[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Sasky]

I think it is good enough for constructed, but i would only keep it in the sideboard unless esper control dies a complete death.

[Link]

Against control is where it seems weakest due 2-1, but even then its not completely a dead card. Think of it as burn with a creature, so instead of that spear you held on to until the end of the game, you used it on T2 to let your cackler swing for +4 before they even untap a mana.

Or after a boardwipe with a hasted creature (Boar+double=8).

but mostly I like its combination with Reckoner. Instead of having to wipe your own board with Bact to combo with reckoner, you essentially make your field unblockable AND redirect a bunch of damage.

Nah I lied, I do like it with GCR but that requires 4 mana and is the least likely version to happen. Its the same reason I love hound of griselbrand so much, doublestrike is an engine for AGGRO that makes all of our pump effects twice as effective, and this has an effect a lot faster than hound (I'd play both and swap in hounds from the SB for this against
control post board)


Going to do a bunch of testing with it tomorrow.

2HG went well. In the finals we folded to a guy who had 3 zhur-taa swinges and his other head had Basicalla guards. The way "each opponent" reads= 8 damage a turn. We almost won too with riot controls but made a serious misplay with a counterspell. Counterspelled a stab wound when I had a friggin wear and tear in hand as well

[redthirst]

Just wanted to say congrats to ham and zem for removing what was probably a good 90% of the content worth reading in the Rx Aggro subforum.

[LP, of the Fires]

Played 3 pre-release sealed's. Finsihed 5/6th in the first 2 and then fatigue set in and finished a disappointing 11th in the third. Conclusions:

3 colors is mandatory for most decks, 4 and 5 color decks where the best. Just play all your gates and splash all your bombs.

Junk color guild packs are the most consistent. This good just be a symptom of all the best players going orzhov/selesnya/golgari, but we all crushed. 3 of us over 5 events had a combined record of 27-6-1. The green is solid, black and golgari have all the best removal and all the white hybrids seem like the best bombs.

Everyone has bombs so it's more or less even. People who aren't splashing for there bombs are just wrong. I had a boardstate of Orzhov Guildgate, double forest and izzet keyrune with an obzedat in hand one game. Didn't matter because most decks are slow enough that you can just buy time till you hit your colors and have them waste
removal on your midgame threats.

Ruric Tar is the best guild champion. He blows games wide open.

Hyper agro can work so long as you build your manabase right if your pool leans in that direction.

Overall I had a blast and I had my beliefs reaffirmed that sealed is just sealed. My buddy Weston opened a weak pool at the midnight release and still 3-1'd. His record over three events was a combined 12-2 with 6th, 1st, and 2nd place finishes in addition to crushing us in a four man triple DGM draft at his place a couple hours ago.

If I did another release, I'd probably go Orzhov, but rakdos seems SO much fun. Well, I'm headed to bed. Haven't slept(2 hours is not sleep) in two days so gonna hit the hey.

@ Windstrider, When I wake up tomorrow, I'll look the pool over again since I don't have any of the DGM cards memorized, but looking at the gruul and rakdos packs alone, it looks like you had solid cards and a good enough pool for at least a 3-1 or whatever.

[Platypus]

2-0 with Rakdos/Boros so far, whoo! Now the hard part starts...

Oh, and Exava followed by Spawn of Rix Maadi is just not very fair...

[Christen]

3 colors is mandatory for most decks, 4 and 5 color decks where the best. Just play all your gates and splash all your bombs.

This is entirely correct. Almost everyone was playing 3 colors with that occasional 4th color splash since the guildgates were just plenty. I also can't fathom the number of cluestones in the packs (I had six with four on color).

Although, would we see the same 3-color pattern in DGM-GTC-RTR drafts?

[Sasky]

I would say yes, but it would mostly be 3-color, nothing more, nothing less. Drafting makes it so you're not thrusted with a kaleidoscope of options, and you'd be forced to commit. Opening a Rtr pack followed by a gtc pack means you are most likely forced to play more than 2 colors. Therefore, three colors.

