[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[redthirst]

Is is seeing play in anything in Modern? I'm not very savvy on the non-Standard meta.

[rcwraspy]

Is is seeing play in anything in Modern? I'm not very savvy on the non-Standard meta.

not that i'm aware of but I'm only just now getting into Modern.

[TubeHunter]

I drive a Honda....

I'd probably dump huntsmasters, they aren't seeing very much eternal play.

Legacy Nic-Fit and a few Modern Jund lists are the only things I've seen it in.

[Dodger]

I have the snappy's and just got the resto's. No Caverns but it's on my shopping list. I assume that sees play in modern/legacy and that's why it runs $20 a pop. I do have a set of Huntmasters and I have been wondering if I should dump those around August or hold onto them due to eternal format play. After Modern Masters comes out I think I might eventually end up with a real modern and legacy deck to play.

[Kazekirimaru]

I drove an 80-something Honda Accord until it finally died at the ripe old age of 27. I never had to fix it once.

I cycle between my 98 Ford Ranger and my Fiancee's 08 Pontiac G6 now. The latter, usually. That thing's got some juice.


I think I'll take WU aggro to FNM once more before I settle into KDW for a while. What's everyone else taking?

[Kazekirimaru]

do you think Huntmasters should be dumped as rotation approaches?

I've seen it played in some Modern lists, but not enough to keep the price up post-rotation. Get rid of em.

[Dodger]

I'm taking jund aggro again, though I replaced the Mogg Flunkies with Lightning Maulers. Check probably won't clear my account until late next week so I'll probably take jund aggro that week too. But after that I need a change. Trying to decide what I want to build next. I'm kinda digging The Aristocrats, but we'll see.

[TubeHunter]

I'm taking jund aggro again, though I replaced the Mogg Flunkies with Lightning Maulers. Check probably won't clear my account until late next week so I'll probably take jund aggro that week too. But after that I need a change. Trying to decide what I want to build next. I'm kinda digging The Aristocrats, but we'll see.

Opposite of you. Im just getting into Jund Aggro, and I love it. Here is my list.


[deck]
Creatures
4 Experiment One
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Flinthoof Boar
3 Mogg Flunkies
3 Dreg Mangler
4 Falkenrath Aristocrat
2 Hellrider
2 Thundermaw Hellkite


3 Searing Spear
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Domri Rade


4 Blood Crypt
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Stomping Ground
2 Forest
1 Mountain
4 dragonskull summit
4 Woodland
Cemetary
4 Rootbound Crag

SB
3 Deathrite Shaman
1 Abrupt Decay
2 Golgari Charm
2 Appetite for Brains
2 Tragic Slip
2 Olivia Voldaren
2 Zealous Conscripts
1 Sever the Bloodline[/deck]

any thoughts?

[Valdarith]

PS - Hondas are gay.

Correction: New Hondas are gay. OG Civics are a work of beauty.

This is what I drive, although it's a work in progress. The engine has been basically completely restored, but I slacked on the body work while living in Orlando because I didn't want it to get stolen and I lived in the hood. (Anybody who has lived in central Florida will know what I mean, I lived on Orange Blossom Trail and Oak Ridge Rd.)

AE86 aaaaaaaaaw yeeeeeah!

So this begs the question:
what do you think of the FR-S?

Re: buying and selling Standard staples: sell Huntmasters, buy Snapcasters and Cavern of Souls. Resto Angel is beginning to see play in Modern. I'm not sure if she will become a staple since I know so little about the format, but I don't think she's a terrible investment either. I'd certainly keep Restos over Huntmasters.

[Alex]

The body is fucking ridiculous.

[Kazekirimaru]

So this begs the question: what do you think of the FR-S?

http://begthequestion.info/

I'm sorry. English major. Pet peeve. Yeah.

Ignore me.

