Open Site Blathering (formerly Advice from iridium ITT)

[Slammu]

Management fight!

The only way to resolve this is a fistfight at high noon!

[ExarionUniverse1]

Onar - If they want to it's an open forum. Are you really telling me that I should go back to my site, identify people I think fucked up, and tell them to come over here and say their sorry?

isn't maintaining a friendly atmosphere part of our jobs as admins? Yes, that's exactly what I mean and you can quote me in the mod lounge.

You can copy our whole conversation.

- Onar ( Russian
Alara on MTGS)

I think not telling your staff what to think is a good way of doing that.

True, but you can't make them , so its up to them , you can hint though.

[Galspanic]

If they don't want to apologize I am not going to even hint at it. This site and this conversation has been brought up enough times that if they really want to, they will. If they don't there are any number of reasons why they don't. I am dropping this point for now though - it doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

[ExarionUniverse1]

If they don't want to apologize I am not going to even hint at it. This site and this conversation has been brought up enough times that if they really want to, they will. If they don't there are any number of reasons why they don't. I am dropping this point for now though - it doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

I thank you nonetheless, it made staff thinking much more evident.

and as a programmer/ network security , I can only say to you as a hacker to watch out.

[Galspanic]

Why?

[Pendulum]

CHRIST ON A BIKE.

[Slammu]

and as a programmer/ network security , I can only say to you as a hacker to watch out.

Seriously? Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

Sometimes, Onar, you say shit that just seems...needlessly threatening.

[ExarionUniverse1]

Why?

because they may be pinged by Cert

[Pendulum]

Tango down.

[Captain Murphy]

Every forum would be better off if their SYM/CI boards were WAY down at the fucking bottom of the list. That way, ADD people would find something else to read first.

TMYK.

Hey lets ban big gulps in New York, people won't get fat anymore because it wont be near them

[Galspanic]

Onar - Wow.
Cpt. M - I wish they would ban Taco Bell.

[Captain Murphy]

Every forum would be better off if their SYM/CI boards were WAY down at the fucking bottom of the list. That way, ADD people would find something else to read first.

TMYK.

Hey lets ban big gulps in New York, people won't get fat anymore because it wont be near them

Like, the only way they can get them is going to Manhattan

[Captain Murphy]

So I guess if I want CI and its down the bottom I will say "Fuck it, can't be bothered scrolling while I sit down in front of my computer in this air conditioned room"

[Captain Murphy]

Onar - Wow.
Cpt. M - I wish they would ban Taco Bell.

I wish fat people just had to pay more for certain things (Flights)

[Galspanic]

So I guess if I want CI and its down the bottom I will say "Fuck it, can't be bothered scrolling while I sit down in front of my computer in this air conditioned room"

No, I think it's more to keep the random people that don't really care about from starting flame wars over stuff they don't care about. You buy a box of cereal and on the back it says "Questions or concerns, call: XXX-XXX-XXXX." No need to put that on the front right below the title.

[ExarionUniverse1]

So I guess if I want CI and its down the bottom I will say "Fuck it, can't be bothered scrolling while I sit down in front of my computer in this air conditioned room"

No, I think it's more to keep the random people that don't really care about from starting flame wars over stuff they don't care about. You buy a box of cereal and on the back it says "Questions or concerns, call: XXX-XXX-XXXX." No need to put that on the front right below the title.

or just put this: http://news.thehackernews.com/14

[Pendulum]

So I guess if I want CI and its down the bottom I will say "Fuck it, can't be bothered scrolling while I sit down in front of my computer in this air conditioned room"

No, I think it's more to keep the random people that don't really care about from starting flame wars over stuff they don't care about. You buy a box of cereal and on the back it says "Questions or concerns, call: XXX-XXX-XXXX." No need to put that on the front right below the title.

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[Captain Murphy]

So I guess if I want CI and its down the bottom I will say "Fuck it, can't be bothered scrolling while I sit down in front of my computer in this air conditioned room"

No, I think it's more to keep the random people that don't really care about from starting flame wars over stuff they don't care about. You buy a box of cereal and on the back it says "Questions or concerns, call: XXX-XXX-XXXX." No need to put that on the front right below the title.

The only reason companies would do that is because they want to make money,
just like the small "Drink responsibly" words for alcohol ads. You work at a website that is all about community and PR, why would you move the community issues forum away or to the bottom?

The issue is regular CI warriors and not the occasional random. They say the worst person in a bar is the locals.

[Galspanic]

It was just an idea. And I like the idea of having the customer service line in a place that doesn't sit right up at the top. That's just my thought and I really don't see it being that big of a change. Also, I have never heard anyone say that. It was always "The meth addicts are the worst people in the bar."

