[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Pendulum]

Did your tests use the sideboards? I'm not sure but it looks like the matchup gets a lot less awkward once you've sided out the Pyromancers or Strikers.

[hamfactorial]

Can someone make a card for me?

Hodor Sliver - [mana]2[/mana]

Sliver creatures you control are copies of this creature and lose all abilities.

"Hodor, Hodor, Hodor, Hodor"

0/1

[Kazekirimaru]

Hodor should be at least two toughness.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Did your tests use the sideboards? I'm not sure but it looks like the matchup gets a lot less awkward once you've sided out the Pyromancers or Strikers.

Don't want any cards that are bad against jund in the MD really.

Hellrider was also sorely missed.

[Khaospawn]

Due to a virus, I just had to do a critical recovery on my computer. Fuck.

[LP, of the Fires]

Dat porn.

[Khaospawn]

Dat porn.

True story.

Incentive to restart the Ham Challenge? I think so.

[TubeHunter]

tsk, tsk

[Khaospawn]

Why is something so awesome so bad for me!?

[Kazekirimaru]

Why is something so awesome so bad for me!?

Such is life.

-Takes another bite of bacon wrapped butter-

[hamfactorial]

Kaze:

I haven't unleashed my controversial paleo nutrition beliefs on the forum yet, but my hat is tipped to your chosen "vice".

[Solemn10]

Did your tests use the sideboards? I'm not sure but it looks like the matchup gets a lot less awkward once you've sided out the Pyromancers or Strikers.

Siding out the pyromancers and strikers would be a bad idea as there are no creatures to side in for them. If you side them out, I doubt you'll get there before huntmaster and thragtusk do their thing... Unless you draw multiple skullcracks.

[TubeHunter]

Bacon wrapped butter......

[TubeHunter]

Right on time

[DroppinSuga]

I never know what the fuck you're talking about.

[TubeHunter]

Thats part of my charm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbJ4qLiMu0

[Nuwen]

Turned $20 store credit into $65 cash prize. Not as profitable as poker but you keep more friends this way.

[Kazekirimaru]

Kaze:

I haven't unleashed my controversial paleo nutrition beliefs on the forum yet, but my hat is tipped to your chosen "vice".

It's the manlier version of a breath mint.

[LP, of the Fires]

If anyone wants to read my ramblings, I was exceptionally board today viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1368

[zemanjaski]

Very nice. I need to write something delving into red deck theory, for example, how arc trail compares to mind rot etc; lots if different little theoretical considerations that aren't obvious (eg: the explanation of the goodstuffred deck that couldn't lose a red mirror).

[LP, of the Fires]

Sounds good.

Also, How to make the RUG delver player scoop when playing ANT strom. G2, he probes you seeing a hand of probe, cabal ritual, LED, double carpet of Flowers, Land, and ponder. Guessing He was holding a hand of dazes, spell pierces, and otherwise trumped counterspells.

[Platypus]

LP, I enjoyed the deck building post. But shouldn't it be posted in the Magic Fundamentals -> Strategy and Theory section?

[LP, of the Fires]

WHATEVER

James, you're a mod right? Move that shit

[zemanjaski]

Too hard on my phone.

[zemanjaski]

Modern:

4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Goblin Chieftain
4 Goblin Guide
4 Legion Loyalist

4 Boros Charm
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Krenko's Command
3 Shared Animosity

4 Arid Mesa
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Scalding Tarn

4 Mountain
1 Plains

Want to look at the black splash as well (Knucklebone Witch; Mad Auntie).

Also versions with Warren Instigator!

[LP, of the Fires]

Don't think charm adds much to the deck. Yeah, wrath protection, but there aren't really that many supreme verdicts running around and it's unlikely you're in a spot to play around electrolyze. I'd rather grenade bitches myself. Knucklebone/auntie is interesting however. Auntie's like...the worst hedge as an extra chieftan/wardriver, but I've won to many games with her in modern masters to care and being a hard lord affect is solid. Knucklebone doesn't have much upside in this type of deck, but being a one drop, that doesn't actually mean anything.

[zemanjaski]

I mean, if Knucklebone randomly becomes a 2/2 or 3/3 then it's just crazy in this deck. Kinda silly that that's all you need haha. Maybe I just want Gargadon and mono R. That's wrath insurance as well (and technically a mana sink!).

