Dies to Removal

Iso, You are asking me for town info. I gave it (roleblocker). You still want more info? I tried thinking outside the box with flavor theory. Got alot of good responses from it. You keep asking me for more town info; I don't have anything else cause the Posts are all on me.

I clearly don't understand Void and now have no interest ever to do so.
Zem is getting thatway for me as well as he is rabbid to vote anyone in high ennough vote support early game.
Captain Murphy finally showed up and just voted me without any reads of his own.
I have one question for all of you. Why have a sign up for roles in this game if they don't matter? Any information given is
more than we had.
A bunch of questions of "are you town or scum" is not getting us anywhere.
Folks voting for me.
TubeHunter -Keranos
Iso -Thassa Significant god
Void-Karametra
DroppinSuga- Phenax
Captain Murphy-Karametra
4 lesser gods not listed in the 5 from Theros
2 are folowing their leader and one lacks a brain.

I don't have anything else to give for town right now beyond that.

Edit- Void is Nylea. Sorry Void! Copy/pates did not work. Hmmmmm. So the girls are working together.
Nylea might be able to control the beasts to get the sword as
well. Mogis was killed first. Why? Violence is more an anti blue thing, but green seems more controled/defensive this game minus the hydras. Why would Red/Mr. P. Kill his own dude? Hell, it could be a black type god as well. Black likes to sacrifice its own dudes.
My theory is a road map, not a the vote call. Still trying looking for variable relationships.

can guy do some research in a direction no one else is willing to without being hated out of the game for it? Why do I deserve a vote for trying something else besides "are you town or scum"? Lame.

Thanks Mod for the update?

I don't think many of you give a shit anymore what I say, cause most are just looking for the first lynch to get a feel for votes.
DroppinSuga, RWC, and Tubehunter are legitamatey asking me
questions. I gave answers; they were not satisfied.
Iso just pokes holes in my theorys and does not offer any solid reasons why i am scum. his questions are leading and loaded. Uses WALLS of text to hide in and takes forever o recognize the Void connection.
Void is piggy backing/ working with Iso to create a trap. He could have just called me for more muddslinging, but decided instead to use his lizard brain.
Captain Murphy is a lurker and only posted on the bandwagon.

If you guys lynch me cause of this BS; think I will quit for while. My findings on games so far are that lurkers always win. If you remain silent enough and act or piggy back votes; scum win. If you talk or present out of box theories; you must be scum. What a bunch of ignorant jackasses.

reading through the list of name types, i notice that Void will defend the wilds with deadly savagery. Captain murphy prefers civilization over war/savagry. The sword is the new game changer. It is the ultimate tool of war and threat to both of these gods. Upon reading Thassa, she is a serious outlier. The sea is rater isolated in comparison to the other gods that rule over land. Thus competition is stronger there. I can see a serious relationship to of Void to Captain Murphy.
unvote

VOTE CAPTAIN MURPHY I hunt lurkers now. Void is still
a good target, but she at least plays to her strengths of quick savagery. Half to go to town for a quick job, will check in periodically with more ideas and relations.

@red, Nice thought! Erebos could hide him temporarily. A test kill of a plainswalker would be fitting. This is just a road map for us and not a vote. use mafia logic in comparison to me system for your knowledge.

Erebos, you hiding Mogis?

Not sure what you mean, wraith (re: erebos), and I don't have time right now to figure it out.

If
you want to convince people you are town you should start by answering the questions that iso posed to you.

Hammering you is tempting but you are probably more useful for analysis later if you stay alive a bit longer.

Maybe I am missing something from Iso? Can I get the questions in a simple line up instead of a giant wall to respond to. I find them to be commentary rather than questions. I tried to answer the first wall, but apparently that was not enough.

@others. I am still new to mafia. It seems most games are won by scum. Thus I find maybe a combo of new or less tried tactics are an order. I look at the crime, create a time line, compare posts, and finally look for lies. I can't think of another way to play this. If this is a game of who tells the biggest whoppers; I can do that more effectively at the hunting campfire.

He had this same sort of posting style in DTR Mafia. I don't think he's scum, he just has a hair trigger when it comes to voting for people.

He also stated in the previous game that he's avoiding the mafiascum wiki so he can figure out reads and tells himself. If he'd read, he would know that counter-voting Tube would look like panicky OMGUS.

I made the mistake of reading too much into flavor in Ragnarok mafia because of how little else I had to go on. Sounds like he is, too, hence that left field bit about Mogis and the sword.

Please don't reference ongoing games.

- Captain Murphy doing the drop by vote to put Wraith223 at L-1?

Iso, You are asking me for town info. I gave it (roleblocker). You still want more info? I tried thinking outside the box with flavor theory. Got alot of good responses from it. You keep asking me for more town info; I don't have anything else cause the Posts are all on me.