[Pendulum]

That's true. The locals do always hog the karaoke machine and they all sing terribad.

[Captain Murphy]

Well its "The locals in the pub are the worst". Again probably just an Aussie thing.

[Pendulum]

I thought it was a Vegas thing.

[Captain Murphy]

I thought it was a Vegas thing.

That would be homeless people and gambling addicts

[Galspanic]

I thought it was a Vegas thing.

That would be homeless people and gambling addicts

Those are the BEST!!! When your friend goes out to buy weed and comes back with an eighth of Mintsnuff you know that it's the locals.

[Captain Murphy]

I thought it was a Vegas thing.

That would be homeless people and gambling addicts

Those are the BEST!!! When your friend goes out to buy weed and comes back with an eighth of Mintsnuff you know that it's the locals.

I'd prefer the weed

[Pendulum]

There's always more weed in Vegas.

[Galspanic]

I thought it was a Vegas thing.

That would be homeless people and gambling addicts

Those are the BEST!!! When your friend goes out to buy weed and comes back with an eighth of Mintsnuff you know that it's the
locals.

I'd prefer the weed

But of course you would. The locals make for better stories though.

[Pendulum]

Penn and Teller once asked my friend if she'd like to join an orgy.

[Col. Khaddafi]

We need posts in appeals because that is our process, but if you go back through everything that I have said I never asked for anyone to apologize (I don't think I have since I don't believe in force apologies). Others have, but I have 2 young kids and know enough from them that saying "Say you are sorry" means "Show that you submit to my authority and will make an insincere gesture to your brother." I mean, I suppose others might want it and for them I guess they should come here and take a knee or whatever, but I don't care if you are "sorry" only that you are looking for long term solutions and aren't harboring malice that shows up on the website I work for. Grovel to someone else
(Is it really supposed to take clicking Submit 4 times to post here? Is that in my settings?)

So if you guys are not looking for apologies, why do we have to appeal again? that doesn't make sense.

[( G_G )]

Penn and Teller once asked my friend if she'd like to join an orgy.

That's a three-some.

An orgy requires a minimum of six people.

It goes masturbation, one-on-one, three-some, two couple swinging, two couple swinging with a looky-loo, orgy’s six.

Wise words from Charlie Harper (Two and a Half Men Season 8 Episode 1 : “Three Girls and a Guy Named Bud”)

[Pendulum]

I stand corrected.

[Blackhound]

Hi Sene.

[Blackhound]

Seeing as you an Galspanic dont know who Karen Gillan is could you kindly ask the other salvation staff to kidnapp her for me ?

[Blackhound]

I await there response.

[Shalako]

their

[Galspanic]

We need posts in appeals because that is our process, but if you go back through everything that I have said I never asked for anyone to apologize (I don't think I have since I don't believe in force apologies). Others have, but I have 2 young kids and know enough from them that saying "Say you are sorry" means "Show that you submit to my authority and will make an insincere gesture to your brother." I mean, I suppose others might want it and for them I guess they should come here and take a knee or whatever, but I don't care if you are "sorry" only
that you are looking for long term solutions and aren't harboring malice that shows up on the website I work for. Grovel to someone else
(Is it really supposed to take clicking Submit 4 times to post here? Is that in my settings?)

So if you guys are not looking for apologies, why do we have to appeal again? that doesn't make sense.

I can't speak for others but I need something that shows you want to be on the site for what it has to offer and not because you want to crusade. Other might want apologies, but I just want people not to cause trouble.

[Thrillho]

afaik you can show that you want to come back and don't want to make trouble without apologizing for having done things that are troublesome, but it's hard.

personally i apologized here because it sucks that everything that happened came to what it did and at the end of the day i shouldn't have thrown a hornets' nest at a rock. i feel like there were outside factors pushing me towards that, but i'm not a puppet that only acts through external actions.

to be blunt, it sucks that i may never get an apology from people who are biased dicks for being biased dicks and can't see my earnest contributions to the community -- even if one of them is not one they like (Gutter) -- but what makes a sincere apology from an insincere one is doing it without the expectation of getting anything out of the apology process.

[Shalako]

I'd want to be on the site for Mafia and that's the only thing I would want to interact with.

[ExarionUniverse1]

I'd want to be on the site for Mafia and that's the only thing I would want to interact with.

Gal , can this be done?

[Galspanic]

I'd want to be on the site for Mafia and that's the only thing I would want to interact with.

Gal , can this be done?

Can I mask him out of everything but Mafia? Yes. Do I want a member on the site that we've deemed unsuitable for EVERYTHING except one forum? No. It's sort of an all or nothing deal for me. I've said this many times, but either you are good or you are not.