Dies to Removal

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@Zem, just talking shit and babbling to just hear yourself talk is crappy posting at it's core. Why do you keep repeating yourself (crappy posts)? Not getting the answers you want from me? I poste anything these days and you call it crappy posting.
Thus why bother responding anymore to scum, mental priming. "trying to speed the game up" is a classic means for scum to survive as town folks are at risk more when they make hasty, primed decisions. Looking at the opposite perspective, Zem could really be trying to get scum to slip up as freedom did. Will still be watching Zem closely.

This is my first game and do not expect special treatment. - snip -

but I am new

The bolded parts look weird to me.

I asked you questions you haven't answered. Are you really going to avoid them because I might criticize the answers?

Any post not worshiping your "briliiance" looks weird to you. D your own f'ing research to find out.

I somehow missed the question post. Ok, I can see you have never actually done any
police work. A good LEO listens for the while, watches the first ones to speak, checks responses from others, and waits for evidence. No crime has been commited yet. It's still the first day. I would say it's a feel good session to make any big claims but...freedom. Yeah, not the brightest post. Generally, the loadest one screaming "look at someone else" is the scum. Letting the supstect talk themselves into a corner is nuub level interrogation skills. Your personality screams talk to appear the smartest guy in the room, thus a broad claim that scum hide in the shadows is missleading. The alternative is so overt; it's covert

We haven't heard from some in a great amount for analysis.

OK, you're frustrated town. Thanks I think you can leave the personal attacks for the clan thread though, I am very happy to take it up there or in PM.

FYI scum to hide in the
shadows in mafia, there are lots of articles on it.

[pedit]Wraith, yes I am a lawyer. And I would disagree that talking gets you in to trouble. I don't work in criminal law, I am a commercial laywer so it is a different mindset. It's my job to get people talking and agreeing.

I think not talking broadly benefits scum. If no one says anything, then we'll never find them. Thoughts?

I agree with you that freedom now finds himself in a difficult position. An alternative for him to avoid being the lynch toDay would be to find someone more scummy that we can lynch instead.

I wanted to see how people would react and I got four great reactions to start working through tomorrow. Couldn't have worked out better.

I think not talking broadly benefits scum. If no one says anything, then we'll never find them. Thoughts?

pedit: I noticed freedom, doclawless, zemanjawski and imopen2 come and go without saying anything after i naked voted lmd.

Rez do you think I'm scum?

if z is town I guarantee there's scum on the wagon regardless. Starbuck could possibly be some scum mastermind, in which case we're all fucked anyway. imopen isn't reading as townie as Ragnarok, but I can call him townish for now. it's probably Wraith in that case.

if z is town I guarantee there's scum on the wagon regardless. Starbuck could possibly be some scum mastermind, in which case we're all fucked anyway. imopen isn't reading as townie as Ragnarok, but I can call him townish for now. it's probably Wraith in that case.

If z is town, wraith is scum? What if z is scum?

if Z is scum I'd go after GR next based off current info, could change depending who'
s on the lynching wagon.

Rezombad

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I wanted to see how people would react and I got four great reactions to start working through tomorrow. Couldn't have worked out better.

Why not start working through them now? i see that you do start later.

What reactions were you hoping to get, exactly?[/quote]

Anything really. I wanted people to start interacting with me. I wasn't really expecting Ham to turn around with "you got me, but you'll not get the rest of our gang!". I didn't get much in the way of scum tells, but I now have town reads on a few posters and that is something. Having never made a gambit before I wasn't sure what to expect beyond people flipping out, and they did, so mission
accomplished

Why did you say your claim was a joke, then continue to push Stardust to try to get him to claim cop?

If your 'gambit' was obviously fake, how are any reactions that you did get valuable? What are you looking for?

I wanted to test Stardust to see what she would say. Admitting to being a cop to counter-claim probably isn't worth it for town (1 unknown cop seems to be worth more than a mafia death to me); but I could be wrong here. If SD had turned around and hard claimed cop, I would be very suspicious of SD - because I don't think such a claim benefits town. SD not making a hard claim, in my estimation, benefits town.

How is a facepalm to your now admittedly fake claim the most town thing possible? Wouldn't the most town thing be to lynch the liar?
aside: I just
finished a game where we didn't lynch the 'lol fakeclaim'ing person and they ended up being scum.

This is a complete misrep. I clearly started in Post 62 "I do like that you immediately acknowledge that its a fake claim. I think that is the most pro-town response possible." Imopen sees the gambit for what it is and acknowledges it then moves on, presumably to scum hunting. That's pro-town. Much more pro-town than posters trying to waste time with analysis like "isn't it zem's second game? He wouldn't do that!" or even worse "he didn't play like this in Ragnarok mafia, surely his first game defines his style forever!.

Why are you bothering to ask ham to deny your accusation when 2 posts prior to his you admit to fake claiming?

Because it feels weird that he didn't respond to it at all.

If you honestly believe someone scumslipped, why not focus on getting that person lynched
rather than trying "to find someone more scummy that we can lynch instead."

Because I don't actually believe tham Freedom is scum now. We put some pressure on him, I felt he gave honest and pro-town feeling responses, especially for a fist game player. I didn't want to die in my first game either, you kinda want to see how far you can go. I sense genuine concern from Freedom about being a mislynch. His response is genuine to me.

Do keep posting Simpon's pics.

Unvote, Freedom

Vote, Zem

there's no way he isn't scum

I knew I was forgetting something. vote zem

if he dies D1 in his first two games, I'm going to laugh. and kinda feel bad if I'm being bad at reading him and he's actually town.

I can't get mad when you post such great pics...

Seriously though, it is pretty scummy to deflect like that, please answer the question or go on record as saying you won't answer it.

@ DocLawless: why should I care if I get nightkilled by scum? If I find someone day 1, trading 1-for-1 is very good for Town. Remember I don't need to survive for town to win, I just need to kill all scum.

@ Doc. I want to ask some more questions, but can you confirm for me this is your first game? I seem to remember it was, but I could be getting confused (lots of new players in this game).

Thanks.