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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:09 am
by DarthStabber
Hence the vegan suggestion.
I like meat, and I don't think we're meant to life without it.
It works just fine, and people live without it just fine.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:17 am
by Helios
I would like to see some real science on these diets, because for both vegan and paleo I've seen nothing but short-term, anecdotal evidence (not saying it doesn't exist, but it isn't often cited).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:23 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Then you're stuck with count your calories and work out.

Staying in good shape isn't easy or convenient. Sorry.
This, almost definitely this.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:23 am
by RaidaTheBlade
Just got back from my first fnm since my month-long hiatus.
Went 4-1 with my only loss being a really close fun match against what is one of my worst matchups anyways.

I had fun :D

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:25 am
by zemanjaski
Less carbs (like 50g a day) + mild caloric restriction + exercise. Get at me via message if you want details. I don't do anything fancy but I manage to stay in really good shape without trying.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:28 am
by NerdBoyWonder
Went to a Modern FNM taking Zoo. Went 3-0 taking on Tempo Twin, Jund & Scapeshift.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:35 am
by Khaospawn
I've drank a lot of Amberbock tonight. It's delicious. :D

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:42 am
by hamfactorial
I can't really, dangerous for diabetics. You can have uncounterable low blood sugars that land you in a coma if you have no sugars stored in your liver.
There's a paleo podcast I listen to, they covered paleo for diabetics in a recent episode. check it out

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:44 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Basically I need a diet where I can eat nearly the same thing everyday that's about 2000 calories, less than 25% calories from fat, 15-20% from protein,25-30 grams of fiber, low cholesterol, low sodium, with most carbs coming from fruits, vegetable and low fat dairy.

Could a Paleo fit into that?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:47 am
by Lightning_Dolt
And I need to get the fuck out of Japan.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:49 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I have to eat lunch with the kids, and it's 850 cal everyday and it's food that I get zero enjoyment from eating, so I can't replace dinner with lunch if that makes sense.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:26 am
by Lightning_Dolt
@ Ham, Where did you get stated with Paleo, information wise?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:33 am
by DarthStabber
I just read a very interesting study on dieting here.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:36 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I like the onion.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:38 am
by Lightning_Dolt
@ Ham, listening to the Podcast... What are these guy's credentials? Some of their facts about anthropology are contrary to what I've heard other places.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:41 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I have to opposite experience with cardio + blood sugar.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:41 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Cardio makes my blood sugar crash.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:46 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I have never had a spike from exercise.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:47 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Actually, magic tournaments fucking wreck me. My blood sugar goes so high.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:18 am
by magicdownunder
Totally random, but Kangaroo streak made right is awesome :smileup:

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:20 am
by Kaitscralt
why is it always the fat people who pretend to know the most about dieting

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:51 am
by DarthStabber
why is it always the fat people who pretend to know the most about dieting
I'm neither fat nor do I claim to know anything other what has worked for me in the past. 6'1" and 190lbs isn't fat, and before I started eating animal products again I weighed in at 170lbs (from 250lbs before I started).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:59 am
by zemanjaski
If you aren't sick of me yet, you will be soon. Someone is being featured in not one, not two, not three.....but FOUR CFB contributions next week.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:10 am
by Mcdonalds
Pics or gtfo

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:11 am
by zemanjaski
Better, got videos ;)

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:15 am
by Lightning_Dolt
why is it always the fat people who pretend to know the most about dieting
If that's at me, the info I posted was based on research on what is best for my diabetes.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:59 am
by TBuzzsaw
I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that I lost a game for second place at FNM to a new player that was so clumsy that he dropped cards he was holding several times, dropped his mana base onto the floor at least four times, kept asking me if he played land the first game, knocked over his deck picking up his pen, and kept accidentally taking my cards to put into his graveyard. I had to mull down to 5 both games and was only able to get one removal each game. Game one he had two Firefist Strikers and a Hammer so you can imagine how that game went. Game two he went two BTE, a Reckoner, Fanatic, and two Stormbreaths. Everyone he played were visibly upset losing to the guy (he finished 5-1, losing his only game due to thinking an inactive Purphoros could block).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:16 am
by zemanjaski
#reddeckwins

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:21 am
by TBuzzsaw
Sometimes stupid dumb luck goes a long way.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:33 am
by NerdBoyWonder
Shit happens. Last week I scrubbed out bad at gameday losing to 2 BNG event decks. Lessons learned and just move forward.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:52 am
by zemanjaski
Played out of my skin to scrape a 3-1 in the DE I was recording. Hell yeah.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:20 pm
by DerWille
I went 3-1 at FNM running Rw burn. I lost to mono black in the first round. I don't mind losing but the guy rubbed me off the wrong way.

