Dies to Removal

Right, I RVS'd someone thinking that I'd draw some reactions because RVS was over. Isn't that obvious from my explanation?

Glad to know I was on-target. The town rationale is the same as what I stated about Pie.

However, the town rationale is the same as what I stated about Pie. Which means the scum rationale is to do something that others perceive as townish.

WIFOM, though, at this point. Suffice it to say IGMEOY.

Preview EDIT: Stardust made a new post. This post still applies.

also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase

Who is this directed at?

you

I did comment on Pie's "assumptions", and I think they're much different than what you're doing. His play has been a WIFOM-laden mess which I'm not likely to forget, but it's a mess I can't yet read. I still think I've got a decent read on you.

I figured this was fairly safe since they both align with my standard town MO

unvote votestardust

unvote stardust claims he's at l-2, true?

Also, the following quote is a scumslip. You are admitting to trying to
act town.

I figured this was fairly safe since they both align with my standard town MO

Making sure my gambit is believable enough from town me. That's pretty important.

Remember the last time you said that your vote wasn't moving off of me? What did I flip? You can't read me, rezombad. I'd still like a full case from you.

I think I'm starting to understand why Kaze got so frustrated with you guys in Bioshock. You just latch onto something and don't give a second thought (except to confirm your bias).

also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase

Who is this directed at?

you

Ok, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.

unvote votestardust

unvote stardust claims he's at l-2, true?

Was this a test for double-voters? You vote me based on one of the first posts in this thread, then unvote me 1 minute later based on one of the last posts in this thread. That's too fast.

Also, the following quote is a scumslip. You are admitting to trying to act town.

I figured this was fairly safe since they both align with my standard town MO

Not acting. Making sure my gambit is believable enough from town me. That's pretty important.

unvote votestardust

unvote stardust claims he's at l-2, true?

Was this a test for double-voters? You vote me based on one of the first posts in this thread, then unvote me 1 minute later based on one of
the last posts in this thread. That's too fast.

Color me crazy, but I'm reading Stardust as town. I'm actually thinking that votes on ham may be in order. It's a gut feeling, but I feel pretty strongly about it.

also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase

Who is this directed at?

you[/
quote]
Ok, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.

"he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like that

If you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address his claim.

I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.

Color me crazy, but I'm reading Stardust as town. I'm actually thinking that votes on ham may be in order. It's a gut feeling, but I feel pretty strongly about it.

What posts are you using to clear him as town?

There's not one specific post that clears him, per se, but I can see what he's doing and it looks like it comes from a town motivation.

unvote
vote: imopen2

defending ham + weird justification for Stardust vote + lack of reaction to miller claim = trying to blend in surreptitiously and hope no one calls him out

ham + rcw + imopen scumteam, gg game broken.

unvote
vote: imopen2

defending ham + weird justification for Stardust vote + lack of reaction to miller claim = trying to blend in
surreptitiously and hope no one calls him out

ham + rcw + imopen scumteam, gg game broken.

wow, more assumptive than I thought. I wouldn't need to defend ham if you weren't making unfounded accusations against him. there's nothing "weird" about my stardust vote, and I recognized your miller claim. "dokay" means I don't believe you.

your scumteam reads are terrible. care to explain them? it might be fun

Stardust votes rcw for always being scum or w/e
ham votes Stardust
???
scumbuddies!

So your a miller, that could mean any number of things, what is there to discuss about it?

um... is there an alternative Miller that you've played with before or something?

this is very assumptive of you. votes on stardust are legit until he returns and answers our questions

Unvote, Vote Stardust[/
b]


Miller, huh? Dokay...

I want to hear from ham ASAP as well

Rcw: what do you think of yanni ATM? Town or no?

Pedit:ham, what do you think of stardust? How about z?

Rcw: what do you think of yanni ATM? Town or no?

Is it your normal style to post no analysis and just parrot what others say Tubehunter? You're yet to make a substantive post in this thread. Actual analysis please.

Aside: I'm noticing a lot of posts with friendly language towards me now, or subtle encouragement. Don't think that will work.

For now Stardust is null to me; seen stuff that goes both ways.

[pedit]@imopen2 I do have more but it's 530am and pip's not happy I'm on my phone. I've made notes overnight, will post when I can get to a computer.

Is it your normal style to post no analysis and just parrot what others say Tubehunter? You're yet to make a substantive post in this thread. Actual analysis please.

For now Stardust is null to me; seen stuff that goes both ways.

