From the Vault: Twenty

Postby **admin** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:37 pm

Product announced on Pro Tour Gatecrash by Hill and Sutcliffe, made to celebrate the twenty years of MtG.

Known facts:
- This product is packed with 20 cards instead of the traditional 15 cards from previous From the Vaults;
- The product is also going to feature a card from a winning deck from each year of Magic existence.

Release date: August 23, 2013
MSRP: $39,99
Product concept and develop team: Gavin Verhey and Jeremy Jarvis
Twitter Hashtag: #ftv20

Manasjap · Postby **Manasjap** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:08 pm

Did they define "winning deck" ? Like worlds or something?

Col. Khaddafi · Postby **Col. Khaddafi** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:18 am

No info on that yet.

Since this is some big deal FTV (20th anniversary) I wonder if they will risk putting one of these mythical (pun intended) uncommons like Mana Drain or Force of Will at the risk of making the decks a huge speculators/hoarders target. Doing this would likely piss the regular magic Joe who wouldn't be able to get his hands on one unless they would jack up the product quantities, but given the precedent of the commanders arsenal product...

Second Harkius · Postby **Second Harkius** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:50 am

Verhey's developing it? I hope it won't be full of OP, money rares like Gatecrash!

Col. Khaddafi · Postby **Col. Khaddafi** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:15 am

maybe we can have one of the cards be gutter grime, guttersnipe or gutter skulk

Pendulum · Postby **Pendulum** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:05 am

So she's got white hair, a green staff, blue magic, and a skull in the background, where's the red?

imopen2 · Postby **imopen2** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:13 am

There is a little red dot next to the word "live." you must have missed it

Pendulum · Postby **Pendulum** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:06 am

How very meta of you.

Shalako · Postby **Shalako** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:42 am

I'm going to laugh so hard if it's T2 winning Decks from the last 20 years.

Necro, Cycle Enchant, Ravenger, Bitterblossom, BBE/Blighting, Goblin Guide

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:16 am

I bet a dragonstorm card will be in there, everyone couldn't shut the fuck up about that deck Chapin made yonks ago

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:28 am

so one of each basic then fifteen cards?

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:24 pm

Zoo was another huge deck

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:25 pm

Faries will definitely get a spot. Oh god jund too

Shalako · Postby **Shalako** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:17 pm

JTMS/Sword and Birds. I wonder what one will get in?

(Birds)

ExarionUniverse1 · Postby **ExarionUniverse1** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:34 pm

Faries will definitely get a spot. Oh god jund too

second Jund...

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:49 am

lol
V. Clique from Fae. BBE or Blightning from Jund. SFM from Cawblade. Necro probably has a spot here. Lin Sivi too. Arcbound Ravager?

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:49 am

lol
V. Clique from Fae. BBE or Blightning from Jund. SFM from Cawblade. Necro probably has a spot here. Lin Sivi too. Arcbound Ravager?

Definitely Ravager.

Zoo is one of the biggest though.

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:50 am

Fish possibly? Definitely a mono blue draw go deck

Col. Khaddafi · Postby **Col. Khaddafi** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:10 am

They really dropped the ball when they closed the loop for not reprinting foils from the reserved list, because it must have been really funny when selecting the most memorable Urza's Saga card:

- Obv. Tolarian Academy
- Nope. Reserved List
- [card=Yawgmoth's Win]Yawgmoth's Will[/card]?
- Reserved
- Karn, Silver Golem, Masticore, [card]Gaea's Cradle[/card], Phyrexian Negator, Powder Keg?
- Sorry
- ... not Voltaic Key again >.<

Ximbad · Postby **Ximbad** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:04 am

They really dropped the ball when they closed the loop for not reprinting foils from the reserved list, because it must have been really funny when selecting the most memorable Urza's Saga card:

- Obv. Tolarian Academy
- Nope. Reserved List
- [card=Yawgmoth's Win]Yawgmoth's Will[/card]?
- Reserved
- Karn, Silver Golem, Masticore, [card]Gaea's Cradle[/card], Phyrexian Negator, Powder Keg?
- Sorry
- ... not Voltaic Key again >.<

Show and tell. It was in bargain decks or something.

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:32 pm

Crop rotation

Thrillho · Postby **Thrillho** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:07 pm

I suspect Jace or Stoneforge and Force of Will. They're sitting on that new art and instead rereleasing Mother of Runes.

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:39 pm

I suspect Jace or Stoneforge and Force of Will. They're sitting on that new art and instead rereleasing Mother of Runes.

Stoneforge seems more likely

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:44 am

Jace and FoW would make this thing incredibly hard to get without sawing off an arm and a leg.

Shalako · Postby **Shalako** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:00 am

StoneForge was in a Intro Pack already.

I got it before They Printed Swords and it seems weird to print it again IMO.

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:04 am

they were both integral parts of the deck, but you could still do well with Belerens instead of TMS and SFM was still a beating.

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:06 am

like you remove Jace you could get by. You remove stoneforge... the deck is just Caw-Go

Checkbox · Postby **Checkbox** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:48 am

StoneForge was in a Intro Pack already.

I got it before They Printed Swords and it seems weird to print it again IMO.

intro pack =/= event deck

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:12 am

StoneForge was in a Intro Pack already.

I got it before They Printed Swords and it seems weird to print it again IMO.

So many cards in FTV sets were in pre made decks, and jace is only good in old formats so he had a price drop. Stoneforge is also only a rare.

Col. Khaddafi · Postby **Col. Khaddafi** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:13 am

Dude, JTMS is back at 100$

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:27 pm

Fuck me

Captain Murphy · Postby **Captain Murphy** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:28 pm

I have 1, I should sell it.

But basically what Yanni said, its the big important card of caw blade unlike jace which is just a good card

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:09 pm

like didn't UB control steam roll cawgo in that tournament?

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:42 pm

Considering the Squadron Hawks were added as a way to combat UB Control, no.

Yannaria · Postby **Yannaria** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:00 am

I meant worlds

Blackhound · Postby **Blackhound** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:14 pm

Some card called Jace, the mind sculptor has been confirmed for this.

Col. Khaddafi · Postby **Col. Khaddafi** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:37 pm

In retrospect it is not very surprising although:

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:12 am

Picture Kijin sitting at a desk with 16 phones on it, calling every place he knows to buy these, all at the same time

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:12 am

mancierage

ExarionUniverse1 · Postby **ExarionUniverse1** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:48 am

Picture Kijin sitting at a desk with 16 phones on it, calling every place he knows to buy these, all at the same time

I can picture this very clearly

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