[LP, of the Fires]

I'm taking jund aggro again, though I replaced the Mogg Flunkies with Lightning Maulers. Check probably won't clear my account until late next week so I'll probably take jund aggro that week too. But after that I need a change. Trying to decide what I want to build next. I'm kinda digging The Aristocrats, but we'll see.

Opposite of you. Im just getting into Jund Aggro, and I love it. Here is my list.


[deck]
Creatures
4 Experiment One
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Flinthoof Boar
3 Mogg Flunkies
3 Dreg Mangler
4 Falkenrath Aristocrat
2 Hellrider
2 Thundermaw
Hellkite


3 Searing Spear
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Domri Rade


4 Blood Crypt
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Stomping Ground
2 Forest
1 Mountain
4 dragonskull summit
4 Woodland Cemetary
4 Rootbound Crag

SB
3 Deathrite Shaman
1 Abrupt Decay
2 Golgari Charm
2 Appetite for Brains
2 Tragic Slip
2 Olivia Voldaren
2 Zealous Conscripts
1 Sever the Bloodline[/deck]

any thoughts?

I'd cut 3 lands and a Domri for 4 Rakdos Cacklers. It's an agro deck so it wants around 8 1-drops. additionally, 27 lands is way to many. The board looks decent though.

[Alex]

So the new Streetlight Manifesto album leaked today.

I feel like it's Christmas.

[TubeHunter]

I'm taking jund aggro again, though I replaced the Mogg Flunkies with Lightning Maulers. Check probably won't clear my account until late next week so I'll probably take jund aggro that week too. But after that I need a change. Trying to decide what I want to build next. I'm kinda digging The Aristocrats, but we'll see.

Opposite of you. Im just getting into Jund Aggro, and I love it. Here is my list.

n
[deck]
Creatures
4 Experiment One
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Flinthoof Boar
3 Mogg Flunkies
3 Dreg Mangler
4 Falkenrath Aristocrat
2 Hellrider
2 Thundermaw Hellkite


3 Searing Spear
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Domri Rade


4 Blood Crypt
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Stomping Ground
2 Forest
1 Mountain
4 dragonskull summit
4 Woodland Cemetary
4 Rootbound Crag

SB
3 Deathrite Shaman
1 Abrupt Decay
2 Golgari Charm
2 Appetite for Brains
2 Tragic Slip
2 Olivia Voldaren
2 Zealous Conscripts
1 Sever the Bloodline[/deck]

any thoughts?

I'd cut 3 lands and a Domri for 4 Rakdos Cacklers. It's an agro deck so it wants around 8 1-drops. additionally, 27 lands is way to many. The board looks decent though.

Whoops, I def miscalculated my lands. I don't have that many in my real deck, I have 23. Wow, I really miscounted there...
It should be -1 to
checklands and -1 forest. Derp, didn't have the list infront of me when i typed that.

Anyways, Other than the two domris, what would you suggest i cut for the other 2 Cacklers? A spear and a Flunkies is my first notion.

[Aesnath]

@Huntmaster and rotation: My impression is that it creeped into a few lists, but nothing significant. I wouldn't entirely rule out him seeing play, but it isn't looking good.

HOWEVER, he is a pretty unique card in terms being the mythic double-sided werewolf. I would not be surprised if he holds some value just based on the casual crowd.

But...I'd probably ship 'em if I had them.

[LP, of the Fires]

If you're only running 23 lands, then Thundermaw Hellkite starts looking dubious and I'd look to cutting that guy. I try to avoid 5 drops unless I'm playing 24 land.

[LP, of the Fires]

FNM tonight. Probably gonna make agro players cry again by playing turn 3 swagtusks and reanimating Elderscale wurm. Seriously, Elderscale should be in every reanimator players sideboard. It's not unanswerable or anything, but if they don't have removal or the threaten, it gives you the time to close out the game.

[Khaospawn]

Re: Fords

So, $170.00 later for my alternator... Fuck man, that was my Dragon's Maze money. And this is now the 4th Friday I haven't played FNM.

Shitcuntpissfagtittysuckingtwoballedbitchofafuckingcockguzzlingwhore!

