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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:04 pm
by hamfactorial
Nah I'm not lurking, just catching up on all the RVS nonsense and antagonizing CM a little.

I can see motivation either way for io2 to talk about C_P being confirmed town, too soon to tell.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:06 pm
by Mcdonalds
I'm just saying you should have either ignored red (like I did since he was obviously assuming that confirmed town is dead town) or ask him a less vague question in order to actually learn something useful from him. My response of "why not" was me trying to show how asking vague and simplistic questions doesn't actually accomplish much.
I figured it was pretty clear what I was asking why for, why did he think CP is going to be NK day 1, the scum team already knows he is town, and if he became a leader/was a problem he would be nk'd, there is no reason to assume he is going to be nk'd.

It only becomes vague/confusing if you try to think to deep into it.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:12 pm
by imopen2
Official Votecount!

Captain Murphy (1): hamfactorial
Lord_Mcdonalds (1): rezombad
imopen2 (2): InflatablePie, Wraith223
hamfactorial (1): rcwraspy

Not voting: Lord_Mcdonalds, Captain Murphy, Cursed_Pride, Jack, imopen2, DroppinSuga, RedNihilist

With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
I unvoted.

@LMD: it still seems silly since you know what he meant and yet asked him to explain what you already knew. I don't think this makes you scum, I just encourage you to ask more probing questions.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:15 pm
by Mcdonalds
...lets just drop this bit shall we ^_^

I'm also a firm believe of giving people enough rope to let them hang themselves with

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:58 pm
by rezombad
Ham is scum
LMD is scum

CM is town
imopen is town

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:14 am
by hamfactorial
Why am I scum? Let's dig in.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:29 am
by DroppinSuga
Hey, I'm off work and I'm here!

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:35 am
by rezombad
Why am I scum? Let's dig in.
spend 5 posts spamming to 'catch up on rvs'. Seems scummy.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:40 am
by rezombad
also self conscious.
Unvote
Vote: hamfactorial

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:40 am
by rezombad
Unvote
Vote: hamfactorial

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:44 am
by DroppinSuga
The RVS was really disappointing. Not one vote was latched on to.

Ham seems like a decent target,

vote ham

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:56 am
by hamfactorial
Why am I scum? Let's dig in.
spend 5 posts spamming to 'catch up on rvs'. Seems scummy.
:shrug: might be, might not be

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:05 am
by rezombad
Yeah, vote stays.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:17 am
by hamfactorial
Bad vote, but sure. Do you see legit scummy behavior, or is there something about me fucking around that you find scummy? If legit, please explain.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:28 am
by Cursed_Pride
Hum.

Captain Murphy and hamfactorial probably not co-aligned.

And I don't care for hamfactorial at the moment.

Lynch: hamfactorial

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:47 am
by InflatablePie
not seeing ham scum

not liking Suga's vote much

this is a haiku

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:07 am
by Cursed_Pride
If you don't see hamfactorial as scum, and you don't like DroppinSuga's vote, then how come you aren't voting DroppinSuga? Why are you keeping your useless RVS vote on imopen2?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:11 am
by rezombad
Bad vote, but sure. Do you see legit scummy behavior, or is there something about me fucking around that you find scummy? If legit, please explain.
Your actions were scummy, your reactions were scummy, this post is scummy, you're scum.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:06 pm
by hamfactorial
Nope, I'm not scum this game, and I'm starting to see why Z always got mad at you for being terrible.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:30 pm
by rezombad
Lol. If ever there was a scum response. Way to overreact to one vote and then start mud slinging.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:46 pm
by hamfactorial
It's OK, this will be useful for town analysis later

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:47 pm
by hamfactorial
spoiler alert: not actually mad at you

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:18 pm
by rcwraspy
so I count 4 votes on Ham? Is that correct? Mine was RVS but I'll keep it until Ham posts something town-ish.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:38 pm
by hamfactorial
Yup, that's 4 on me.

