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Is there a completed game where Tube was scum that I can look at? I thought he was a newbie with me in KNM.RE: Tubehunter vote - In games which he is scum, he seems to lurk a lot more and make posts that keep him in favor with the herd. I'm thinking that at least putting some pressure on him now will either net us a scummer or if he somehow is town, he'll feel the need to participate more.
Z has clearly done a lot of reading at the mafia wiki, using terms like FOS and barn. He says this is his first game, so he's either trying to look super smart, hes naturally gifted, or he's being coached.[/b
He does it again in Bioshock Mafia and whereas in KNM is clearly from a position of unfamiliarity, in Bioshock his passivity and attempts to hide in plain sight are more considered. I'm getting that vibe here. Asking Ham to post more after less than a day (when multiple others had only posted once as well)He did that fairly frequently in Kaze's Newbie Mafia. He was town in that game.Is it your normal style to post no analysis and just parrot what others say Tubehunter? You're yet to make a substantive post in this thread. Actual analysis please.
Fixed the bold tag.Coached how?Z has clearly done a lot of reading at the mafia wiki, using terms like FOS and barn. He says this is his first game, so he's either trying to look super smart, hes naturally gifted, or he's being coached.
It's a possibility, but I don't think that's what Iso was saying.Hinting at a double-voter...? What do you guys think?Fun fact: Up until Pie first voted, there were 8 different people with 1 vote each!
He's referring to another ongoing game. I never voted for him in Bioshock Mafia, I just thought he was scummy.Please dont discuss ongoing games.[/
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Bioshock Mafia is over...?
I just don't feel that Stardust is dumb enough to act so scummy. Doesn't make sense.
RE: Tubehunter vote - In games which he is scum, he seems to lurk a lot more and make posts that keep him in favor with the herd. I'm thinking that at least putting some pressure on him now will either net us a scummer or if he somehow is town, he'll feel the need to participate more.
Stardust is so scummy that he's town?
How many games have you completed with Tubehunter in which he is scum? Town?
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Ham, tell me more about the part in emphasis.I don't know enough about either player to make any real assumptions based on posting behavior. Stardust confused me by talking about a town MO. He pretty quickly got up to L-2 but didn't seem concerned. Either he's super cool under pressure or he knows that a mislynch could help reveal a scummy player on day 2.I want to hear from ham ASAP as well
Rcw: what do you think of yanni ATM? Town or no?
Pedit:ham, what do you think of stardust? How about z?
Z has clearly done a lot of reading at the mafia wiki, using terms like FOS and barn. He says this is his first game, so he'
s either trying to look super smart, hes naturally gifted, or he's being coached. He was concerned how quickly the votes ramped up on Stardust without hearing from him. Any day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum, given no strong information.
I unvoted because it seemed like people were taking my RVS vote as serious. Kaze casting a serious vote seems to have added meaning to mine.
Pregame quote from Z.I have read the article links on mtgs, can any experienced players recommend any other resources?
Where are you getting the Ham and Tube connection from?So I guess Ham, TubeHunter and ? have daychat...
What suggests this?So I guess Ham, TubeHunter and ? have daychat...
Not necessarily. I made the same assumption (that mafia always has day chat) in my first mafia game (boondocks mafia, I was town) when i felt that two players were coordinating against me and people thought it was a scumslip. this is null imoSo I guess Ham, TubeHunter and ? have daychat...
I didn't imply Z was mafia aligned, just giving my thoughts about him in response to TH asking me about him and Stardust.>implying
Pregame quote from Z.I have read the article links on mtgs, can any experienced players recommend any other resources?
I don't think him knowing about the game is enough to say that he is mafia with daychat, or being coached in any way.
Could mafia still have daychat? sure. But I dont think so right now.
What about Stardust scumslipping all over Valhalla?Any day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum, given no strong information.
I highly contest the claim that i haven't made a single "real" post. Also, I never asked ham to post more. Please think before you make claims that don't have merit to them. Also you seem to be distancing yourself from stardust more and more. Why the shift from "suspicious" to "Null"?He does it again in Bioshock Mafia and whereas in KNM is clearly from a position of unfamiliarity, in Bioshock his passivity and attemptsHe did that fairly frequently in Kaze's Newbie Mafia. He was town in that game.Is it your normal style to post no analysis and just parrot what others say Tubehunter? You're yet to make a substantive post in this thread. Actual analysis please.
to hide in plain sight are more considered. I'm getting that vibe here. Asking Ham to post more after less than a day (when multiple others had only posted once as well) caught my attention too.
Unvote, Vote Tubehunter
Undoing my RVS vote; like Suga I would like to see how Tube handles pressure. If nothing else I want to see real posts from him.
That is very confusing to me. He's either acting silly on purpose to draw information out or playing next level mind games to make people reading him as scum look scummy. The signal/noise ratio is low, so any read on him feels weak.What about Stardust scumslipping all over Valhalla?Any day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum, given no strong information.
I want to hear from ham ASAP as well
VOTE: TubeHunterAlso, I never asked ham to post more. Please think before you make claims that don't have merit to them.
So him sayingThat is very confusing to me. He's either acting silly on purpose to draw information out or playing next level mind games to make people reading him as scum look scummy. The signal/noise ratio is low, so any read on him feels weak.What about Stardust scumslipping all over Valhalla?Any day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum, given no strong information.
the town mindset impllies you think he's townbut you said you think he's town iirc[/quote:If you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address his claim."he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like thatOk, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.youWho is this directed at?also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase
I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.
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Recall again.