Fun fact: Up until Pie first voted, there were 8 different people with 1 vote each!

Don't have a computer at the moment so ill take notes and write questions tomorrow. In the meantime I will answer questions put to me.

All voting needs to stop until we hear from Stardust.

Actually, guys, I have to admit I like what Pie is doing. Not enough to call him confirmed town - nobody's done/said enough for that yet - but he's certainly getting the ball rolling. The town mindset here is that he's poking at everybody to see who flinches in a way he and other town don't like. Right now he's scumhunting more than most. The scum mindset here is that he's throwing mud on everybody to see what sticks to get a wagon going. And oh look, we have one on Stardust. Which brings me back to #2, above ^^

Stardust remarking on his role is null; he does this as both alignments.

First up, the only game on this site that I've been scum was KNM. I said nothing about a role there (and claimed vanilla). As far as I can recall, the only time I've ever said anything about my role was when I replaced into Bioshock (where I was town). So what are you basing that comment on?

Anyhow, Stardust, if you agree James sounds odd, why are you RVSing instead of voting him?

Partly because RVS is fun, partly because I get the feeling zeman's going to stay involved no matter what (so I can wait to get more info rather than push a weak wagon), partly because I wanted to give rcw something to respond to, and partly because I wanted to see who would call me on that post (and how they did so). That last bit was obviously more effective than I expected, though the whole "RVS is anti-town" was glossed over much more than I expected. I figured you, Kaze, would be going after me for that in particular.

In the meantime I think this is in order-

Unvote;

Vote: Stardust

Why didn't you start my wagon instead of jumping on only after it picked up steam?

rezombad is town
imopen leans town
Pie is conflicted
James leans scum
Stardust is scum
The rest of you I dunno yet.

Poke some holes in my reads and see what flows out.

1) I like your read on Pie. If you want to ask me why, you have to explain why it's conflicted first.
2) Why is imopen
leaning town?

so you and pie are scumbuddies with Stardust and possibly zem

Reading back, maybe it's not that obvious, so I'll elaborate on this.

My first post contained two minorly scummy things and one out of the ordinary thing in that I was commenting on my role. Those three things were all intentional with the hope of getting reactions. The first scummy thing was calling zemanjaski
scummy, then voting someone else. The second was RVS voting after RVS was over. I figured this was fairly safe since they both align with my standard town MO - 1) Wait to get more info, and 2) RVS is actually really useful. Waiting to get more info is exactly what I wanted from zemanjaski, so I was more interested in branching out to other players. The easy way to do that was to force someone to get involved by voting for them - rcw in this case, since I've played with him as scum before and thought I might stand a decent shot at reading him correctly.

Also, the following quote is a scumslip. You are admitting to trying to act town.

I figured this was fairly safe since they both align with my standard town MO

Please dont discuss ongoing games.

Actually, totally veering off my former line of thinking. I'm making a meta vote here
unvote
vote tubehunter

also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase

Who is this directed at?

you

Ok, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.

"he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like that

If you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address his claim.

I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.

unvote votestardust

unvote stardust claims he's at l-2, true?[/
quote]
Was this a test for double-voters? You vote me based on one of the first posts in this thread, then unvote me 1 minute later based on one of the last posts in this thread. That's too fast.

Give me more than that. I've heard you're quick, but not that quick.

no like you're using something that is so bullshitty that's it's near artifice levels of stupid

I just don't feel that Stardust is dumb enough to act so scummy. Doesn't make sense.

also how you're so willing to accept his claim like pelase

Who is this directed at?

you

Ok, cool. In that case please quote where I accept his claim. Because I don't remember doing it.

"he's not confirmed town but he's probably town" or something like that

If you go re-read that, I actually said that nobody has done or said enough to warrant a confirmed town nod from me. In no way does that address his claim.

I know this is a game of reading between the lines, but that's a huge stretch.

but you said you think he's town iirc

Actually, guys, I have to admit I like what Pie is doing. Not enough to call him
confirmed town - nobody's done/said enough for that yet - but he's certainly getting the ball rolling. The town mindset here is that he's poking at everybody to see who flinches in a way he and other town don't like. Right now he's scumhunting more than most. The scum mindset here is that he's throwing mud on everybody to see what sticks to get a wagon going. And oh look, we have one on Stardust. Which brings me back to #2, above ^^

I want to hear from ham ASAP as well

Rcw: what do you think of yanni ATM? Town or no?

Pedit:ham, what do you think of stardust? How about z?