Free Harkius - The pitfight comes home
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You guys shouldn't be looking at this as me wanting to introduce a little chaos or whatever Machiavellian scheme you all think I do; it's actually a positive. Back when he was originally banned, I took it as just another piece of instability in what I had come to think of as the most unstable place I was willing to go on the 'net; that may be just because I myself was pretty fuckin' unstable back then, or maybe that I didn't get the culture, or the very distinct possibility that you were, in fact, the most unstable place around... I think perhaps the latter has a smidgeon of truth to it.
But since then, what's surprised me in the growth of the site is an atmosphere of quick and efficient change; quite the change from MTGS where they let problems fester far too long and resort to masks and bannings to hide their dirty laundry instead of just, you know, doing their laundry. I like to call it an atmosphere of "self-
help"; I just say what's on my mind, and the community, especially Scumbag, comes up with a solution in short order. And these solutions are often simple, elegant, and just what is needed. It's a way of life too personable for MTGS to understand, and to my mind it is no big realization to see how Harkius has felt muzzled there despite them keeping him around. In him, I see a caged bird, and in our maturity here, so different from the groupthink of MTGS, I would like to at least give him the chance to sing.
So yeah, there probably will be drama bombs, there probably will be internet fights (hell, even if he doesn't maek post there probably will be), but I at least have confidence that when they come we have the skills and insight to handle them. We don't need to fear drama here.
But since then, what's surprised me in the growth of the site is an atmosphere of quick and efficient change; quite the change from MTGS where they let problems fester far too long and resort to masks and bannings to hide their dirty laundry instead of just, you know, doing their laundry. I like to call it an atmosphere of "self-
help"; I just say what's on my mind, and the community, especially Scumbag, comes up with a solution in short order. And these solutions are often simple, elegant, and just what is needed. It's a way of life too personable for MTGS to understand, and to my mind it is no big realization to see how Harkius has felt muzzled there despite them keeping him around. In him, I see a caged bird, and in our maturity here, so different from the groupthink of MTGS, I would like to at least give him the chance to sing.
So yeah, there probably will be drama bombs, there probably will be internet fights (hell, even if he doesn't maek post there probably will be), but I at least have confidence that when they come we have the skills and insight to handle them. We don't need to fear drama here.
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I supported the ban and I support the unban. It was a justified time out. We love drama and schemes and raids as much as the next card game forum, but Harkius was making it not fun that week. Anyways, we didn't ban Onar for his Yomako bullshit, so we should unban Harkius. This is not a website for banning people.
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Precisely. We are the website of the damned banned. To ban them from here is to jettison them into the abyss.I supported the ban and I support the unban. It was a justified time out. We love drama and schemes and raids as much as the next card game forum, but Harkius was making it not fun that week. Anyways, we didn't ban Onar for his Yomako bullshit, so we should unban Harkius. This is not a website for banning people.
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The ban was fine, for the reason that we didn't do it because he broke a sacred rule or gathered too many infractions, but because we decided we weren't in the mood for his bullshit anymore and just banned him. It set an early precedent for the site that just because we aren't a nazi forum and have a self-moderated culture, we are still willing to cut out the cancer if need be. Better yet we will do it without warning and even if not everyone agrees (I believe the Summit lasted all of two minutes before Spam pulled the trigger just to return the conversation to something interesting.)
Harkius was taking things a bit too seriously back then. It is in his nature to be an annoying person. But we can always just ban him again, so why not unban him, it's been six months and this place is sort of stagnant right now.
Harkius was taking things a bit too seriously back then. It is in his nature to be an annoying person. But we can always just ban him again, so why not unban him, it's been six months and this place is sort of stagnant right now.
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I'm down for that if he goes by Slammu for a bit. That will show all of us that he move past the "annoying Hark" persona and actually try to enjoy himself here.The ban was fine, for the reason that we didn't do it because he broke a sacred rule or gathered too many infractions, but because we decided we weren't in the mood for his bullshit anymore and just banned him. It set an early precedent for the site that just because we aren't a nazi forum and have a self-moderated culture, we are still willing to cut out the cancer if need be. Better yet we will do it without warning and even if not everyone agrees (I believe the Summit lasted all of two minutes before Spam pulled the trigger just to return the conversation to something interesting.)
Harkius was taking things a bit too seriously back then. It is in his nature to be an annoying person. But we can always just ban him again, so why not unban him, it's been six
months and this place is sort of stagnant right now.
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I don't think it matters. It'd surprise me quite a bit if he actually posts here, so if you want to gleefully look back on his old posts with a silly username I guess I'm fairly neutral to how you get your rocks off. I'm not doing this for him; I'm doing this for the entirely selfish reason of allowing myself to think of your guys as something more than scumbags.Your thoughts on the Slammu proposal?
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Hopefully that post was sarcasm.I don't think it matters. It'd surprise me quite a bit if he actually posts here, so if you want to gleefully look back on his old posts with a silly username I guess I'm fairly neutral to how you get your rocks off. I'm not doing this for him; I'm doing this for the entirely selfish reason of allowing myself to think of your guys as something more than scumbags.Your thoughts on the Slammu proposal?
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I have been saying I want Harkius unbanned for months and have the power to unban him and nobody has told me not to, and I still didn't, because I am a scumbag, worse, I amI don't think it matters. It'd surprise me quite a bit if he actually posts here, so if you want to gleefully look back on his old posts with a silly username I guess I'm fairly neutral to how you get your rocks off. I'm not doing this for him; I'm doing this for the entirely selfish reason of allowing myself to think of your guys as something more than scumbags.Your thoughts on the Slammu proposal?
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I came here before that ban, my first posts on this site are cataloging my systematic downfall.And I know that Kait cannot handle another ban. The last one sent him here and he's still recovering.If the same thing happens as last spring, we ban Slammu and his advocate Kaitscralt.
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This site was always your rebound girl. But now that the love of your forum life is gone, she's all you'veI came here before that ban, my first posts on this site are cataloging my systematic downfall.And I know that Kait cannot handle another ban. The last one sent him here and he's still recovering.If the same thing happens as last spring, we ban Slammu and his advocate Kaitscralt.
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