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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:04 pm

On that note, anyone know hows to set-up bots? The only way to get "buy" prices is to sell it to humans (bots buy for less and sell for more).
I set up a bot through mtgo library a few weeks ago but I could never get it to buy or sell anything. I'm not sure if its because of my prices, my small inventory, or if I was doing something wrong. The bot would just sit for hours in buy/sell mode and never interact with any
humans
New bots always have a rough time of it since people go to the ones they know and trust. It also doesn't help that you can't search for cards in trade binders other than what is specifically advertised.
Yea, I thought this was the most likely scenario, but it wasn't worth my time to get it more popular and it was slowing down my computer significantly
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:06 pm

I'm just hoping that the scry lands, hero's downfalls, and night veil specters that I speculated on go up a ticket or 2 so I can make a good return. Currently count is about 20 of each of them
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:10 pm

Those nightveils aren't going anywhere
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:11 pm

Btw, GF will be in town the next week so I'll probably be playing a lot less magic :(

I think my attempts to get to 15 qps have been foiled again
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:14 pm

Shocking as it may be Scry lands see modern play (so they may go up) and when I brought the GW ones the other day for Hexproof they were really expensive.

I don't really think specters will go up, though HDF may increase very very slightly.
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:15 pm

Those nightveils aren't going anywhere
You don't think it will get played in modern? It's such a good fish card. It's like infiltratoresque with a bigger body.

Plus we don't yet know what into nyx will bring...
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:19 pm

Btw, GF will be in town the next week so I'll probably be playing a lot less magic :(

I think my attempts to get to 15 qps have been foiled again
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:20 pm

Nah not modern
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:22 pm

I only have 4 of each of the BNG scrys since they are so expensive and I'm hoping to snag them if they drop. I have 20-30 of each of the theros ones and I don't think I paid more than 1.2 for any of them. I think scry lands will get played in modern (and in standard for that matter) for a long time, and after theros stops ring opened, I think they will go up somewhat. If they hit 3 tix I'll have made nearly 150 tix
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:25 pm

Nah not modern
:stubborn: we'll see I guess. He is one of the best devotion cards (3 pips in two different colors on a body) and he is a perfect threat in control and Aggro-control decks. He's also not from a main set.

In the end I paid 2tix or less for all 20 of them so if they never go up it won't be a huge loss.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:57 pm

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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:21 pm

I know you guys probably don't know much about this but I have 4 complete sets of RtR and 2 of gatecrash. Should I wait till try rotate and redeem them to sell on ebay, or should I sell the high value cards now online and either piece out the whole thing or rebuy those cards post rotation for redemption? I feel like cards such as revelations are at their peak price and I might be losing value by holding them
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:29 pm

With Modern being a thing now, playable cards like Sphinx's Rev. won't dip a lot after rotation, but the value of the other cards in the set will tank after RTR rotates out.

Paper redemption is also not a very attractive option now that Wizards has increased the fees.

Do you intend to play with the cards, or just have them in your collection? Do you play mostly paper or prefer online? That might change the value proposition.

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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:43 pm

I play almost exclusively online, only playing paper for PTQs, GPs, and cube drafts. The RtR redemptions are still at the lower rate since they were before the price increased. Do you guys think redeeming and sitting on the cards is a good value proposition? There are quite a few cards that might get played in eternal formats (rev, rats, abrupt decay, verdict, DRS, dreadbore, d sphere...). Or I could hold them online I guess just to use them. I don't desperately need the money but I would hate to miss out on value. If revs drop to 20 for example, that's 40 tix of value lost from not selling mine now and buying them later
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:50 pm

With Modern being a thing now, playable cards like Sphinx's Rev. won't dip a lot after rotation, but the value of the other cards in the set will tank after RTR rotates out.

Paper redemption is also not a very attractive option now that Wizards has increased the fees.

Do you intend to play with the cards, or just have them in your collection? Do you play mostly paper or prefer online? That might change the value proposition.
Revelation sees play as a 1-2 of in Modern in one deck. It's gonna drop, pretty substantially I would guess.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:57 pm

If the RTR redemption fees are low, I think you're wise to redeem and flip it on eBay before the set value tanks in paper.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:06 pm

I'd sell everything except death rite and maybe about decay. And socks after course, keep those. Keep your scry lands. The price probably goes up during and soon after the block pro your. Standard cards shouldn't be jumping for a while as ptq season is over so I'd probably unload nightveils and other similar cards.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:10 pm

Deck just shit all over me in the last round vs. RW burn. I kept a hand of [Ash Zealot, Ash Zealot, Mountain, Mountain, Magma Jet, Whip of Erebos, Spike Jester] and only saw Mountains and black spells for the next 10 turns.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:16 pm

what is socks
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:18 pm

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:23 pm

MDU:

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:23 pm

lol
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Postby LaZerBurn » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:23 pm

This is the best place to see who is buying I think http://mtgowikiprice.com/
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:26 pm

So it looks like I could sell the set online for about 125, or on eBay for about 150. In order to redeem I have to pay like 15 so they're about even...maybe I should just sell online so I can keep all of the <1 tix cards in case they're ever good and save the hassle of redeeming, posting on eBay, shipping, fees, etc.?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:41 pm

nobody was gonna message you
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:35 pm

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Postby rezombad » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:41 pm

Recording the PE, no messages.
I feel like if you didn't want messages you wouldn't say this.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:31 pm

believe it or not, george isn't at home
please leave a message at the beep
i must be out, or i'd pick up the phone
where could i be?
believe it or not, i'm not home
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Postby rezombad » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:23 pm

sorry i'm not home right now
i'm walking into spiderwebs
so leave a message and ill call you back
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:41 pm

A likely story

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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:05 pm

Anyone care to give me a list of the cards from RtR, GTC, and DGM that they think I should keep? I'll start:

All of the shocks
Abrupt decay
DRS
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:18 pm

I thought we decided that rev was barely going to be played in modern and it's value would drop. I want to keep the cards that will go up in value in the future and are therefore worth holding. I think d sphere is a good one. Maybe a couple copies of verdict? I can't really see 4 copies being played in modern but I could be wrong
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:18 pm

I'm kinda pissed that I didn't sell my jaces before they dropped 4 tix
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:22 pm

Just wait for Nyx, there is still time for one last spike, just don't sit on them if and when they do (like usual, greedy pig)
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:24 pm

It's half greediness and half being terrible at magic finance.

Do you mean wait to sell everything until nyx comes out?
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