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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:51 pm
by Kaitscralt
Except instead of FNM it's mtgo and instead of win I lose

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:52 pm
by TubeHunter
or just not play draft and be happy

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:52 pm
by Self Medicated
My only limited experience has been with sealed and I have done rather well. I have never really tried draft. I think I might try it.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:56 pm
by Kaitscralt
do it. join the drafk side

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:56 pm
by rcwraspy
My only limited experience has been with sealed and I have done rather well. I have never really tried draft. I think I might try it.
Yeah I've done fairly well in Sealed also. GIve me a group of cards and tell me to mash the best or most synergistic 40 together and I can usually figure it out just fine.

It's the picking process of Draft that just confounds me.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:57 pm
by rcwraspy
I will say, though, that 2HG Sealed is pretty damn fun.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:04 pm
by TubeHunter
I've had nothing but bad experinces with 2hg

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:14 pm
by TubeHunter
Tarns and mistys are 100, fuck that.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:16 pm
by Pendulum
Signals are overrated, most pros will say the same. Just pick and be mindful of what you pass and are being passed.
To be fair, some sets it's more important to recognize signals than others; RoE or Mirrodin 2 drafts come to mind as formats that it was worthwhile to pay attention to what overarching strategies you weren't seeing so you knew what you might want to invest into instead.
Not that I don't agree with the main point, though.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:22 pm
by Kaitscralt
you're right

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:24 pm
by Kaitscralt
is that what you wanted to hear

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:35 pm
by hamfactorial
Tarns and mistys are 100, fuck that.
Lozlz, I sold mine too early!

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:37 pm
by Kaitscralt
GG Modern

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:49 pm
by Valdarith
SCG is BUYING them for $70 a pop. Think about that for a minute.

Also, I'm watching the Imperial Painter deck that won SCGSTL. I love that deck so much. Watching the tears flow as Esper Deathblade and RUG Delver players get Blood Moon locked is so awesome.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:04 pm
by Calamity
Drafting requires a lot of intuition (I might just be saying that because I'm an intuitive person and usually do quite well where I draft. Not saying I'm good by any stretch, but one of the best draft players where I am) and the right picks are completely situational. Most people want an easy flowchart and/or don't think, which is why they're bad at drafting.

I'm pleased at the price trajectory of the fetches, being that I own 4 tarns, 2 mistys, 4 mesas, and a lone marsh flats. It'll only get crazier during PTQ season.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:21 pm
by DerWille
SCG is BUYING them for $70 a pop. Think about that for a minute.

Also, I'm watching the Imperial Painter deck that won SCGSTL. I love that deck so much. Watching the tears flow as Esper Deathblade and RUG Delver players get Blood Moon locked is so awesome.
The guy at Roguedeck builder made a video recently speculating that the Magic economy might be in a bubble at the moment. Card prices are skyrocketing across the board, even for cards that aren't any good and way too quickly. I think he might be on to something.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:27 pm
by hamfactorial
Nice! The 12 Snapcaster Mages I've been holding onto since INN rotation are up to $30 on TCGPlayer.

Time to throw these fools up on eBay and buy a boat.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:16 pm
by Stardust
The guy at Roguedeck builder made a video recently speculating that the Magic economy might be in a bubble at the moment. Card prices are skyrocketing across the board, even for cards that aren't any good and way too quickly. I think he might be on to something.
Doesn't count as a bubble if the price increase is due to the growing playerbase. Speculators are a thing, but they aren't responsible for the majority of price hikes. Prices have sustained their crazy trajectory for years now, and I don't see any reason to believe that this time will be any different.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:18 pm
by Khaospawn
Tarns and mistys are 100, fuck that.
I own almost 2 playsets of each. :scared:

The funny thing is, I just picked up 2 Mistys a month ago at $48. They've almost doubled. Holy shit...

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:32 pm
by Purp
Working on an overlay for stream tonight

Image

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:37 pm
by hamfactorial
Looks sharp, Purp :thumbsup:

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:46 pm
by Valdarith

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:04 pm
by rcwraspy
so what's the general consensus of ZEN fetch prices once they're reprinted? Will they tank like RAV Shocks or will they just stabilize a little lower than before reprint like Lorwyn Thoughtseize?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:08 pm
by Khaospawn
I could care less. I gots mine. :shrug:

But it would he nice to not be able to play musical fetches every time I want to switch from Burn to Storm. Since I don't plan on getting rid of them, it'd be nice if they went down.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:12 pm
by rcwraspy
I've got my full 40 also - exactly 1 playset of each ZEN fetch.

