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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:57 am
by Thrillho
Clan approved posters should be good?

I mean if they shady it up if we have their address they'll get the FoS beat down
we have to assume you won't be the only clan here forever.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:59 am
by Second Harkius
Clan approved posters should be good?

I mean if they shady it up if we have their address they'll get the FoS beat down
we have to assume you won't be the only clan here forever.
wasn't there a "Gang" clan or something that got booted off of Sally? whatever happened to those guys?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:01 am
by ( G_R )
Admin vouch? That seems more feasible. :trolo:

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:02 am
by Jack
I think that we actually might have an easier option if we wanted to get trades going. We could just create a community on deckbox.org (our cardtags are already linked there, so it seems like a good place). Anyone can make one, and they have a feedback system, so that would take care of the trust issue. DAE think this is a good idea?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:28 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
I'd be fine with 1,000, but that's pretty steep so if the majority wants 500 I'm down for that I s'pose. :thumbsup:
666 for internet satans love for trades

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:53 am
by Kazekirimaru
So, it looks like I won't be able to use such a trade forum for a while. Pft. Well then. Clan trades it is.

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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:55 am
by Kazekirimaru
I don't really mind, though.

I hear you're all magumbos, anyway.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:14 am
by ( G_R )
Well, bitching about post count restrictions is another way to increase your post count, so GJ! :hifive:

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 am
by Second Harkius
Well, bitching about post count restrictions is another way to increase your post count, so GJ! :hifive:
this should be our auto-response for each time this comes up in the future

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:16 am
by Second Harkius
4500 posts!

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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:19 am
by Kazekirimaru
Well, bitching about post count restrictions is another way to increase your post count, so GJ! :hifive:
It seems you're uncovered my plan!

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:52 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
So, it looks like I won't be able to use such a trade forum for a while. Pft. Well then. Clan trades it is.

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21 days Almost 200 posts
Its more then likely this wont be set until another month or so cause well Members needed too.
You don't think you wont hit 500+?

Seriously why complain about a limit that's being made to help save you later of people that just come to rip?
+1 post

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:58 am
by Kazekirimaru
So, it looks like I won't be able to use such a trade forum for a while. Pft. Well then. Clan trades it is.

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21 days Almost 200 posts
Its more then likely this wont be set until another month or so cause well Members needed too.
You don't think you wont hit 500+?

Seriously why complain about a limit that's being made to help save you later of people that just come to rip?
+1 post
Why are you and everyone else making a big deal
of me making a big deal when I'm not really making a big deal at all? ;-)

I stopped caring like, two pages ago. I just felt like making a meme picture.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:22 pm
by Kaitscralt
But it wasnt just a meme picture, was it.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:38 pm
by Azrael
I like the idea of having a post limit - 1000 is much too high, and even 500 is pushing it. For most people, it takes a very long span of time to amass that. 100 posts might be more reasonable - still enough to deter lazy rippers to find a site with no post limit (such as Sally), but pulls in the large majority of casual members who don't post on a daily basis.

The sample trading rules are ok, but could use some refining.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:28 pm
by Manders
I like the idea of having a post limit - 1000 is much too high, and even 500 is pushing it. For most people, it takes a very long span of time to amass that. 100 posts might be more reasonable - still enough to deter lazy rippers to find a site with no post limit (such as Sally), but pulls in the large majority of casual members who don't post on a daily basis.

The sample trading rules are ok, but could use some refining.
Could you refine them for us? You are the resident lawyer, after all. ;)

So, Kaze got 200 posts in 21 days, and I feel like I barely know him. (Of course, I don't read FoS, which is where I imagine he got most of them.) Based on that, I don't
think 500 is too much. I don't think a couple of months dedication is too much to ask.

A question, though, that I think we should know the answer to, is how many people would actually trade on-site if the option was available? Can an admin add a poll to this thread, so we can find out? I don't appear to be able to.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:49 pm
by Checkbox
I would trade, probably.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:53 pm
by Azrael
I like the idea of having a post limit - 1000 is much too high, and even 500 is pushing it. For most people, it takes a very long span of time to amass that. 100 posts might be more reasonable - still enough to deter lazy rippers to find a site with no post limit (such as Sally), but pulls in the large majority of casual members who don't post on a daily basis.