[Khaospawn]

For redthirst and photo:

[TubeHunter]

so yesterday in the prereleases, I went 3-2-1 and 3-2, for 8th and 6th respectively. Opened an obzedat, Voice, and Steam vents though, so made up for it.

Went Rakdos and Selesnya, I'll post my lists later

[Kazekirimaru]

I don't understand 80% of the references in this clan.

[Khaospawn]

I don't understand 80% of the references in this clan.

I get all the Firefly things, but I have no idea about Game of Thrones. But then, I don't ever watch TV because I don't have cable.

Though I do highly recommend you watch Firefly. It was only one season, but if you like Westerns, Star Trek, or Star Wars, you'll love it.

[redthirst]

You're going to want to watch some Firefly.

[windstrider]

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost ... count=1363

My response to S_A in the Gruul Sligh thread. His lack of awareness is appalling.

[Khaospawn]

That guy insisting Z paid me to do or say anything is somewhat infuriating.

[TubeHunter]

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost ... count=1363

My response to S_A in the Gruul Sligh thread. His lack of awareness is appalling.

I just don't even know what to say right now. I mean, I have a bit more pacience with bad players, mostly cause I dOnt think too highly of myself as one, but how can you just not seem to grasp anything we say? I personally quit after he asked why vexing devil is bad.....

[hamfactorial]

I got a warning over at MTGS for "soliciting outside of sig". They're probably referring to the HGD thread. Suckers.

[Alex]

He is, and always has been a fucking 100% certifiable retard.

He tried to use his "competitive" knowledge against me in my mono black infect primer, and claimed that I had no idea how to properly build a deck from the ground-up.

I don't think I've ever actually grilled somebody so hard in the history of my MTGS posting. Those posts were such a smackdown that I had them removed from the primer thread just so that they didn't disrupt the flow of the actual useful Q&A.

[Alex]

I got a warning over at MTGS for "soliciting outside of sig". They're probably referring to the HGD thread. Suckers.

They un-stick'd the thread, too. Ahahahaha. Theysomad.

Edit: I lied, they deleted the entire thread. Ohohohoho.

[Khaospawn]

Yeah Koopa deleted your original HGD thread and Z's primer thread.

And the more I think about it, I really think S_A is just some retarded 15 year old kid who is just trolling everyone. Nobody can be that dumb. Except for Rivaltuna.

[hamfactorial]

Yeah Koopa deleted your original HGD thread and Z's primer thread.

And the more I think about it, I really think S_A is just some retarded 15 year old kid who is just trolling everyone. Nobody can be that dumb. Except for Rivaltuna.

Chuckle, chortle, snicker. In other words, lulz

[Alex]

and Z's primer thread.

And replaced it with this garbage, no less.

[Jack]

and Z's primer thread.

And replaced it with this garbage, no less.

Holy shit. You'd think, as a mod, he'd at least be smart enough to maybe play the deck to know what works with it, or at least read the previous discussion to know whats good. Or he could just disregard any of the good ideas that have been brought up to disassociate us from them as much as possible and remove pyreheart wolf and stonewright from the main and throw in skullcrack, vstrenght, and shred-freak




n:vomit:

[Alex]

and Z's primer thread.

And replaced it with this garbage, no less.

Holy shit. You'd think, as a mod, he'd at least be smart enough to maybe play the deck to know what works with it, or at least read the previous discussion to know whats good. Or he could just disregard any of the good ideas that have been brought up to
disassociate us from them as much as possible and remove pyreheart wolf and stonewright from the main and throw in skullcrack, vstrenght, and shred-freak

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost ... count=1362


I wonder how mad he would be if I reported his own post for being uncompetitive.

[Alex]

I guess we'll find out.

[hamfactorial]

the schadenfreude!