I clearly don't understand Void and now have no interest ever to do so.
Zem is getting thatway for me as well as he is rabbid to vote anyone in high ennough vote support early game.
Captain Murphy finally showed up and just voted me
without any reads of his own.
I have one question for all of you. Why have a sign up for roles in this game if they don't matter? Any information given is more than we had.
A bunch of questions of "are you town or scum" is not getting us anywhere.
Folks voting for me.
TubeHunter -Keranos
Iso -Thassa Significant god
Void-Karametra
DroppinSuga- Phenax
Captain Murphy-Karametra
4 lesser gods not listed in the 5 from Theros
2 are folowing their leader and one lacks a brain.

I don't have anything else to give for town right now beyond that.

What do you mean by "town info"?

I'm asking you for behavioral analysis. I'm not asking you to tell me who is what god in this game. That's listed in the OP.

WRAITH- I am on the iPad, bear with me. I gave behavioral analysis in earlier posts today! WTH?

Edit- Void is Nylea. Sorry Void! Copy/pates did not work. Hmmmmm. So the girls are working together.
Nylea might be able to control the beasts to get the sword as well. Mogis was killed first. Why? Violence is more an anti blue thing, but green seems more controled/defensive this game minus the hydras. Why would Red/Mr. P. Kill his own dude? Hell, it could be a black type god as well. Black likes to sacrifice its own dudes.
My theory is a road map, not a the vote call. Still trying looking for variable relationships.

You're not playing Mafia, here.

WRAITH- can I play how I see fit? I take a while to get to my point and prefer to flesh out my theories.

can guy do some research in a direction no one else is willing to without
being hated out of the game for it? Why do I deserve a vote for trying something else besides "are you town or scum"? Lame.

Thanks Mod for the update?

I don't think many of you give a shit anymore what I say, cause most are just looking for the first lynch to get a feel for votes.
DroppinSuga, RWC, and Tubehunter are legitamatey asking me questions. I gave answers; they were not satisfied.
Iso just pokes holes in my theorys and does not offer any solid reasons why i am scum. his questions are leading and loaded. Uses WALLS of text to hide in and takes forever o recognize the Void connection.
Void is piggy backing/ working with Iso to create a trap. He could have just called me for more muddslinging, but decided instead to use his lizard brain.
Captain Murphy is a lurker and only posted on the bandwagon.

If you guys lynch me cause of this BS; think I will quit for while. My findings on games so far are that lurkers always win. If you remain silent enough and act or piggy back votes;
scum win. If you talk or present out of box theories; you must be scum. What a bunch of ignorant jackasses.

I'm obviously asking questions that aren't "Are you town or scum?". Do you see me getting ganked for it? No. Step up, quit bitching, and play the goddamn game if you don't want to get lynched.

WRAITH- most of your shit is commentary, not a question. Also, it's a learning curve for me in this game. If you don't care for my style of play; I don't give a shit and find it may be on track for my theory on you and others. I dig in and don't let go.

Also, what you said makes no sense - how am I "taking forever to realize the Void connection" if you're accusing me of conspiring with Void?

WRAITH- You took forever to notice that I thought you and void are working together. Thought that was odd. Also you seem to put my posts in the their entirety for conclusions rather than dissect them. At least zem does that.

You're just saying anything you can to
get out of your lynch at this point, even if it doesn't make sense, and it shows.

WRAITH- I don't know what else you want or to do to show I am more town than already? I told everyone my ability, role blocker. I don't have anymore history to give in votes that are theorized, tests or perry votes.

reading through the list of name types, i notice that Void will defend the wilds with deadly savagery. Captain murphy prefers civilization over war/savagry. The sword is the new game changer. It is the ultimate tool of war and threat to both of these gods. Upon reading Thassa, she is a serious outlier. The sea is rater isolated in comparison to the other gods that rule over land. Thus competition is stronger there. I can see a serious relationship to of Void to Captain Murphy.
unvote

VOTE CAPTAIN MURPHY I hunt lurkers now. Void is still a good target, but she at least plays to her strengths of quick savagery. Half to go to town for a quick job, will check in periodically with more ideas and relations.

@red, Nice thought! Erebos could hide him temporarily. A test kill of a plainswalker would be fitting. This is just a road map for us and not a vote. use mafia logic in comparison to me system for your knowledge.

Erebos, you hiding Mogis?

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::banghead:
WRAITH- glad you are getting a work out.

Not sure what you mean, wraith (re: erebos), and I don't have time right now to figure it out.

If you want to convince people you are town you should start by answering the questions that iso posed to you.

Hammering you is tempting but you are probably more useful for analysis later if you stay alive a bit longer.

Maybe I am missing something from Iso? Can I get the questions in a simple line up instead of a giant wall to respond to. I find them to be commentary rather than questions. I tried to answer the first wall, but apparently that was not enough.

@others. I am still new to mafia. It seems most games are won by scum. Thus I find maybe a combo of new or less tried tactics are an order. I look at the crime, create a time line, compare posts, and finally look for lies. I can't think of another way to play this. If this is a game of who tells the biggest whoppers; I can do that more effectively at
the hunting campfire.