The sample trading rules are ok, but could use some refining.
Could you refine them for us? You are the resident lawyer, after all. ;)

So, Kaze got
200 posts in 21 days, and I feel like I barely know him. (Of course, I don't read FoS, which is where I imagine he got most of them.) Based on that, I don't think 500 is too much. I don't think a couple of months dedication is too much to ask.

A question, though, that I think we should know the answer to, is how many people would actually trade on-site if the option was available? Can an admin add a poll to this thread, so we can find out? I don't appear to be able to.
Keep in mind that people who post as much as we do are the exception, not the rule. If you've taken a stroll down Market street, there are an awful lot of people there who don't post very much (but are still legit traders).

I could certainly revise the trading rules.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:17 pm
by Second Harkius
100 is way too low.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:26 pm
by Kaitscralt
The point is not to have people just posting in their trade thread, Az.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:40 pm
by Second Harkius
I like the idea of having a post limit - 1000 is much too high, and even 500 is pushing it. For most people, it takes a very long span of time to amass that. 100 posts might be more reasonable - still enough to deter lazy rippers to find a site with no post limit (such as Sally), but pulls in the large majority of casual members who don't post on a daily basis.

The sample trading rules are ok, but could use some refining.
I don't think a couple of months dedication is too much to ask.
It's not too much to ask. The problem is that many people in the
entitlement generation don't want to be asked to do anything at all.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:40 pm
by Second Harkius
"I took the time to register, GIMME MAH TRADEZ"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:41 pm
by Second Harkius
If this site is about cultivating a higher level of discussion we should, ya know, cultivate that discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:43 pm
by Thrillho
"do you have the cards i want?"
"yes, do you have the cards i want?"
"yes. here is my address."
"good, here is my address."
Awesome Talk, Great Job!

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:55 pm
by ( G_R )
Why are you and everyone else making a big deal of me making a big deal when I'm not really making a big deal at all? ;-)
Nobody is. We cast Fucks Ungiven on every post, thanks to an infinite recursion combo. :teach:

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:55 pm
by redthirst
I wouldn't expect you to understand, Spam.

1000 posts probably doesn't look like a lot to the guy who makes a minimum of 3-4 posts per thought...

:rolleyes:

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:57 pm
by Second Harkius
I wouldn't expect you to understand, Spam.

1000 posts probably doesn't look like a lot to the guy who makes a minimum of 3-4 posts per thought...

:rolleyes:
3-4 posts per thought is accurate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:57 pm
by Second Harkius
i am not sure if you needed this smiley

:rolleyes:


normally it is only reserved for extreme bouts of snarkiness

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:58 pm
by Second Harkius
like wrestlers don't use their finishing move right when the match begins

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:58 pm
by Second Harkius
but we have moved from 1000 posts down to 500

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:59 pm
by redthirst
That's good.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:59 pm
by redthirst
Now I can trade.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:00 pm
by Second Harkius
which is totally reasonable unless you are a member of the entitlement generation

in which case you want government handouts, stuff for free, and someone to wipe your butt

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:00 pm
by redthirst
Of course, even if it was 1000 I could just post like you.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:00 pm
by redthirst
And I'd be there in no time!

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:00 pm
by Second Harkius
Now I can trade.
exactly! the issue no longer applies to you so why care anymore?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:07 pm
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
The point is not to have people just posting in their trade thread, Az.
This is a Major thing.

Be nice to have ACTUAL members and not just trade thread sitters.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:40 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I can't help but notice that all the people for the high post requirement already meet that requirement. :rolleyes:

But, regardless, I fail to see the correlation between post count and personal integrity, and that's what bugs me about the proposition. I feel like the vouch system would work with a bit of tweaking. It would deter random rippers from exploiting people, while allowing those with credibility to trade. The vouchers could be designated. Staff, clan leaders, things like that. Tweaking and such. I'm not so good with specifics.

Ah, looks like I still care about this topic a bit, after all.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:44 pm
by Helios
This post count rule only applies to creating a trade thread, correct?

I'll just be sticking to clan trades for now anyway, but I can't see how post count correlates to reliability. Like, what's the difference between my 250 now and the 500 posts I'll have eventually?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:47 pm
by redthirst
This post count rule only applies to creating a trade thread, correct?
I believe trading in general.