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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:12 am

Anybody else been listening to Fall Out Boy's new album?
No, but I don't listen to garbo music...*braces for impact*
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:20 am

First off, happy birthday to the FoS people who have had recent ones (pyreheart, lorddax, and RT). I'm a bit surprised at the number of April birthdays around here. My birthday was on the 15th (but I tend to keep personal info off of public profiles, so that's why no one knew).
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this...I know that the relationship has no implied causality, but it raises some eerie questions about the base philosophies behind astrology. And add me to the April list...next Monday for me. I am quite happy to share my birth month with such a
distinguished crowd of rowdies. :D
One of my Red Mage Musings discussed the importance of our collective astrological signs (Fire Signs) and philosophizing on whether it plays a role on our color selection, playing style, and bond of brotherhood within Magic :The Gathering.

For example, I am a Sagittarius, a Fire sign, and the "Universal Friend" to all signs. I'm energetic, passionate, and aggressively pursue whatever I feel like setting my sights on.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:29 am

Anybody else been listening to Fall Out Boy's new album?
No, but I don't listen to garbo music...*braces for impact*
Mkay. Well, opinions and such.

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Postby Solemn10 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:41 am

I never said double strike is irrelevant but the primordial hydra doubles each turn giving itself a multiplier and trample when it has 10 or more counters.
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Postby Dodger » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:41 am

So a deck with 4 Vexing Devils got 3rd place at the Columbus 5k. The fuck?
What's the list look like?

[deck]4 Ash Zealot
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Vexing Devil
Creatures [16]
4 Boros Charm
4 Brimstone Volley
4 Pillar of Flame
4 Searing Spear
4 Skullcrack
3 Thunderbolt
Spells [23]
4 Clifftop Retreat
13 Mountain
4 Sacred Foundry
Lands [21]
SIDEBOARD
1 Blasphemous Act
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Oblivion Ring
3 Reckless Waif
3 Torch Fiend
1 Tormod's Crypt
3 Volcanic Strength[/deck]

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Postby Self Medicated » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:44 am

First off, happy birthday to the FoS people who have had recent ones (pyreheart, lorddax, and RT). I'm a bit surprised at the number of April birthdays around here. My birthday was on the 15th (but I tend to keep personal info off of public profiles, so that's why no one knew).
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this...I know that the relationship has no implied causality, but it raises some
eerie questions about the base philosophies behind astrology. And add me to the April list...next Monday for me. I am quite happy to share my birth month with such a distinguished crowd of rowdies. :D
One of my Red Mage Musings discussed the importance of our collective astrological signs (Fire Signs) and philosophizing on whether it plays a role on our color selection, playing style, and bond of brotherhood within Magic :The Gathering.

For example, I am a Sagittarius, a Fire sign, and the "Universal Friend" to all signs. I'm energetic, passionate, and aggressively pursue whatever I feel like setting my sights on.
I am a Leo, also a fire sign, and have always been partial to red. I don't know if astrological signs influence our personalities and such, but I can't deny the results.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:45 am

Haha, cute burn deck.

Also, Aries / Dragon here.
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Postby Christen » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:56 am

Cancer here. Water sign yes.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:02 am

[deck]
4 Borderland Ranger
4 Flinthoof Boar
4 Gore-Clan Rampager
4 Gyre Sage
4 Hellrider
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Thundermaw Hellkite

4 Abundant Growth
4 Mizzium Mortars

3 Kessig Wolf Run
4 Rootbound Crag
4 Stomping Ground
8 Forest
5 Mountain[/deck]

No idea if it is any good, but:
- Some creature based card advantage, through cards like Borderland Ranger and Strangleroot Geist. Thragtusk is a consideration for maindeck or at least the sideboard as well.
- Lots of haste damage; Flinthoof Boar, Hellrider, Strangleroot Geist and Thundermaw Hellkite.

Maybe the 'interesting' part of the deck is the election for Abundant Growth over Arbor Elf. This may just be bad, but it is something I am interested in trying out. There are a few things I like about it:
- it is 'better' mana-fixing than Arbor Elf (can always produce red, arbor elf cannot)
- it is a better top deck late game
- increases the decks
resilience to sweepers
- helps you draw into your winning cards. This is not insignificant because the deck also includes Borderland Ranger and Kessig Wolf Run.

