I think his angle is much more likely to come from town than scum, which is more than enough for me right now. As scum his efforts and conclusion don't make sense, because there were easier options available to him.you think he's town because of THAT post?
Well now this town is completely fucked gg
lol you're cute.This is some pretty nice slandering.is it just me or is this admitting to future tunneling@manders I tend to focus on one or two people at a time, so I genuinely did not have anything to say about them
You can me my #2 scumread just for this shit
That's a good enough contribution for awhile
I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Not anyone, just those three. The only thing I'm not sure about is which one I'm most sure about, if you get my meaning. I'm currently least sure about Kaze, but I'm happy to vote either imopen2 or GR.
My vote for him was as much to elicit a reaction as it was because that post I quoted was scummy. He was never a very strong scum read for me, made a bit less so by his responses to me.@Stardust - Despite voting Khaddafi earlier, you don't mention him in the post below. What was your reason for unvoting him?
Мы, темнотеwho the fuck is kpaca?
I don't care for your definition of contributing, so I'll just do what I want, kthx.@ Tom: It's time to start contributing to the game. Let's start with whether you are for or against a name claim.
I've voted for a scum read until he did something town, then proceeded to vote for a different scum read. Reads evolve with the game state. That aside, what you're trying to say I'm doing doesn't even make sense as a scum play: why does scum unvote a wagon that's coming to fruition?I don't like that Nuwen keeps dragging the town around by the nose. She says one thing, then backpedals, then decides she doesn't like her own wagons and pushes, then tries to fish another claim out of someone else. The G_R wagon is stalling. Let's lynch Nuwen.
Unvote, Vote Nuwen
Final vote for the Day.
It's pretty easy to stick your finger in the river and see which direction the current pulls. If you think the wagon isn't going anywhere and you're scum, why not start a new one to get information?I've voted for a scum read until he did something town, then proceeded to vote for a different scum read. Reads evolve with the game state. That aside, what you're trying to say I'm doing doesn't even make sense as a scum play: why does scum unvote a wagon that'sI don't like that Nuwen keeps dragging the town around by the nose. She says one thing, then backpedals, then decides she doesn't like her own wagons and pushes, then tries to fish another claim out of someone else. The G_R wagon is stalling. Let's lynch Nuwen.
Unvote, Vote Nuwen
Final vote for the Day.
coming to fruition?
Wouldn't you agree that scum are generally content with any given mislynch? It's a VERY town thing to change your mind about a player after pressuring them. Scum are much more apt to continue tunneling a successful wagon, because a townie under pressure can behave erratically and cause other town to vote them.
Quote the post where I have asked another player to claim.
Iso is just looking to diversify lynch options. Put a bookmark on this post if any of the contemporary wagons flip scum, because this bad angle could come from scum defending a buddy.
Are you daft?
Мы, темнотеwho the fuck is kpaca?
Where I come from the mafia typically has it's own separate forum off site to use to chat at any time. That's where I come from with my coaching thoughts.Suga, where you come from is it common for scum to have daychat? Most games on MTGS (and here as well, I assume) the mafia are only allowed to talk at night. Basically, I wouldn't assume that any change in Kaze's character is due to coaching.
Are you wanting to lynch Iso based on his Nuwen vote, or is there more? You'll need a lot if you're going to push for his lynch today.
I realize that, butThe only thing I haven't liked about Nuwen is that she seems to fabricate or exaggerate certain points in her cases. Basically her entire initial case on me was fabricated, and that last bit with Iso, but given her towniness in other areas (and plenty of other good points elsewhere), I've been willing to assume she's just confused on those points (especially given her motivations at the time, though Iso's case was perhaps more shady).
Iso, you say she's dragging the town around by the nose. I realise she's been trying to do that, with little success, but how does that make her scum? Town need to convince people to join wagons too, and acting sure of a read is certainly not a scummy thing to do.
Мы, темнотеwho the fuck is kpaca?
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets
Maybe I'm being dense, but how is she preventing us from getting information?I realize that, but once we have a body, we have more to analyze. Nuwen is obfuscating that process by preventing us from getting the information we need and is instead getting information she wants - role info and reactions to pressure, which can indicate PR or not - and then leaving it at that. Would you rather run a successful wagon on a vanilla or a PR if you were scum? The latter makes you look a LOT worse.The only thing I haven't liked about Nuwen is that she seems to fabricate or exaggerate certain points in her cases. Basically her entire initial case on me was fabricated, and that last bit with Iso, but given her towniness in other areas (and plenty of other good points elsewhere), I've been willing to assume she's just confused on those points (especially given her motivations at the time, though Iso's case was perhaps more shady).
Iso, you say she's dragging the town around by the nose. I realise she's been trying to do that, with little success, but how does that make her scum?
Town need to convince people to join wagons too, and acting sure of a read is certainly not a scummy thing to do.
I would like to understand this rationale as well. This seems convoluted at best and far fetched at worstMaybe I'm being dense, but how is she preventing us from getting information?I realize that, but once we have a body, we have more to analyze. Nuwen is obfuscating that process by preventing us from getting the information we need and is instead getting information she wants - role info and reactions to pressure, which can indicate PR or not - and then leaving it at that. Would you rather run a successful wagon on a vanilla or a PR if you were scum? The latter makes you look a LOT worse.The only thing I haven't liked about Nuwen is that she seems to fabricate or exaggerate certain points in her cases. Basically her entire initial case on me was fabricated, and that last bit with Iso, but given her towniness in other areas (and plenty of other good points elsewhere), I've been willing to assume she's just confused on those points (especially given her motivations at the time, though Iso's case was perhaps more shady).
Iso, you say she's
dragging the town around by the nose. I realise she's been trying to do that, with little success, but how does that make her scum? Town need to convince people to join wagons too, and acting sure of a read is certainly not a scummy thing to do.
Just to make sure I understand the rest, you're saying that she's pushing these wagons to get reactions in an attempt to out the PR's (which is why she'd be jumping around and backtracking a bit - to get more
reactions). Based on those reactions, you think she'll ultimately try to run up a wagon on someone she thinks is vanilla and then target a PR lead with the night kill. Is that what you're saying?
Gosh, I don't see this. We've only got one confirmed PR and Nuwen wasn't on Suga's wagon when he revealed his role. We've got a few crumbs from some people, but it seems incredibly farfetched that Nuwen is trying to differentiate between PRs and vanillas on day 1 just to push a lynch on the latter and glean information from the former.I realize that, but once we have a body, we have more to analyze. Nuwen is obfuscating that process by preventing us from getting the information we need and is instead getting information she wants - role info and reactions to pressure, which can indicate PR or not - and then leaving it at that. Would you rather run a successful wagon on a vanilla or a PR if you were scum? The latter makes you look a LOT worse.The only thing I haven't liked about Nuwen is that she seems to fabricate or exaggerate certain points in her cases. Basically her entire initial case on me was fabricated, and that last bit with Iso, but given her towniness in other areas (and plenty of other good points elsewhere), I've been willing to assume she's just confused on those points (especially given her motivations at the time, though Iso's case was perhaps more shady).
Iso, you say she's dragging the town around by the nose. I realise she's been trying to do that, with little success, but how does that make her scum?
Town need to convince people to join wagons too, and acting sure of a read is certainly not a scummy thing to do.
Doublevoter is typically a town power but we don't know what the setup is like. I'd say there's a fair chance dan wouldn't be opposed to including a scum doublevoter in this game.
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