Was this an RVS vote?Whoa. My role is fuckin' crazy.
Hey, zeman, thing is, you've already said something silly. I agree with Kaze that you don't sound genuine. But I don't think I'll vote you quite yet. I'd rather go after rcw. That guy's been scum every game I've ever played with him.
Vote rcwraspy.
this is very assumptive of you. votes on stardust are legit until he returns and answers our questionsStardust votes rcw for always being scum or w/e
ham votes Stardust
???
scumbuddies!
um... is there an alternative Miller that you've played with before or something?So your a miller, that could mean any number of things, what is there to discuss about it?
unvote inflatablepieWhoa. My role is fuckin' crazy.
Hey, zeman, thing is, you've already said something silly. I agree with Kaze that you don't sound genuine. But I don't think I'll vote you quite yet. I'd rather go after rcw. That guy's been scum every game I've ever played with him.
Vote rcwraspy.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
wow, more assumptive than I thought. I wouldn't need to defend ham if you weren't making unfounded accusations against him. there's nothing "weird" about my stardust vote, and I recognized your miller claim. "dokay" means I don't believe you.unvote
vote: imopen2
defending ham + weird justification for Stardust vote + lack of reaction to miller claim = trying to blend in surreptitiously and hope no one calls him out
ham + rcw + imopen scumteam, gg game broken.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
Now this is a list I can get behind40 posts in, scum are;
rcwraspy, stardust, inflatablepie
You're either onto something and a genius or completely off. I'll assume the latter for now.unvote
vote: imopen2
defending ham + weird justification for Stardust vote + lack of reaction to miller claim = trying to blend in surreptitiously and hope no one calls him out
ham + rcw + imopen scumteam, gg game broken.
Hm. imopen is a bit more sardonic then I remember as town.
wow, more assumptive than I thought. I wouldn't need to defend ham if you weren't making unfounded accusations against him. there's nothing "weird" about my stardust vote, and I recognized your miller claim. "dokay&
quot; means I don't believe you.
your scumteam reads are terrible. care to explain them? it might be fun
So I appreciate you confirming me as town. Also voting yourself is not town.vote: Pie because rezom is town as fuck. always sheep the town-as-fuck.
Right, so, also: I am a Miller. Discuss.
ham voted stardust because stardust said one person was scummy and voted another. This is you misrepresenting the situation.Stardust votes rcw for always being scum or w/e
ham votes Stardust
???
scumbuddies!
Your vote for imopen is pretty OMGUSey. "If you don't believe my miler claim you are scum."unvote
vote: imopen2
defending ham + weird justification for Stardust vote + lack of reaction to miller claim = trying to blend in surreptitiously and hope no one calls him out
ham + rcw + imopen scumteam, gg game broken.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
If I may interject, I'm familiar with pie's playstyle as we both hail from the same mothersite; he regularly self-votes in RVS to stimulate discussion. I'm calling it null.So I appreciate you confirming me as town. Also voting yourself is not town.
What does "possible bus target" mean here?Rcw seems like a possible bus target based on interactions so far. I want to hear stardust's response before I comment further
You seem to be trying to deflect attention from stardust onto yourself...oh, and rezzy, while you're explaining yourself, please explain why you're currently bandwagoning Stardust instead of leaving your vote on me, if you think we're both scum.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
hamfactorial, imopen2, rezombad, kaze, tubehunterStardust has four votes. L-3.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
it means that if I believe that pie and stardust are scum together, stardust's vote for rcw and pie's throwing rcw into his scum list is a possible bus.What does "possible bus target" mean here?Rcw seems like a possible bus target based on interactions so far. I want to hear stardust's response before I comment further
an even better question is how was rcw considered scum before he posted.I just want to ask, why are ham and rcw aligned?
Ham has 1 post (btw post something dawg) and it seems like an rvs vote in every sense. I guess the only wierd thing is that its a bit late for it.
overly concernedre: rezzy (and define 'worried'?)
it goes against your wincon. I'm not entirely worried about the self vote because I think you were trying to get some discussion from it.explain to me, in excruciating detail, what is wrong with voting for yourself on page one of a game. a similar situation popped up in another game I was in a month or so back. give me reasons why it is proactive for scum to do this.
You're right, I misread. Rereading, he could be voting for stardust because of stardusts dumb post and being cryptic. Or just rvs'ing. I've never played a game with hamfactorial though so I don't know.ham voted stardust because stardust said one person was scummy and voted another. This is you misrepresenting the situation.
I wasn't quite getting that from ham's post at all. he said: "to hunt corruption you must first embrace it". don't try and flip that around to match your reason here; ham's post doesn't make any fucking sense to me. it's vague bullshit.
Your vote for imopen is pretty OMGUSey. "If you don't believe my miler claim you are scum."
no, that's not
really one of the main reasons for the vote. I gave others y'know. I did include it because I try and think of these things from an outside perspective sometimes.
1. Neither here nor there imodefending ham + weird justification for Stardust vote + lack of reaction to miller claim
How do you know this?oh christ there's 4 scum in a 12p, this game's broken as balls.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
It's funny that you are demanding explanations and complaining about having to explain things.man, I'm used to not explaining myself... and if I have to keep doing this, even though it's so much fun, it just ruins things for me a little
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
exactly, your explanation was weak because it doesn't make sense. ham's "defense of rcw" in the form of a vote on stardust is not nearly enough of a reason to be confident in an rcw+ham scum team (especially considering stardust's scummy post where he voted Z), or even of a shared alignment. if they aren't scum, how would ham know to defend rcw? your claim of a shared alignment only makes sense ifexplained that already.
from a neutral standpoint I guess you could use the same logic with Stardust and I given my reactions to the wagon and whatnot. which I've also stated.
[pedit] imopen: he's scum because I said so. happy?
I was giving you a passRVS is a tool. It is not a place where it is okay to be random, nor is it a place where votes do not matter because "lolRVS." It has a purpose - and that is to kickstart scumhunting. Since everyone gets their Role PMs before the start of the game, every post from the beginning is readable.
Town wants to get out of RVS as soon as possible and
start scumhunting and creating good discussion. Completely random votes(random.org), self-votes, voting the mod, etc are all means of perpetuating RVS and attempting to hide behind a "shield of random" as scum as well as attempting to stay unreadable. They don't want to put out information Town can read into. So, derp RVSing is a means of limiting information to the town.
In addition to all of that, derpRVSing is a means of perpetuating an overall feeling of "it's okay not to be serious" and prohibits scumhunting further. By projecting an air of unaccountability, Scum can make it incredibly difficult to get good reads at the beginning of the game. This harms the town. This is scummy. Very very scummy.
TL;DR - The purpose of RVS is not to be random, but to GET OUT OF RVS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. RedNihilist is not attempting to do that.
Votes for RedNihilist are good things.
I miscounted on purpose. Scum would have let it slide hoping to get a mislynch/derphammer before the vote count. rezombad corrected me like a good townie.hamfactorial, imopen2, rezombad, kaze, tubehunterStardust has four votes. L-3.
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