In capitalist America, Ford drives YOU!

Welp, time to hit up my girls' brother. He's a mechanic and he's gonna walk me through this so I know what to do next time. He's a mechanic at...Honda.

[Alex]

He's a mechanic at...Honda.

And he's not unemployed? Hondas NEVER freaking die.

[TubeHunter]

Honda Power! All the way!

[hamfactorial]

Tube: I cannot stop laughing at that picture. My sides!

[Khaospawn]

He's a mechanic at...Honda.

And he's not unemployed? Hondas NEVER freaking die.

When I look at his Facebook page at the pictures from his job, it's hilarious. Most of them involve the other mechanics sleeping, goofing off, or striking poses. I don't think they actually do any work.

[Platypus]

I quite like that Spike Jester! Perhaps there's a possiblity of a decent low curve aggro RB deck with it?

But...someone on MTGS already suggested splashing black in Legacy Burn for it...

[Calamity]

I quite like that Spike Jester! Perhaps there's a possiblity of a decent low curve aggro RB deck with it?

But...someone on MTGS already suggested splashing black in Legacy Burn for it...

I dunno much about legacy but doesnt' that defeat the purpose of burn in legacy...

you're mono red so price of progress is a one sided rape train, and you don't get hit by wasteland. And he's a creature that can die/be blocked.

[Link]

probably taking gold ole gruul ragehammer tonight.

New store, BAct upset times?

[Platypus]

I quite like that Spike Jester! Perhaps there's a possiblity of a decent low curve aggro RB deck with it?

But...someone on MTGS already suggested splashing black in Legacy Burn for it...

I dunno much about legacy but doesnt' that defeat the purpose of burn in legacy...

you're mono red so price of progress is a one sided rape train, and you don't get hit by wasteland. And he's a creature that can die/be blocked.

Yeah, that's it. The suggestion is just
crazy. It's not hard to see this. And I've played once with a legacy burn deck. I'd rather have a Hellspark Elemental, and even those are iffy. In modern burn maybe, but that's a different situation.

[Valdarith]

So this begs the question: what do you think of the FR-S?

http://begthequestion.info/

I'm sorry. English major. Pet peeve. Yeah.

Ignore me.

This is the first time I've heard of this. I learned something new today.

That said, I always hated English as a subject (boring) but am still much better at it than most in my field.

EDIT: Wiki dat shit.

Many English speakers use "begs the question" to mean "raises the question", &
quot;evades the question", or even "ignores the question", and follow that phrase with the question, for example: "this year's deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?" Apart from philosophical, logical, grammatical and legal contexts, some authorities deem such usage to no longer be mistaken.[5][6][7][25][26]


If an editorial argues that same-sex marriage is wrong because marriage is a bond between a man and a woman, the editorial assumes that marriage can only be between a man and a woman—the very notion that same-sex marriage calls into question. The editorial thus begs the question.
Such is the traditional or strict use of the term. Trouble arises, however, because the “question” or assumption is usually left unstated in the statements it describes, and consequently beg the question often means “to evade or ignore the question.” And since the point of claiming that something begs the question is to make
explicit what has been assumed to be true, the expression is also used to mean simply “to raise the question.” These looser meanings have long been condemned by usage commentators as incorrect or sloppy.
But sorting out exactly what is meant by beg the question is not always easy, especially in constructions such as beg the question of whether and beg the question of how, where the door is opened to more than one question. Consider the sentence The proposal to increase funding for agricultural subsidies begs the question of whether these programs were successful in the first place. If you interpret this to mean that the proposal assumes that the programs were successful, when that is precisely what needs to be established, then beg the question is used properly to refer to the logical fallacy. But we can easily substitute evade the question or even raise the question, and the sentence will be perfectly clear, even though it will violate the traditional usage rule.[5]
—The American Heritage Guide to
Contemporary Usage and Style

[hamfactorial]

Yes! Another pedantic old bastard like me!