Drawbacks:
- no mana accel
- no interaction with Hellrider

It is possible you want Thragtusk instead of Thundermaw in the 5 spot if your meta is more controlling (Thundermaw can be a bit weak to targeted removal and Azorius Charm) but he is great at racing aggro and amazing at beating down Reanimator. Also, flies over Boros Reckoner.

Not an unreasonable starting place I don't think.
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Postby Alex » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:06 am

First off, happy birthday to the FoS people who have had recent ones (pyreheart, lorddax, and RT). I'm a bit surprised at the number of April birthdays around here. My birthday was on the 15th (but I tend to keep personal info off of public profiles, so that's
why no one knew).
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this...I know that the relationship has no implied causality, but it raises some eerie questions about the base philosophies behind astrology. And add me to the April list...next Monday for me. I am quite happy to share my birth month with such a distinguished crowd of rowdies. :D
One of my Red Mage Musings discussed the importance of our collective astrological signs (Fire Signs) and philosophizing on whether it plays a role on our color selection, playing style, and bond of brotherhood within Magic :The Gathering.

For example, I am a Sagittarius, a Fire sign, and the "Universal Friend" to all signs. I'm energetic, passionate, and aggressively pursue whatever I feel like setting my sights on.
I am a Leo, also a fire sign, and have always been partial to red. I don't know if astrological
signs influence our personalities and such, but I can't deny the results.
I'm a gemini, I think that's air? Granted, my birthday is on May 21st, so I'm barely even that.

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Postby Calamity » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:09 am

Scorpio represent

Water sign. Am I stranger in a strange land
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Postby Dodger » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:18 am

I'm a scorpio too. Not that of that means shit

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Postby photodyer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:21 am

Taurus and Horse, Earth and Fire respectively. I manifest strongly characteristics of both elements...
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Postby Calamity » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:02 am

I'm a scorpio too. Not that of that means shit
As much as I think astrology is bullshit its really weird how well I fit the scorpio description
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Postby Helios » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:15 am

I'm a Capricorn, an Earth sign. Hope that doesn't throw off any calculations. However, depending on your interpretation, I can fall in the cusp between Sagittarious/Capricorn, which is then Fire and Earth.

The description is, largely, accurate. And in a fit of irony, I'm finding myself furiously debating between which commander deck to keep: red burn or a strange green-based g/r/w/u Monk deck.

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Postby Christen » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:40 am

[deck]
4 Borderland Ranger
4 Flinthoof Boar
4 Gore-Clan Rampager
4 Gyre Sage
4 Hellrider
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Thundermaw Hellkite

4 Abundant Growth
4 Mizzium Mortars

3 Kessig Wolf Run
4 Rootbound Crag
4 Stomping Ground
8 Forest
5 Mountain[/deck]

No idea if it is any good, but:
- Some creature based card advantage, through cards like Borderland Ranger and Strangleroot Geist. Thragtusk is a consideration for maindeck or at least the sideboard as well.
- Lots of haste damage; Flinthoof Boar, Hellrider, Strangleroot Geist and Thundermaw Hellkite.

Maybe the 'interesting' part of the deck is the election for Abundant Growth over Arbor Elf. This may just be bad, but it is something I am interested in trying out. There are a few things I like about
it:
- it is 'better' mana-fixing than Arbor Elf (can always produce red, arbor elf cannot)
- it is a better top deck late game
- increases the decks resilience to sweepers
- helps you draw into your winning cards. This is not insignificant because the deck also includes Borderland Ranger and Kessig Wolf Run.

Drawbacks:
- no mana accel
- no interaction with Hellrider

It is possible you want Thragtusk instead of Thundermaw in the 5 spot if your meta is more controlling (Thundermaw can be a bit weak to targeted removal and Azorius Charm) but he is great at racing aggro and amazing at beating down Reanimator. Also, flies over Boros Reckoner.

Not an unreasonable starting place I don't think.
I would try and squeeze Domri Rade in there because he is decent on creature-centric decks and bonkers against control. My current GR build runs Borderland Ranger and less land (21 land and no Kessig though). Since Domri can hit the Ranger, I had not much problems with hitting my land
drops. I also don't run Hellrider myself. I still run Wolfir Silverheart in my build.

