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Postby photodyer » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:01 am

I'm picturing an 8 bit Link holding up an RG deck from a treasure chest.
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:40 am

So I've been testing this on MODO and it is hilarious:

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4 Young Pyromancer
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Guttersnipe
4 Hellrider

Spells (22)
4 Faithless Looting
4 Pillar of Flame
4 Shock
4 Searing Spear
3 Wild Guess
3 Brimstone Volley

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22 Mountain
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No Mutavaults because I'm poor on MODO now that I've collected most of the shocks in anticipation of a price increase when rotation hits.

It has so many lines of play and I love always having options. I'd like to try and improve it though.
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Postby Jack » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:43 am

Don't forget Hellion Crucible
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:50 am

Anyone have thoughts on whether BurnAtTheStake.dec could transpose to Modern? I am almost certainly going to try.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:54 am

Or some sort of Dark Confidant plus Young Pyromancer deck maybe...hmmmm.
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Postby Alex » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:31 am

Anyone have thoughts on whether BurnAtTheStake.dec could transpose to Modern? I am almost certainly going to try.
I'll put some work into it when I work on my article some more, I think this deck could be built under the $100 threshold. Obviously the deck is better with fetches and shocks because Spectral Procession is much easier to cast at that point, but even so, I'm sure I can come up with something.

Just for reference, though, here are some spells in Modern that make dudes for value:

Raise the Alarm
Timely Reinforcements
Dragon Fodder
[card]Krenko's Command[/card]
Spectral Procession
[card:
3nnunsoj]Hero of Bladehold[/card]
Lingering Souls
Midnight Haunting
Gather the Townsfolk
Summon the School


So I think there could be something to it. You have a LOT of ways to make absurd amounts of tokens, and they're all spells so they all trigger Young Pyromancer. You even get a pretty good pick of which spells you want to play based on your manabase, there are many that are 1W and just as many 1R.

I also like that in a deck like this one, as long as you have at least 1 Elemental token and Young Pyromancer, Infernal Plunge turns into "1R: Add RRR to your mana pool," making it ten times more playable.



As a side note, I really hope that people at my LGS have forgotten about Timely Reinforcements, because if I keep playing this mono red list and people pick that card up, life is going
to get a lot more complicated. :(

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Postby Alex » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:59 am

James, here's an Izzet version, I didn't mess around with the token variant using Battle Hymn yet, that'll be next.

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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:07 pm

Arrigato ^____^

I like that Battle Hymn can let you run rituals 9-12; you can always hold a Pyromancer until turn 3-4 to cast with 1-3 extra spells (1 mana cantrips plus git probe, or chain rituals) to get heavy value. It is quite exciting. RW as you have envisioned might just be better of course.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:40 pm

http://www.twitch.tv/darkest_mage/c/2619023

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE LOLS.

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Postby Alex » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:55 pm

http://www.twitch.tv/darkest_mage/c/2619023

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE LOLS.

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Postby Alex » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:10 pm

Also, my article needs a cheap control list. I was thinking of something involving Story Circle because the card basically shuts off Splinter Twin and Kikki shenanigans involving Deceiver Exarch and Pestermite. (Since they can't hit you for damage with all of their copies, it doesn't really matter how many they have.)

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Postby Alex » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:11 pm

This deck seems kind of fun, and it plays some sweet cards. A little soft to Scapeshift but I think it's pretty decent against a LOT of other stuff.

[deck]Likely unplayable control[/deck]

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No sideboard yet but it will probably be some number of countermagic and removal.

I also need more red sources so I can play better red spells, but I couldn't think of any
cheap duals that weren't Shivan Reef.

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Postby Jack » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:31 pm

Keep it up with the modern article, Alex. The first bits were good and interesting, but the last edit was by far the most insightful and helpful.
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Postby PirateKingAtomsk » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:08 pm

Just realized sanguine bond and exquisite blood are standard legal right now, make me wanna brew rakdos midrange control. :evillol: :evillol:
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:11 pm

Twitch.tv needs to get away from Flash for their videos since it doesn't play well with the iPad, and their app doesn't allow for searching.
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:27 pm

Twitch.tv needs to get away from Flash for their videos since it doesn't play well with the iPad, and their app doesn't allow for searching.
Or you could just, you know, get a real tablet.

http://eee.asus.com/en/transformer-infinity/features

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Postby Jack » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:55 pm

I'm having trouble playing anything on my android. I have 2 apps for twitch, but neither of those nor my browser could play the video z posted.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:01 pm

I'm having trouble playing anything on my android. I have 2 apps for twitch, but neither of those nor my browser could play the video z posted.
Just watch it in the browser.

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Postby Alex » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:05 pm

Twitch.tv needs to get away from Flash for their videos since it doesn't play well with the iPad, and their app doesn't allow for searching.
Or you could just, you know, get a real tablet.

http://eee.asus.com/en/transformer-infinity/features

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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:37 pm

Twitch.tv needs to get away from Flash for their videos since it doesn't play well with the iPad, and their app doesn't allow for searching.
Or you could just, you know, get a real tablet.

http://eee.asus.com/en/transformer-infinity/features

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I worked for Apple
in college. They've got a collegiate work program out of University of Florida. Not a bad company to work for, 8/10 would do it again.
Oh I'm sure they're an awesome company to work for. I just don't like their design philosophy so I tend to avoid anything Apple.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:58 pm

Oh I'm sure they're an awesome company to work for. I just don't like their design philosophy so I tend to avoid anything Apple.