[rcwraspy]

The news keeps showing interviews with classmates and friends of the 19 year old who is still on the run. Each and every one of them have said that they recognized the suspect from the FBI pictures released yesterday but didn't say anything because they thought "it couldn't be him."

Fucking people should all be arrested or something. Those pictures were released yesterday afternoon. The MIT police officer was ambushed and killed in Cambridge, near where the suspects live, around 10:30 that night. If only ONE of those kids had called the FBI the whole thing could have been avoided.

And the worst that would have happened if their friend was innocent was a surprise, a scare, and an inconvenience.

[Alex]

The news keeps showing interviews with classmates and friends of the 19 year old who is still on the run. Each and every one of them have said that they recognized the suspect from the FBI pictures released yesterday but didn't say anything because they thought "it couldn't be him."

Fucking people should all be arrested or something. Those pictures were released yesterday afternoon. The MIT police officer was ambushed and killed in Cambridge, near where the suspects live, around 10:30 that night. If only ONE of those kids had called the FBI the whole thing could have been avoided.

And the worst that would have happened if their friend was innocent was a surprise, a scare, and an inconvenience.

I quite like that Spike Jester! Perhaps there's a possiblity of a decent low curve aggro RB deck with it?

But...someone on MTGS already suggested splashing black in Legacy Burn for it...

I like that I can respond to two entirely separate issues with the exact same response:


People are so fucking stupid.

[Kazekirimaru]

So this begs the question: what do you think of the FR-S?

http://begthequestion.info/

I'm sorry. English major. Pet peeve. Yeah.

Ignore me.

This is the first time I've heard of this. I learned something new today.

That said, I always hated English as a subject (boring) but am still much better at
it than most in my field.

EDIT: Wiki dat shit.

Many English speakers use "begs the question" to mean "raises the question", "evades the question", or even "ignores the question", and follow that phrase with the question, for example: "this year's deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?" Apart from philosophical, logical, grammatical and legal contexts, some authorities deem such usage to no longer be mistaken.[5][6][7][25][26]


If an editorial argues that same-sex marriage is wrong because marriage is a bond between a man and a woman, the editorial assumes that marriage can only be between a man and a woman—the very notion that same-sex marriage calls into question. The editorial thus begs the question.
Such is the traditional or strict use of the term. Trouble arises, however, because the “question” or assumption is usually left unstated in the statements it
describes, and consequently beg the question often means “to evade or ignore the question.” And since the point of claiming that something begs the question is to make explicit what has been assumed to be true, the expression is also used to mean simply “to raise the question.” These looser meanings have long been condemned by usage commentators as incorrect or sloppy.
But sorting out exactly what is meant by beg the question is not always easy, especially in constructions such as beg the question of whether and beg the question of how, where the door is opened to more than one question. Consider the sentence The proposal to increase funding for agricultural subsidies begs the question of whether these programs were successful in the first place. If you interpret this to mean that the proposal assumes that the programs were successful, when that is precisely what needs to be established, then beg the question is used properly to refer to the logical fallacy. But we can easily substitute evade the question
or even raise the question, and the sentence will be perfectly clear, even though it will violate the traditional usage rule.[5]
—The American Heritage Guide to Contemporary Usage and Style

I enjoy having mastery over the English language. It alone has gotten me into bed with a lot of women. Women are suckers for the art of the spoken word.

[rcwraspy]

Crypt Incursion
2B
Instant
Exile all creature cards from target player's graveyard. You gain 3 life for each card exiled each way.
---------------
Seems interesting... sideboard tech against reanimator in its own colors?

[rcwraspy]

And they have to shit on aggro a bit more:

Restore the Peace
1WU
Instant
Return each creature that dealt damage this turn to its owner's hand.

[Platypus]

Like the black card, don't like the UW one...

[Kazekirimaru]

And they have to shit on aggro a bit more:

Restore the Peace
1WU
Instant
Return each creature that dealt damage this turn to its owner's hand.