Abudant Growth seems fine to me since it cantrips. The only probably drawback I can think of right now is Acidic Slime sees play.
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Postby photodyer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:31 am

^I like Domri out of the side for control as well, but he doesn't mesh particularly well with Abundant Growth; he wants to come in with max creatures and a minimum of other cards. I'm not knocking Rade, but playing him in the side would be a reason not to pay AG over the tree-hugger.
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Postby Colonel Nohman » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:48 am

Am I the only Libra?
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Postby photodyer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:48 am

^It's A Question of Balance....
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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:29 am

Not a huge Fall Out Boy fan, but I like the new song.

Light 'em up up up!
Light 'em up up up!
Light 'em up up up!
I'm on fire!

Very clan appropriate.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:35 am

Don't know much about astrology other than I'm a Libra and apparently we're sexy and balanced.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Colonel Nohman » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:38 am

^It's A Question of Balance....
Ahahahaha, you're totally right! :rofl:
Don't know much about astrology other than I'm a Libra and apparently we're sexy and balanced.
I can pretty much agree on that. Also, I've answered to your question about Bant vs Reanimator matchup in the previous page, hope that has been useful.
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Postby photodyer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:14 pm

^It's A Question of Balance....
Ahahahaha, you're totally right! :rofl:
Whew...glad I didn't totally whiff with the Moodies reference since it seriously predates most of the clan!
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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:35 pm

Soooooo... it's been a month since we moved here and I just now noticed that Blaklanner wasn't in the FoS user group but Blackhound (who is not a member) was. I think there might have been some confusion when we first made that user group...

Sorry Blaklanner.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:22 pm

My birthday if February 18. I've never been able to determine whether that makes me Pisces or Aquarius.

So I don't have a sign. I can do whatever the fuck I want.
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:27 pm

Re: Zodiac

Interestingly enough, the Chinese calendar says I'm a Water sign -

"THE WATER DOG 1922 AND 1982

These Dogs have great foresight and are well-educated on many different things. This quality helps them appreciate other points of view, making them quite flexible and liberal. They are easygoing, but this can cause them to be too spendthrift with money and less loyal with friends. Still, because of their flexible natures and their ability to appreciate difference, these Dogs always have friends and are usually popular people."

Also, since I'm born on December 21st, I'm on the cusp of Capricorn, so I guess I also share with an Earth sign, like Helios.

Earth, Water, and Fire. Hmm...I'm just missing Heart and Wind to summon Captain Planet...
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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:30 pm

he's our hero!!
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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:30 pm

gonna take polution
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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:30 pm

down to zero
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:32 pm

Go Planet!
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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:34 pm

I always felt bad for the "heart" kid.

Everyone else could do all kinds of cool shit with their rings - floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, firestorms - and he could... talk to a monkey.

I'm pretty sure he eventually turned to drugs before killing himself. And I'll bet Captain Planet never even noticed...

:-(
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:37 pm

I always felt bad for the "heart" kid.

Everyone else could do all kinds of cool shit with their rings - floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, firestorms - and he could... talk to a monkey.

I'm pretty sure he eventually turned to drugs before killing himself. And I'll bet Captain Planet never even noticed...

:-(
Same here. I thought i was the only one that felt that way. His power was by far the shittiest but at least he had a monkey he could mind-control. That has to count for something. He probably told it to pick out the seeds from his pot and cut lines out on the mirror during his later years...
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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:37 pm

I always felt bad for the "heart" kid.

Everyone else could do all kinds of cool shit with their rings - floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, firestorms - and he could... talk to a monkey.

I'm pretty sure he eventually turned to drugs before killing himself. And I'll bet Captain Planet never even noticed...

:-(

They put him in a landfill that Planet vaporized. He only learned of it 10 years later, and turned to a life of narcotics and male prostitution because he couldn't cope.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:41 pm

I mean, if he could control animals with that bitch it'd have been pretty cool, but all he could do was politely ask them to do things - if they didn't want to, well, tough shit.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:41 pm

I'll stick with setting whatever the fuck I want to on fire, thanks.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:47 pm

burn on, fearless leader!
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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:50 pm

That's a cute monkey you got there...

...yeah...

BURN FOR IT!
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:20 pm

The conversation line in this thread is rather difficult to keep up with.

Uhh...I'm a cancer?
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Postby Link » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:27 pm

CRABS UNITE! ....eventually

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Postby redthirst » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:30 pm

You're going to want to hit those with the special shampoo.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...


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