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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:36 am
by Christen
I'm not really too fond of the double black cost though. I'm being ambitious on my mana as it is.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:38 am
by Kazekirimaru
This is true...meh.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:38 am
by Kazekirimaru

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:44 am
by F.I.A
[deck]BR Control-ish[/deck]

Not enough black sources? Not enough reach? I know something is missing here but I'm stumped.
Really tempted to run [card]Toil // Trouble[/card] in place of Read the Bones.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:49 am
by Christen
We'll see how it goes in testing. The choice is whether to have the power of scry-draw or a late game finisher.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:54 am
by Khaospawn
What about you, sideburns? You want some milk?


I'd rather have a beer.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:58 am
by Khaospawn
Or should I try Xsplit?
Open Broadcaster?
Yeah, OBS hates my laptop. :gonk:

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:00 am
by Khaospawn
Guys, I have something to admit.

I think I hate Burning-Tree Emissary.

There, I said it.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:07 am
by zemanjaski
I hate it to. Fucking ruined red decks for me all last season.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:07 am
by Valdarith
I'm living the dream baby! Pyromancer's Gauntlet and Chandra!

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:13 am
by Calamity
Guys, I have something to admit.

I think I hate Burning-Tree Emissary.

There, I said it.
I generally dont like decks that play it either but its good so i play it. I'm excited to not be forced to run it

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:16 am
by zemanjaski
^ same here.

It becomes a question of 'did I get my 1 in 2 draw with a BTE? If no, I'm a huge dog because I diluted my card quality to make my nutdraws better'.

And I don't like that at all.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:26 am
by F.I.A
Eh, I don't personally hate her. In trade of being a less efficient creature in comparison to cards like Ash Zealot, she makes good use of first few manas in a match. There are games where it ends up being interactions like "Player A: Creature" "Player B: Bolt it", and it's great to have something that turns that around.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:27 am
by Valdarith
I played BTE decks and non-BTE decks and much preferred the latter. Every time I played a BTE deck I felt like I was going to Vegas.

That said, I can respect what she does.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:27 am
by dpaine88
What do we think of this SCG article's Big Boros?

[deck]4 Boros Reckoner
3 Frostburn Weird
3 Stormbreath Dragon
Planeswalkers (7)

4 Chandra, Pyromaster
3 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Lands (26)

13 Mountain
4 Plains
1 Boros Guildgate
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph
Spells (17)

3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
2 Shock
3 Warleader's Helix
4 Anger of the Gods
1 Mizzium Mortars


Sideboard
4 Burning Earth
2 Wear
1 Heliod, God of the Sun
3 Glare of Heresy
2 Mizzium Mortars
3 Peak Eruption
[/deck]

In this type of deck, Espleth seems perfect.

Not a huge fan of Helix since it misses on Blood Baron and Dragon.

Wouldn't mind -1 Espleth, -1 Anger for +1 Frostburn and +1 Dragon.

I also really like Magma Jet over Shock, especially in this deck.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:29 am
by zemanjaski
I don't understand why you'd need Anger in this archetype honestly.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:30 am
by Kazekirimaru
Whoooo just bought a pauper deck

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:33 am
by dpaine88
I don't understand why you'd need Anger in this archetype honestly.

You think with all the burn the effect is overrated?

That aside, the one thing I really do want from this list I think is Espleth.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:36 am
by Khaospawn
Here's the reason why I hate BTE:

It keeps drawing me into builds like this -

4 Firecrotch Satyr
4 Rakdos Cacklover
4 Burning-Pee Emission
4 Firefister Striker
3 Young Pyromancer
4 Chandra's Phoenix
3 Fanatic of Mogis

1 Hammer of Puu-Puu Platter

4 Shocker
4 Smegma Jet
4 Lightning Strike

3 Mutavault
18 Mountain

3 Chandra, Thighmaster
3 Burning Earf
4 Mizzium Mortars
3 Act of Reason
2 Electrickery


The deck is synergistic, yes. But it's so all-in. My brain keeps telling me, "It's all the best cards!"

But the problem is, half the deck fucking blows when you're in topdeck mode. I start moving on to Ash Zealot builds and I keep getting sucked in by the Gruul cunt.

I'm pretty drunk and venting, but for the last month, something has been nagging at me about that card. I just figured it out tonight. I just don't like it.

But the thing is, for lack of a better deck, I'll
probably end up playing something like this, at least for the coming FNM. And it makes Ash Zealot a sad panda.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:40 am
by photodyer
I don't understand why you'd need Anger in this archetype honestly.
Hedging, for now. Fury + Reckoner allows another way to deal with Desecration Demon, Blood Baron, and any other 4-6 toughness creatures that would otherwise take over the game. By the same logic, you can channel Fury through Reckoner to hit a planeswalker It's a 2-for-1 for them if they don't have anything else on the field for you to kill, but in most cases you can get parity if not relative card advantage.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:42 am
by Jack
Guess whose LGS is running modern for the first FNM after rotation? Yup. Not sure who thought that'd be a good idea.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:50 am
by Valdarith
I'm running this until rotation. Zem would be proud!