[Valdarith]

Added my two cents.

[Alex]

Added my two cents.

Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz.

[Platypus]

2-0 with Rakdos/Boros so far, whoo! Now the hard part starts...

Oh, and Exava followed by Spawn of Rix Maadi is just not very fair...

And the rest didn't go so well, ended up 3-3. Decklist and cards will follow at some point....

[ExarionUniverse1]

Added my two cents.

Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz.

and says a ban in my book , so I am reporting you guys sorry nothing personal...

[Alex]

Added my two cents.

Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz.

and says a ban in my book , so I am reporting you guys sorry nothing personal...

Go for it, we're not doing anything against the rules. His thread is actual trash and according to their rules, it doesn't belong in the competitive section.

PS: Adding "nothing personal" at the end of a dickish statement doesn't make you any less of a dick, for future reference.

[hamfactorial]

In Bizarro World, forum rules mean nothing!

[hamfactorial]

Added my two cents.

Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz.

and says a ban in my book , so I am reporting you guys sorry nothing personal...

You're a shitbag cock gobbler.

Keeping it real, nothing personal, just saying.

[Link]

Played 3 pre-release sealed's. Finsihed 5/6th in the first 2 and then fatigue set in and finished a disappointing 11th in the third. Conclusions:

3 colors is mandatory for most decks, 4 and 5 color decks where the best. Just play all your gates and splash all your bombs.

Junk color guild packs are the most consistent. This good just be a symptom of all the best players going orzhov/selesnya/golgari, but we all crushed. 3 of us over 5 events had a combined record of 27-6-1. The green is solid, black and golgari have all the best removal and all the white hybrids seem like the best bombs.

Everyone has bombs so it's more or less even. People who aren't splashing for there bombs are just wrong. I had a boardstate of Orzhov Guildgate, double
forest and izzet keyrune with an obzedat in hand one game. Didn't matter because most decks are slow enough that you can just buy time till you hit your colors and have them waste removal on your midgame threats.

Ruric Tar is the best guild champion. He blows games wide open.

Hyper agro can work so long as you build your manabase right if your pool leans in that direction.

Overall I had a blast and I had my beliefs reaffirmed that sealed is just sealed. My buddy Weston opened a weak pool at the midnight release and still 3-1'd. His record over three events was a combined 12-2 with 6th, 1st, and 2nd place finishes in addition to crushing us in a four man triple DGM draft at his place a couple hours ago.

If I did another release, I'd probably go Orzhov, but rakdos seems SO much fun. Well, I'm headed to bed. Haven't slept(2 hours is not sleep) in two days so gonna hit the hey.

@ Windstrider, When I wake up tomorrow, I'll look the pool over again since I don't have any of the DGM cards
memorized, but looking at the gruul and rakdos packs alone, it looks like you had solid cards and a good enough pool for at least a 3-1 or whatever.

Interesting, I had the opposite experience with Ruric. I weirdly think he's better in constructed than limited.

Of course, I myself didn't get to play him, but when he was played against me he was easily dealt with due to his "must attack clause."

So its entirely possible that they were just misplaying with him. I probably wouldn't drop him unless I had a bloodrush in my hand to protect him from being double gang bang blocked. THEN I could see him being a game ending bomb

[Valdarith]

Added my two cents.

Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz.

and says a ban in my book , so I am reporting you guys sorry nothing personal...

What did I say that deserves reporting? Inquiring minds want to know...

[Tharkun]

What is amusing is that the two threads were archived and both are still sticky in the standard/archive.

[Khaospawn]

What a two faced, piece of shit narc!

[hamfactorial]

Apparently, promoting outside of sig is an offense on MTGS. Just report all his posts from months ago where he was spamming our clan thread with forum invites.

[Khaospawn]

I knew the Russians were the real bad guys....

[hamfactorial]

Yeah man, but the women... the women!

[Khaospawn]

In Soviet Russia, woman fucks YOU!