Eh, either the opponent attacks with a few creatures and the effect isn't really worth it, or they attack with a lot of creatures and you're already dead. Cards that do things post-damage have never impressed me.

[Alex]

So this begs the question: what do you think of the FR-S?

http://begthequestion.info/

I'm sorry. English major. Pet peeve. Yeah.

Ignore me.

nThis is the first time I've heard of this. I learned something new today.

That said, I always hated English as a subject (boring) but am still much better at it than most in my field.

EDIT: Wiki dat shit.

Many English speakers use "begs the question" to mean "raises the question", "evades the question", or even "ignores the question", and follow that phrase with the question, for example: "this year's deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?" Apart from philosophical, logical, grammatical and legal contexts, some authorities deem such usage to no longer be mistaken.[5][6][7][25][26]


If an editorial argues that same-sex marriage is wrong because marriage is a bond between a man and a woman, the editorial assumes that marriage can only be between a man and a woman—the very notion that same-sex marriage calls into question. The editorial thus begs the question.

Such is the traditional or strict use of the term. Trouble arises, however, because the “question” or assumption is usually left unstated in the statements it describes, and consequently beg the question often means “to evade or ignore the question.” And since the point of claiming that something begs the question is to make explicit what has been assumed to be true, the expression is also used to mean simply “to raise the question.” These looser meanings have long been condemned by usage commentators as incorrect or sloppy.
But sorting out exactly what is meant by beg the question is not always easy, especially in constructions such as beg the question of whether and beg the question of how, where the door is opened to more than one question. Consider the sentence The proposal to increase funding for agricultural subsidies begs the question of whether these programs were successful in the first place. If you interpret this to mean that the proposal assumes that the programs were successful, when that is
precisely what needs to be established, then beg the question is used properly to refer to the logical fallacy. But we can easily substitute evade the question or even raise the question, and the sentence will be perfectly clear, even though it will violate the traditional usage rule.[5]
—The American Heritage Guide to Contemporary Usage and Style

I enjoy having mastery over the English language. It alone has gotten me into bed with a lot of women. Women are suckers for the art of the spoken word.

They are? I have an English degree as well and I haven't noticed this. You'd think with diction as precise as mine, if that were the case I'd be swimming in a proverbial sea of vagina.

[Helios]

"Diction."

I see what you did there.

[rcwraspy]

And they have to shit on aggro a bit more:

Restore the Peace
1WU
Instant
Return each creature that dealt damage this turn to its owner's hand.

Eh, either the opponent attacks with a few creatures and the effect isn't really worth it, or they attack with a lot of creatures and you're already dead. Cards that do things post-damage have never impressed me.

Very true, but, like a lot of things, it's potentially worrisome "in the right deck." T3 or 4 the control deck has just made a very good tempo play against aggro and can safely Sphinx's
Revelation in the next couple turns because aggro is wasting time resetting their board position. It also helps extend into your more punishing board wipes. When aggro decks plan to "go under" control's board wipes, a huge tempo loss like this can lose you the match.

I don't know if it's playable and/or how good it will be, but just seeing it spoiled worries me already.

[Alex]

"Diction."

I see what you did there.

>things that an English degree will teach you.


I went on Youtube to see if I could find a video of myself from when I was Eric, but what I happened to find instead was one from when I was still Aladdin! I bet you guys can't imagine bitter old me being this good with kids, but I swear that I am.

[TubeHunter]

Genius at its finest:

Tubehunter puts Rootbound Crag into play from hand.
Tubehunter taps Rootbound Crag.
Tubehunter taps Blood Crypt.
Tubehunter puts Burning-Tree Emissary into play from hand.
Tubehunter puts Mogg Flunkies into play from hand.
It is now the ending phase.
 langel: the land must enter tapped
and you put 2 creatures
 Tubehunter: i control a mountain
 langel: no you dont
 Tubehunter: Blood Crypt: Swamp Mountain
You have been kicked out of the game.