
Does Roleblocker actually prevent the bomb from going off though? Can anyone confirm that?
A standard roleblocker wouldn't, but if there's a roleblocker that makes someone lose their abilities for a night or something it could happen. I'm really not sure what happened to kpaca, but it's for sure an odd ability mix to make this happen.
It feels like scum trying to make sense of something happening on their turf (after night fell). It looks like Stardust was right, but he put it together way too quickly, especially since he said he hadn't paid attention to the game once night fell.
Me not rereading the game doesn't mean I wasn't paying attention. My focus was on why there were two townie deaths, what roles made sense for that outcome and what that meant for the Day 2 wagons on those two players. I didn't reread a single old post, but I did read the new ones and consider what that meant to the game.
That he claims it makes the game harder for scum is giving me pause. Of course it doesn't make anything harder for scum. They know who is scum and who isn't. From there it's just a matter of hopping on and off wagons instead of leading their charge.
It definitely does make life harder for scum. Let's say you're an activated innocent child - publically mod confirmed town whenever you send him a PM. Do you use it right away? No! You wait until there's a wagon on you so you get that town "flip" and all the wagon information that goes along with it. rcw wasn't going to get a wagon on him anyway, so it's really fine that he claimed, but if it had been someone else, not claiming until that wagon forms (or at least until people come down with some votes for the Day) gives town an advantage. Scum are often very concerned about getting the roles out there so they know who it's safe to make cases on.
Shooting Jamie was a perfectly reasonable choice,
it was fairly reasonable
i suppose. (there was a wagon on jamie for a while but everyone pretty much realized that he was town and moved on)
"Everyone" not including red, LMD, me and apparently rcw. Why even mention this? What is my scum motivation here?
I want to highlight another thing this scum posted today that bothered me:
I'm a bit concerned that ya'll might want to just lynch me at this point .... Need to find a better alternative before that happens.
Figured you'd latch onto that when I posted it, but it's also true, so...
let me know if you want me to explain what i see in those posts. But I'd like to see what others come up with.
Yeah, I have no idea what you're pointing at at least. I think you'd better put together an actual case here, because now that I'm replying, I don't see you pointing to anything that has a proper scum motivation. Forcing a town bloc to reveal itself actually hurts the town, and I think that's you're only real point against me.