[deck]
Creatures (12)
4 Ash Zealot
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Chandra's Phoenix

Spells (24)
4 Shock
1 Pillar of Flame
4 Searing Spear
4 Mizzium Mortars
3 Brimstone Volley
3 Flames of the Firebrand
3 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Pyromancer's Gauntlet

Lands (24)
4 Hellion Crucible
20 Mountain

Sideboard (15)
3 Pillar of Flame
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
3 Frostburn Weird
2 Traitorous Blood
3 Burning Earth
[/deck]

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:52 am
by Kazekirimaru
Buying a pauper deck I have never piloted before was probably not my brightest moment...

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:06 am
by Calamity
For those that care about the lady situation:

The lady and I have worked things out; we talked and she apologized for what happened, she talked to the guy and told him she's staying with me. I haven't talked to the guy yet but I probably won't be able to stay friends with him, at least no to the extent we were before.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:08 am
by windstrider
Stupid combo/synergy:
Burning-tree Emissary chain + Fanatic of Mogis + [card]Legion's Initiative[/card]

Difficult to pull off with the mana required, but stupid amount of damage potential. Bonus extra mana from Emissary can be used for creatures, burn, or an overloaded Mortars.
Unfortunately, that suggestion for sorcery speed like Mortars won't work, since those creatures will be returning at the start of the combat phase to make use of the mana. Still, I guess it can still curve out from BTE > Legion &
gt; Mogis for massive damage.
Well, nuts. That part completely slipped right by me. :frown:

In that case, Zealot, Reckoner, and Phoenix are better devotion enablers for the Fanatic for the types of decks I usually prefer. As many times as I try, I just can't bring myself to drop Ash Zealot. The deck wouldn't feel right without her.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:09 am
by Valdarith
I HAVE THE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!!!

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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:14 am
by windstrider
For those that care about the lady situation:

The lady and I have worked things out; we talked and she apologized for what happened, she talked to the guy and told him she's staying with me. I haven't talked to the guy yet but I probably won't be able to stay friends with him, at least no to the extent we were before.
That is good to hear, Calamity. I'm glad you won't have that additional stress in your life.

You mentioned not liking to communicate by text message with her, so is video chat an option at all? Most laptops have cameras built into them, and simple cameras for desktop systems aren't that expensive. It's a richer mode of communication than text-only.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:15 am
by zemanjaski
:'(

Tears of pride.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:04 am
by dpaine88
Anyone else going to the Star City Open in Worcester this weekend?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:25 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Why is everyone ragging on BTE? She's another sexy lady that lets you do some naughty things. Just a shame she doesn't get along with Ashley...

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:28 am
by Kazekirimaru
She's tainted.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:32 am
by F.I.A
@valdarith: That 5 damage per turn potential. Still, why Hellion Crucible instead of Mutavault?

BTE or Ashley: It depends on the deck list. I still like latter, even if she sometimes slug at me for flashbacking that Faithless Looting.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:47 am
by Alex
I am pretty tired of testing Modern on Cockatrice, nobody there plays actual decks, they just play decks with 30 removal spells, 10 counterspells, and 20 land, it feels like. It's some of the most boring Magic I've ever had to sit through.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:48 am
by lorddax
So while my last combo was horrible...here's one that I want to look at building around.

Fabled Hero + Madcap Skills. Two turn clock if you smash it out early.

Boros sligh?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:56 am
by Kazekirimaru
6/3 double striker? :notbad:

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:36 am
by F.I.A
So while my last combo was horrible...here's one that I want to look at building around.

Fabled Hero + Madcap Skills. Two turn clock if you smash it out early.

Boros sligh?
There's Fencing Ace for a lower curve. Granted, you cannot do silly things with it like using Spark Jolt on a Fabled Hero.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:15 am
by RedNihilist
Also, Two-Headed Cerberus is not that good, but fits in a Boros Auras deck...

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:19 am
by LP, of the Fires
I've been saying BTE is horrible since I stopped playing gruul. She forces you to not run the best red two-drop ever.

And with that said...back to working on batman jund.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:34 am
by Sasky
For those that care about the lady situation:

The lady and I have worked things out; we talked and she apologized for what happened, she talked to the guy and told him she's staying with me. I haven't talked to the guy yet but I probably won't be able to stay friends with him, at least no to the extent we were before.
I think this is the best outcome. I hope this little ordeal strengthens your relationship.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:34 am
by Sasky
BTE is teh nuts tits in modern gruul zoo. Anyone who played that deck can never hate her.