@ Pie - Suga tends to do these drop-in, vote, wander-off things regularly. Do you not like it for that reason, or have you spotted something else there?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:41 pm
by Mcdonalds
vote hamfactorial

who do you think is scum ham?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:47 pm
by hamfactorial
Not sure yet, but I'm watching the wagon

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:06 pm
by Wraith223
Do you like fish sticks?

Either way do you have any content to add to the game at this point or are you just going to actively lurk?
What content could I provide to make you feel that my lurking is simply a passive thing?
@Rez, I can't find where you see ham acting like scum? The bolded portion so far has been reflected in his further posts. I have not seen him get nasty with you except for mentioning the Zem responses to you which are nothing like Ham so far. You seem to really be pushing Ham vote over opening votes and Ham has
responded with town logic. I could be wrong as the last game has me second guessing bad. I am just concerned that town is falling for a scum bussing of ham. Ham is hard to read from my perspective.

@LMD and Cursed_Pride where do you see your scum read on Ham?

I just don't see it.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:55 pm
by rcwraspy
Wraith, why is Ham hard to read? What posts are troubling you?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:55 pm
by rcwraspy
also, why aren't you playing in SCG Dallas?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:57 pm
by rezombad
5 of his posts were absolute garbage and then he freaked out about getting voted and started mud slinging.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:05 pm
by rcwraspy
damnit rez let Wraith answer first.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:37 pm
by rezombad
damnit rez let Wraith answer first.
He asked me, I'm also kind of drunk

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:46 pm
by Wraith223
@rcwraspy, I don't live in Dallas yet. My background check with DPD is still in process of being completed. Still have to do the medical and psych exam.
On game- I just feel Rez and Cursed_Pride are pushing a vote on no real evidence.
5 of his posts were absolute garbage and then he freaked out about getting voted and started mud slinging.
This is not real evidence as Ham (to me) is not mudslinging. You are way to defensive about the Zem comment and that bothers me. If your only evidence is that; I can't get behind it yet. You may have reasons I can't see, and I want to hear from LMD and Cursed_Pride first before voting.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:53 pm
by hamfactorial
Sorry guys, I tend to be a bitch when I'm town and people start piling on me with votes. It happened in my first game, so I remember it especially strongly. I'll try to keep it level now, since a mislynch day 1 isn't much value to us.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:00 pm
by Wraith223
unvote for now.

Rez's vote push is bothering me.

We have not heard from Jack. Red has not posted in a while.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:10 pm
by Mcdonalds
@LMD and Cursed_Pride where do you see your scum read on Ham?
I don't have a strong scum read yet, I want to hear more from ham

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:10 pm
by Mcdonalds
*wanted

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:11 pm
by Mcdonalds
@rcwraspy, I don't live in Dallas yet. My background check with DPD is still in process of being completed. Still have to do the medical and psych exam.
This is stopping you how?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:17 pm
by InflatablePie
[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=215130#p215130:26d8q389]Cursed_Pride » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:07 am[/url:26d8q389]":26d8q389]If you don't see hamfactorial as scum, and you don't like DroppinSuga's vote, then how come you aren't voting DroppinSuga? Why are you keeping your useless RVS vote on imopen2?[/quote:26d8q389]

I'm sorry, I didn't know I was allowed to only suspect one person. my apologies.

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=215210#p215210:26d8q389]hamfactorial » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:38 am[/url:26d8q389]":26d8q389]@ Pie - Suga tends to do these drop-in, vote, wander-off things regularly. Do you not like it for that reason, or have you spotted something else there?[/quote:26d8q389]

rez's vote seems logical from his POV, C_P is confirmed town. Suga's vote seems worse.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:24 pm
by Wraith223
@rcwraspy, I don't live in Dallas yet. My background check with DPD is still in process of being completed. Still have to do the medical and psych exam.
This is stopping you how?
I could get hired by Border Patrol (already taken exams with the as well) tomorrow as well and have to move again. I have many applications in the works elsewhere to.

On Game- I have only played 2 with Ham and he did not talk much anyway. Rez has more experience with him than I, but Rez's evidence seems pushy or highly open to interpretation.