Actually, here's the quote:
I said I liked what he was doing. Because it was getting people to post and that leads to information.Actually, guys, I have to admit I like what Pie is doing. Not enough to call him confirmed town - nobody's done/said enough for that yet - but he's certainly getting the ball rolling. The town mindset here is that he's poking at everybody to see who flinches in a way he and other town don't like. Right now he's scumhunting more than most. The scum mindset here is that he's throwing mud on everybody to see what sticks to get a wagon going. And oh look, we have one on Stardust. Which brings me back to #2, above ^^
Then I said "nobody's done/said enough for that [call him confirmed town] yet"
Everything here is next level to me, this is my first game. He's an experienced player, so I don't know why he would mention a town MO unless he's doing it on purpose.So him saying basically 'I am trying to make sure my posts sound like something a townie would say.' is a next level mind game to you?That is very confusing to me. He's either acting silly on purpose to draw information out or playing nextWhat about Stardust scumslipping all over Valhalla?Any day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum, given no strong information.
level mind games to make people reading him as scum look scummy. The signal/noise ratio is low, so any read on him feels weak.
I disagree, but going in circles doesn't seem to be solving anything. The entire quote is there for everybody to see. I also posted the scum mindset if you read the whole thing.the town mindsetRecall again.but you said you think he's town iircIf you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address"he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like thatOk, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.youWho is this directed at?also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase
his claim.
I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.
Actually, here's the quote:
I said I liked what he was doing. Because it was getting people to post and that leads to information.Actually, guys, I have to admit I like what Pie is doing. Not enough to call him confirmed town - nobody's done/said enough for that yet - but he's certainly getting the ball rolling. The town mindset here is that he's poking at everybody to see who flinches in a way he and other town don't like. Right now he's scumhunting more than most. The scum mindset here is that he's throwing mud on everybody to see what sticks to get a wagon going. And oh look, we have one on Stardust. Which brings me back to #2, above ^^
Then I said "nobody's done/said enough for that [call him confirmed town] yet"
impllies you think he's town
I want to hear from ham ASAP as wellVOTE: TubeHunterAlso, I never asked ham to post more. Please think before you make claims that don't have merit to them.
I disagree, but going in circles doesn't seem to be solving anything. The entire quote is there for everybody to see. I also posted the scum mindset if you read the whole thing.the town mindset impllies you think he's townRecall again.but you said you think he's town iirc"he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like that[/quote:Ok, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.youWho is this directed at?also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase
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If you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address his claim.
I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.
Actually, here's the quote:
I said I liked what he was doing. Because it was getting people to post andActually, guys, I have to admit I like what Pie is doing. Not enough to call him confirmed town - nobody's done/said enough for that yet - but he's certainly getting the ball rolling. The town mindset here is that he's poking at everybody to see who flinches in a way he and other town don't like. Right now he's scumhunting more than most. The scum mindset here is that he's throwing mud on everybody to see what sticks to get a wagon going. And oh look, we have one on Stardust. Which brings me back to #2, above ^^
that leads to information.
Then I said "nobody's done/said enough for that [call him confirmed town] yet"
You're tunneling pretty hardcore here.
Because contributions are good?@ Kaze. It might be hard to believe, but I'm busy with work + CFB + mtg testing + pippy (not in that order). Why are you so anxious for me to contribute more quickly?
First to mention Daychat.So I guess Ham, TubeHunter and ? have daychat...
Do you find this to be alignment-Oh and Tubehunter left without posting.
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Or he's just, you know, scum being scum. Occam's razor and all that jazz.That is very confusing to me. He's either acting silly on purpose to draw information out or playing next level mind games to make people reading him as scum look scummy. The signal/noise ratio is low, so any read on him feels weak.What about Stardust scumslipping all over Valhalla?Any day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum, given no strong information.
Would you like to address this obvious contradiction, TubeHunter?I want to hear from ham ASAP as wellVOTE: TubeHunterAlso, I never asked ham to post more. Please think before you make claims that don't have merit to them.
Quit being a fuck.
I agree, that's how I read that post. Rcw, do you see no spectrum between "confirmed town" and scum? Usually people say "confirmed town" only on the strongest of town reads and "leaning town" or townie or something like that if they feel someone is likely town. The fact that you said no one is yet "confirmed town" did not mean to me that you thought no one was at all town. What exactly did you mean?the town mindsetRecall again.but you said you think he's town iircIf you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address"he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like thatOk, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.youWho is this directed at?also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase
his claim.
I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.
Actually, here's the quote:
I said I liked what he was doing. Because it was getting people to post and that leads to information.Actually, guys, I have to admit I like what Pie is doing. Not enough to call him confirmed town - nobody's done/said enough for that yet - but he's certainly getting the ball rolling. The town mindset here is that he's poking at everybody to see who flinches in a way he and other town don't like. Right now he's scumhunting more than most. The scum mindset here is that he's throwing mud on everybody to see what sticks to get a wagon going. And oh look, we have one on Stardust. Which brings me back to #2, above ^^
Then I said "nobody's done/said enough for that [call him confirmed town] yet"
impllies you think he's town
How about you not handwave an actual legitimate point against you?I want to hear from ham ASAP as wellVOTE: TubeHunterAlso, I never asked ham to post more. Please think before you make claims that don't have merit to them.
Im baffled. How is that asking
ham to post more? I just said I would like to hear from him.
Can we come up with some real reasons here?
You've played with yanni before, right? He's a fuck by tradeQuit being a fuck.
You were asking for evidence of you pushing Ham for content. Your jnteractions with him so far look like you're trying to build town cred.I just want to ask, why are ham and rcw aligned?
Ham has 1 post (btw post something dawg) and it seems like an rvs vote in every sense. I guess the only wierd thing is that its a bit late for it.