I know that it's legal to shuffle your opponent's deck, but the guy would sit there mashing shuffling my deck in the weirdest way for a few minutes after every mulligan/hand. He would split the deck in half, then mash the top 1/4th of one pile into the bottom 1/4th of the bottom pile. Then after that, he would take the top 1/3rd of the deck, grab the next 1/3rd, but the top part down and then put the middle part down. I got the impression he was trying to cut/shuffle me into bad hands (he was successful).

The other matches were good though. Had a stupid hard game 3 against mono-blue devotion. I was able to take it because I was able to sneak in about 6 or 8 damage with a mutavault.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:16 pm
by Valdarith
Speaking of diets, I've gained 10 pounds since my wife got pregnant. Turns out her cravings for pizza and milkshakes have had an adverse effect on my health. No big deal though. I've been known to lose 10 pounds in a pretty short time when I put my mind to it.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:12 pm
by lorddax
L_D, I feel you man. Just got diagnosed with untyped diabetes (endocrinologist says 1.5 but wont make it official until my next tests) in July after being admitted for DKA. I've found that if its a diet(ie something I'll do for a bit to reach a goal), it won't work for me. Needs to be a life style change thing. I've dropped from 275 to 240 from basically just taking my basal insulin and cutting out anything that comes from a box, also helps that the wife is allergic to high fructose corn syrup so there's not a lot of junk food in the house now anyway.

You might want to try looking at a Community Supported Agriculture type deal to see if there are any in your area of Japan. Getting farm fresh vegetables and meat delivered to your door makes eating not crap a lot easier. If time to actually make food is a problem for you like it was for me, buying a second bigger slow cooker so I can toss ingredients in when I leave
for work and just have it slow cook for the 8-10hrs I'm at work means I get come home to a house that smells like food and a meal that isn't full of garbage.

A lot of it does go back to what Z said, cut calorie intake by a bit until you reach your goal weight, exercise 30mins to 2hrs a day, drink at least 64oz of water (check with your dietitian tho, I was on 128oz a day originally), aim for 7-8hours of sleep a day, and don't eat garbage. That will get you a lot of the way there, and then its just making upgrades when/where you can as you are comfortable. Grabbing the whole wheat instead of white bread, getting a pita instead of bread, using lettuce instead of bread etc etc. I'm probably paeloish, I've moved to majority protein and veggies but still keeping homemade breads. Why? Because I enjoy it. If you hate your dietary restrictions, you won't follow them, so adjust where needed.

Blood sugar management at long events can be tough tho, I've started bringing 2 big water bottles otherwise I
buy soda and my sugar slowly climbs till I can't focus correctly. There's also a protein bar and some apple juice in my bag for any event where I might miss a meal or have crappy food choices.

Finding an eating plan that works for you is a process, and sometimes not an easy one. Ask your dietician for advice if you have one, if not, trial and error is the world's oldest teacher.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:30 pm
by DarthStabber
I went 3-1 at FNM running Rw burn. I lost to mono black in the first round. I don't mind losing but the guy rubbed me off the wrong way.

I know that it's legal to shuffle your opponent's deck, but the guy would sit there mashing shuffling my deck in the weirdest way for a few minutes after every mulligan/hand. He would split the deck in half, then mash the top 1/4th of one pile into the bottom 1/4th of the bottom pile. Then after that, he would take the top 1/3rd of the deck, grab the next 1/3rd, but the top part down and then put the middle part down. I got the impression he was trying to cut/shuffle me into bad hands (he was successful).

