Dies to Removal

Maybe it's ok in this deck? Less removal for dagrons.

I like the list Johnny_Spike, but you really need to swap Chains for Boros Reckoner - because your lack of defense against small aggro (g1) seems lethal.

Elspeth seems uncastible on 24 lands...

I tried Boros Aggro (both version, lazer tweak by mistake and the version in question) I won both games, here is the Boros Aggro I'm currently testing:

[deck=73/75 Stolen]LANDS 25
13 Mountain
4 Mutavault
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph

CREATURES 23
4 Ash Zealot
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Stormbreath Dragon
4 Chandra's Phoenix
3 Boros Reckoner

INSTANTS and SORCERIES 10
4 Boros Charm
4 Lightning Strike
2 Mizzium Mortars

OTHER SPELLS 2
2 Chandra, Pyromaster

SIDEBOARD
1 Boros Reckoner
2 Mizzium Mortars
1 Assemble the Legion
4 Chained to the Rocks
1 Hammer of Purphoros
4 Shock
1 Tajic, Blade of the Legion
1 Rod of Ruin[/deck]

I'm at 401 tixs, so I won't be-able to test anymore games unless I
find away to unload my boosters without putting myself in a lost.

My thoughts on the list:
1) It Mulls great (its been a very long time since I played with 25 lands)
2) It can beat small aggro solely because Boros Reckoner MD is boss
3) It can beat control because Boros Charm MD is boss

The Achilles heel is the Bx MU, I'm hoping Assemble the Legion and Hammer of Purphoros is enough to hold them back, if I do get to sell my boosters and test against more Control list - I'll try and workout if I can cut hammer for another Assemble the Legion.

Any thoughts on switching Reckoner for Frostburn as more flexible tech? It's not quite as good vs aggro, but better vs control (4 damage vs 3 when un opposed and comes down a turn earlier) and gives you a way to convert mana to damage without using your limited direct-damage burn.

What makes it a trap card? Mono blue uses it well.

The deck is only mana hungry for the first 6 turns, since you have 0 deck fixing your also bound to draw many worthless spells and lands.

Against Control (when it goes the distance) Hammer is your best friend (you don't need to sac a land every turn to gain value just giving your 1cc spells haste is enough).

The deck is only mana hungry for the first 6 turns, since you have 0 deck fixing your also bound to draw many worthless spells and lands.

Against Control (when it goes the distance) Hammer is your best friend (you don't need to sac a land every turn to gain value just giving your 1cc spells haste is enough).

Feel free to test them (hammer and weird) but they didn't work for me.

I'll be testing every night this week in all likelihood. Will try to post what I learn. Two GPTs this weekend.

@MDU

Would two maindeck chains have made a difference?

Thanks for the info, only 3 UWx decks I needed them to keep checks and balances.

I would opt for Boros Aggro, Boros Burn or Rwb Burn in the current meta, monored doesn't cut it anymore.

Looking at your sources one would think the Rwb burn deck with 10 control spells MD looks prime (I wouldn't run it on MODO but if you expect the meta to stay the same it looks darn solid).

On a side note: How do you guys rate SCG events? I recall, someone telling me its like a huge FNM

Quoted from our local Grim Lavamancer:

Thoughts on SCG and Pros

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What do you think of 'pro' players?

My views on pro players are quite
controversial, but I assure you that they are based on both talking to and playing against them. I firmly believe there are two types of Pros ~ Good and Bad. Examples of Good Pros: Most Japanese players, LSV, Michael Jacob, Jon Finkel, Brian Kibler. Examples of Bad Pros: the entirety of SCG Blue and Mike Flores (especially Mike Flores). This isn't necessarily two polar extremes, most players fit somewhere on the spectrum between those two points. My issue with the Bad Pros is exactly, that, they're bad. Most of these players are just known players on the SCG circuit, which if you have not played in it, is like a big FNM ~ the skill level is many levels lower than a GP or even MTGO. Success at an SCG event means very little in the scheme of things.

My greater concern is that it is very much the bad Pros that actively court cults of personality and force their opinions into the public, for less experienced and knowledgeable players to eat up and spout like gospel. Why do they do this?
Because they don't win a lot of money playing and they desperately need to supplement their income. A lot of the very best players in the world, like Finkel, Martell and Vidugiris work 50 hour weeks and still frequently Top 32 on the PT. Compare that level of achievement to the SCG Blue team who play magic full time and do....basically nothing? LSV and MJ might be full time players as well, but that is only made possible by the huge amount of success they have had.

The other common misconception is that these Pros are unbeatably good at the game. Kibler went 0-3 (after his byes) drop at the last modern GP, and 1-3 drop at the one before that ~ and he is a top level, dual PT winning player. They can be beaten, especially the lesser ones. I have won matches against most name players online (except MJ, I have never beaten MJ in a match), and have a crushing record against Todd Anderson, which is fine, because he publicly admitted to bullying his wife to let him become a pro player ~ oh,
that's the other thing, the lifestyle is not all its cracked up to be either, unless you're one of the Good Pros.

It is fine and good to respect these people, who educate and entertain us. But when it verges on hero worship, it not only doesn't help your own game develop, but it sets you back greatly ~ how can you beat someone if even in your imagination, they always have the answers?