Meh, I just don't buy Apple stuff. I don't hate it, I just have no interest in paying 2-3x as much for something that generally doesn't outperform its competitors just because "it's cool" or because you can't get a virus even if you're a real fuck-up.

Of course, the more experience I have with Windows 8, the more interest I have in Apple...
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:00 pm

Yes, I figured I'd get a response like that. :) Other than it's inability to play Flash video, there's not much else I can't do with the iPad. It's easier to annotate PDFs on the iPad than it is on my desktop computer. That's important to me since I have a small proofreading business on the side. I got used to working with Apple when I was working for a printing company.

Flash, as a technology, is a resource hog and a vulnerability to a lot of systems using it. The newer video codecs offer much higher quality with faster load times.
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:10 pm

Flash, as a technology, is a resource hog and a vulnerability to a lot of systems using it. The newer video codecs offer much higher quality with faster load times.
It definitely is, but like it or not, many MANY web pages are using that technology and we can't just ignore it. Apple's approach is "Ignore it and maybe it will eventually go away" and that's just a huge cop-out.

I could write a novel on the things I don't like about Apple's "i" products, but that's for another time. That said, I would never trade the flexibility of my Transformer for an iPad, and I've used them both.
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:22 pm

I do hate Microsoft's tendency to just completely redesign programs with no thought on how those changes will affect longstanding users, however. At this point, I just want them to leave Word and Excel alone. And Windows 8 is an unholy abomination. I shouldn't have an uphill learning curve every time they improve something.

In the end, it boils down to personal preferences for most users. I'm ok with Apple's more "walled garden" approach since it works for me.
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:27 pm

And in other news, do you think people who say things like this are aware of how ignorant they sound?

"Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister, is one of the opponents who spoke to the board about why the [new science] standards should not be adopted, according to The Courier-Journal. 'Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God,' Singleton said. 'Instead, this fascist method teaches that our children are the property of the state.'"

This is in regards to the teaching of evolution and man's influence on climate change.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 72418.html

Do Americans look this stupid abroad?
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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:54 pm

And in other news, do you think people who say things like this are aware of how ignorant they sound?

"Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister, is one of the opponents who spoke to the board about why the [new science] standards should not be adopted, according to The Courier-Journal. 'Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God,' Singleton said. 'Instead, this fascist method teaches that our children are the property of the state.'"

This is in regards to the teaching of evolution and man's influence on climate change.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 72418.html

Do Americans look this stupid abroad?
Gotta love how the second dissenter took this line of logic:

teaching evolution in school = socialism
socialism = genocide and murder

If A=B and B=C, then A=C

teaching evolution in school = genocide and murder
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:57 pm

And in other news, do you think people who say things like this are aware of how ignorant they sound?

"Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister, is one of the opponents who spoke to the board about why the [new science] standards should not be adopted, according to The Courier-Journal. 'Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God,' Singleton said. 'Instead, this fascist method teaches that our children are the property of the state.'"

This is in regards to the teaching of evolution and man's influence on climate change.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 72418.html

Do Americans look this stupid abroad?
In Europe, Australia and Canada, yes. In Asia, Africa and South America, no. The developing parts of the world still think America is hot shit. Japan has a man crush on America.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:03 pm

Canadians are also stupid but it's considered fashionable to make fun of America. We do this as a way of feeling better about being America Juniour. Any Canadian who has spent as much time in America as I have / has critical thinking skills knows that:

A) We have more similarities than differences
B) We have a massive inferiority complex

I like America more than nearly any Canadian you'll meet. Most of my friends are American. I actually have despised most of the Canadians I have met abroad.

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Postby Link » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:06 pm

And I just found out another new neighbor moved in across from me.

She looks hot. Alli and I are going to deliver brownies to her to "welcome her here. "

Lame? Maybe. Best idea for a recon mission to determine hotness of new neighbor? Definitely.
Threesome inc?

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Postby redthirst » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:10 pm

I ain't descended from no monkeys y'all!
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:45 pm

Non sequitur theatre: Happy Feet is a weird little movie.
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Postby Platypus » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:04 pm

I made meatloaf today, it tasted amazing! I make some great meatballs as well (same recipe). If any of you want to taste some amazing meatballs/meatloaf, I can share my secret.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:06 pm

I've also had rave reviews regarding my balls and loaf of meat that I'm willing to share.
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Postby Platypus » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:08 pm

How did I not see that coming...
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:12 pm

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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby PirateKingAtomsk » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:17 pm

Was gonna allude to it but thirst beat me with his cock :ugh:
no homo :sneaky:
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:29 pm

If thirst is beating you with his cock, there's gotta be some homo involved. Just sayin'.
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Postby hamfactorial » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:55 pm

Mike Tyson said it first, but we know redthirst pioneered the idea: "I'm gonna fuck you 'til you love me!"

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:24 pm


Meh, I just don't buy Apple stuff. I don't hate it, I just have no interest in paying 2-3x as much for something that generally doesn't outperform its competitors just because "it's cool" or because you can't get a virus even if you're a real fuck-up.

Of course, the more experience I have with Windows 8, the more interest I have in Apple...
Fuck Windows 8. Acquire Linux.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:24 pm

Ubuntu in particular is nice.
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