PM me after the game so I can walk you through some serious Mafia theory.

WRAITH- after listening to you rants, I would rather eat bug than have one more conversation with you. Also, I get to pick the bug.

As for my questions/issues with your play, I'm not sure what your own question is - I've picked apart things that I find troublesome with your play thus far and addressed them to you to understand your motivation for doing such. That's how Mafia is played. I'm not "hiding" behind walls of text - I'm touching on everything that I want to in order to make sure I understand where everyone is coming from so that I can best find scum. Trying to guess "Oh, Thassa is scum because water gets you wet" is really fucking dumb and isn't at all conducive to the game of Mafia. Stop trying to game the setup when, as has been stated multiple times before, mods will intentionally obfuscate who's what just to prevent players from being able to solve
the game without playing Mafia. TIA.

As you may notice, when you read the thread; I said I was unvoting because I thought he was at L-1; so I believed Murphy voting would have put him to L-1.

You're correct though, following SD's votecount.

Wraith - why do you have rednihilist in your town pile?

So you think walls of text are an indicator of mafia?

I think the problem is that your logic is totally flawed. Your accusations are based on nothing other than flavor and it's pretty well known that flavor isn't something you can go off from in a Mafia game. It would be far too easy to weed out the mafia if we flavor-gamed.

I think Zem is being to aggressive and trying to gain bandwagon votes. He knows that my vote calls are more evidence based, thus throwing mudd is a scum tactic to strip credibility away from me.

Vote Zemanjaski

I think Zem is being to aggressive and trying to gain bandwagon votes. He knows that my vote calls are more evidence based, thus throwing mudd is a scum tactic to strip credibility away from me.

Vote Zemanjaski

This is the post that leaves the greatest bad taste in my mouth about you Wraith. You come out and say that Z is being way too agresive to get bandwagon votes while you state that your vote calls are more evidence based. Which is strange, because all of your next votes are:

Vote me a post after I voted you. (Said i was too aggressive)
it was a perry vote and I did think you were jumpy to vote me as zem, in games I have played with him, posted a loaded vote I had to respond to. I admit that my call on day cop was wrong for day kill.
Vote Iso beacause Flavor it was a test/idea that worked to get the lurkers going, but failed as my ass became the target.
Vote murphy for your new strategy of voting for the lurkers. uh, yeah? He finally responds, but with no intelligence besides a vote.

I asked for what evidence you had for your vote before this claim, and you failed to acknowledge me, and continue to post votes that with no tangible evidence to legitimize them.
There nothing else I have that is not posted from me already! Zem sounded scum to me with that wish for cop role. I misunderstood cop role. Ham was a test vote and he responded town to me by not challenging me with negativity. Same for DroppinSuga. You were just a perry vote as I thought your being over
aggressive defending zem.
I also want to clarify a point from Z to you. He has asked you repeatedly why you couldn't get your role right on the first try, and you haven't done that yet. I would like you to answer that question.

I was also the first person to vote for you; and had never switched my vote.

I was also the first person to vote for you; and had never switched my vote.

Such mafia, very scum, so lynch

Just on the role title / role description wraith; just so you know for the future; I asked because mafia won't have that info readily available. When you get it that wrong it makes your claim look made up. The biggest issue is that you couldn't get the ability right until repeated prompting - this makes it look like you got your fake claim wrong (because you're new most likely); so you had to go look up what the ability actually did - my suspicion is furthered by your misunderstanding of the cop role, which is a very basic role - if you don't understand a basic role I can see you getting confused when trying to claim a more advanced one.

You just played in a game with a doctor, a role that can prevent a night kill; which is what you originally claimed the
ability as. If you're refusing to informal yourself through external sources, then you're limited to I game experience and it looks to me like you recycled info from DTR mafia.

I don't know. You were much less random as Town in DTR; but you faced no significant pressure there. I'd agree with Ham that you've a history of being extremely trigger happy with voting before, so that doesn't indicate scum to me. Flavour voting is new (and stupid FYI) but it's your first opportunity to do so and given your style I can understand why it would appeal to you (but seriously, no more).

The tone of your recent posts has me thinking frustrated Town.

That's unfortunate as Town probably has Wraith, Ham and Rezom; all of whom are historically useless.

Tube is probably Town. I'm Town. Imopen may be Town; I like his improved activity and detail in this game, compared to DtR (he was scum thare).

Raspy is tricky and I don't feel confident reading him. No experience with Void or Iso; they'll be fun to
tackle at some point. Suga and Wheat I don't know much about.

That's more effort than he has put into two previous games as one post.

Captain Murphy finally showed up and just voted me without any reads of his own.

I mean, we either lynch him or keep him around, will you not feel like lynching him later on down the line?

There are players with the same level of content, people just freak because I made a large move in my first post

For those who unvoted Wraith. Please give your reasoning on why.