The other matches were good though. Had a stupid hard game 3 against mono-blue devotion. I was able to take it because I
was able to sneak in about 6 or 8 damage with a mutavault.
Anyone who mash shuffles someone else's deck deserves to the bottom of their large intestine slashed out of their abdomen and shoved down their throat, and thus be a human ouroboros. The only times I see dragon sheilds split is when some hamfisted lowgrade moron bashes the two halves together. sadly the judge ruled that you are allowed to do that, and if you split their sleeves you are not reponsible in any way. I may "mash shuffle" my deck, but I am exceedingly careful about doing so, but these idiots are seriously putting a lot of exertion into battering my sleeves. One dim jackass (on whom I called the judge) actually split 10 sleeves in one mash, destroying 15 that match, and no penalty, and he did shit like that every match. The next week I slashed 2 of his tires and pissed in his gas tank, and most of us switched to penny sleeves. He stopped showing up after that. It's probably for the best because that
first time I got banned from the store for the day after all the shit I said to him (and it was heinous, it would have been a hate crime if he wasn't white and straight, like full on gunnery sgt. Hartmann laced with insinuations of him being conceived after his mother fucked a donkey at a mexican circus, along with unsubtle encouragement for ending his own life). Yeah, I was full tilt, but even now I still think I was too nice to him.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:56 pm
by hamfactorial
@ Ham, Where did you get stated with Paleo, information wise?
I got started reading at http://www.marksdailyapple.com and filled in the science with two books, "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes and "The Paleo Solution" by Robb Wolf.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:06 pm
by Jack
It's really gonna suck when my metabolism slows down and I have to start watching what I eat. But for now, I enjoy it.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:15 pm
by Jack
They put season 4 of Archer up on Netflix. I am happy.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:28 pm
by DerWille
I went 3-1 at FNM running Rw burn. I lost to mono black in the first round. I don't mind losing but the guy rubbed me off the wrong way.

I know that it's legal to shuffle your opponent's deck, but the guy would sit there mashing shuffling my deck in the weirdest way for a few minutes after every mulligan/hand. He would split the deck in half, then mash the top 1/4th of one pile into the bottom 1/4th of the bottom pile. Then after that, he would take the top 1/3rd of the deck, grab the next 1/3rd, but the top part down and then put the middle part down. I got the impression he was trying to cut/shuffle
me into bad hands (he was successful).

The other matches were good though. Had a stupid hard game 3 against mono-blue devotion. I was able to take it because I was able to sneak in about 6 or 8 damage with a mutavault.
Anyone who mash shuffles someone else's deck deserves to the bottom of their large intestine slashed out of their abdomen and shoved down their throat, and thus be a human ouroboros. The only times I see dragon sheilds split is when some hamfisted lowgrade moron bashes the two halves together. sadly the judge ruled that you are allowed to do that, and if you split their sleeves you are not reponsible in any way. I may "mash shuffle" my deck, but I am exceedingly careful about doing so, but these idiots are seriously putting a lot of exertion into battering my sleeves. One dim jackass (on whom I called the judge) actually split 10 sleeves in one mash, destroying 15 that match, and no penalty, and he did shit like that every match. The next week I slashed 2
of his tires and pissed in his gas tank, and most of us switched to penny sleeves. He stopped showing up after that. It's probably for the best because that first time I got banned from the store for the day after all the shit I said to him (and it was heinous, it would have been a hate crime if he wasn't white and straight, like full on gunnery sgt. Hartmann laced with insinuations of him being conceived after his mother fucked a donkey at a mexican circus, along with unsubtle encouragement for ending his own life). Yeah, I was full tilt, but even now I still think I was too nice to him.
Damn DS. Damn. From the second game onward I did the same thing to him. I would shuffle his deck for as long as he shuffled mine (I think I split a few of his old sleeves in the process). I've played with a few guys that shuffle your deck but they only give it 3 or 5 mashes and call it good. With this dude, I didn't get to play my first mountain until the people next to us had finished their
game 1.

If it weren't for the impression that he was trying to game my deck through overly elaborate shuffling and cutting, I wouldn't have been annoyed.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:32 pm
by DroppinSuga
People at my LGS hate it when you just tap their deck and give it back. They really want you to shuffle it for some reason