But what I'm wondering is, should I try to turn those into revised duals and buy them back when/if they're reprinted, and what will the value be then?

I got mine for $20/ea for Mesa, Catacombs, Flats, $30 for Tarn, and $40 for Misty so I could profit pretty nicely.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:14 pm
by Calamity
They would have to be printed in main expansion (i.e a shitload) in order for their price to be dented at all. The earliest that can happen (though i find it unlikely) is this Fall when RtR rotates out, though who knows if Wizards foresaw/cares about the fetches being as ridiculously priced as they are.

I'm guessing a reprint in a main expansion would make them go down to a reasonable price but who knows

As for me, I'm probably going to ditch my fetches now (i'd more than double my money) and just play EDH or switch to Netrunner. I barely play modern nowadays anyway. Either that or get some Liliana of the Veil's and try playing some 8Rack... that shit is going to be ridiculous with Waste Not

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:19 pm
by rcwraspy
I love 8Rack. I have 2 sleeved Modern decks right now - UR Delver and 8Rack haha. I'm happy with the fact that all I'll need is Waste Not, and I have everything else for it.

Part of my hesitation with turning fetches into revised duals is that I've actually never played in a sanctioned Legacy event. But I've played in a handful of sanctioned Modern events with the good likelihood of many more in the future, including GP Boston this July.

But they're REVISED DUALS!!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:20 pm
by rcwraspy
I guess if I know for a fact they won't be reprinted by July (obvs) and I want to play in GP Boston and I don't know what deck I'll be on, I should probably keep them.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:21 pm
by Valdarith
A reprint in a major expansion would make them decrease dramatically. Only reprinting in a thing like a Modern event deck will have little to no effect.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:22 pm
by TubeHunter
I love me some legacy. I havent actually played it since theros dropped, but then again, ive played 4 times since theros dropped (one was the BNG pre-re)

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:22 pm
by Calamity
Yeah for 8rack i'm hesiatant to get bitterblossoms for it since I think Waste Not could be better in that slot (obviously would require testing) since it can accelerate your mana, draw you cards, AND get you dudes (though you can only get dudes against creature decks) and they don't fly.

Plus bitterblossom is still like 60 bucks

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:24 pm
by rcwraspy
Oh, yeah, I'm playing removal instead of Bitterblossom in my list. Don't have them and don't want to spend $60/each on a card that was $8/each 2 months ago.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:29 pm
by Kaitscralt
that's not a very good reason to not use a card

the fact that bb is too slow right now is a better one

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:34 pm
by rcwraspy
that's not a very good reason to not use a card

the fact that bb is too slow right now is a better one
It's not a good reason to not use a card competitively.

It's just fine for a reason for me to not want to buy it. I don't need a reason for that, actually.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:35 pm
by TubeHunter
to be honest not spending 60+ is a pretty good reason.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:59 pm
by hamfactorial
If spending $200 on a playset of a card wins me the tournament, I'd gladly do it. Assuming you play enough and don't play garbo decks, it pays for itself after a few tournaments.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:03 pm
by rcwraspy
don't play garbo decks
Precisely. It was in the context of Modern 8Rack which, while it had a showing at the PT, isn't going to spike a tournament any time soon. But it's so fun :)

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:10 pm
by Kaitscralt
that's not a very good reason to not use a card

the fact that bb is too slow right now is a better one
It's not a good reason to not use a card competitively.

It's just fine for a reason for me to not want to buy it. I don't need a reason for that, actually.
yea you do

you have to justify all your choices to me regarding everything

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:31 pm
by rcwraspy
that's not a very good reason to not use a card

the fact that bb is too slow right now is a better one
It's not a good reason to not use a card competitively.

It's just fine for a reason for me to not want to buy it. I don't need a reason for that, actually.
yea you do

you have to justify all your choices to me regarding everything
oh, right. how could I forget.


Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:33 pm
by Kaitscralt
:talore:

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