[zemanjaski]

Spike Jester as well in black.

[Platypus]

There's currently a discussion on one of the local Magic forums about Modern Goblins. I'm not registered there, so I won't comment in the thread, but the discussion about Shared Animosity got me thinking. A couple of posters don't understand the appeal of Shared Animosity, saying it a pure win-more card and Goblin Grenade is the way to go, because that and Lightning Bolt give more reach. While I can agree that SA can be a win-more card in several situations, I'm not convinced that GG is the better choice. Any thoughts on that?

[LP, of the Fires]

Goblin grenade is more consistent, but I think both cards have merit. Animosity looks win more, but there are actually board states where it's the only card that wins the game. If you're playing animosity and spikeshot elder in your deck because of animosity, THAT'S close to win more and more of a "the danger of cute things" type of situation.

Grenade is also amazing though. I've used both cards together to kill an affinity player that was at way to much life from having ravager "equip" his board state to his vault skirge and I untapped, slammed animosity down, swung, then grenade his ass to death.

[Platypus]

I think it might come down to playstyle really, like the discussion about FotF vs BV in the RDW thread. If there was a way to have both SA and GG in the deck, that would be cool. But I don't think that can be done, at least not without dropping a few Bolts. And SA together with Loyalist is sweet because of the First Strike and Trample.

Perhaps:

2x Lightning Bolt
3x Shared Animosity
3x Goblin Grenade

instead of:

4x Lightning Bolt
4x Shared Animosity/Goblin Grenade

[LP, of the Fires]

Bolt isn't actually a sacred cow in this deck. It's reasonable to play grenade instead. Also, I'm on episode 260ish of One Piece and I really like franky mostly because he has 2 ho's with square afros. Watching them walk sideways in the wind was pretty funny.

[Platypus]

Dropped a version in the brewing thread, but it might be too spell-heavy...

[Lightning_Dolt]

I sometimes play modern goblins. My list is:

[deck]Land (20)
12 Mountain
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Mutavault

Creatures (28)
4 Goblin Guide
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Goblin Wardriver
4 Goblin Chieftain
3 Goblin King
1 Krenko, Mob Boss

Spells (12)
4 Aether Vial
4 Goblin Grenade
4 Lightning Bolt

Sideboard (15)
4 Blood Moon
4 Arc Trail
4 Pyrite Spellbomb
3 Mark of Mutiny[/deck]

[Nuwen]

If anyone wants to read my ramblings, I was exceptionally board today viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1368

Enjoyed over morning coffee, thank you. This community is flush with quality posts about thinking processes, decision maps, and honest self-analysis.

[Yarpus]

I dunno how red decks handle midrange without Stonewright. Tested RDW against my GB brew. 0-5.
I always tried to keep decent hands without muligans. I have to admit that twice, I kept very beatdown hands on Red (and in this matchup Red can't do beatdown). Red couldn't handle all the 3/3 GB played.

[Alex]

I'll move your thread, gimmie a sec.

[Jack]

How successful are you, Johnny? It looks like you're just trying to play Legacy Goblins with only new-bordered cards.
And James, I think we'd all appreciate another theory article from you. I just re-read your RDW primer out of boredom, and it's still fantastic. It's probably the best primer I've ever read, since it really goes beyond the cards and goes into the theory, strategy and history of the deck. 10/10, would recommend.
LP, I'm checking your article out as well. Behind all of your swag is the brain of one of the most intelligent Magic players I've ever known. I guess that's one more thing for you to add to the wall of ego that is your Sally sig.

[lorddax]

Red couldn't handle all the 3/3 GB played.

Legion Loyalist + Dynacharge or Firefist Striker or Pyreheart

When playing decks that have better pound creatures you have to evaluate your lines at least one turn out to know where you can squeeze the damage in. In some matches you are the worse beat down deck so you really need to make sure your SB allows you to take a bit more of the control role.

[Link]

between pyreheart wolf, firefist triker and hellrider burst red has decent options

thinking about taking mutared tonight because I picked up my pyromancer playset and I miss me some pyreheart+hellrider shenanifans

damnt lordax phone posting too slow