Secret Santa Mafia - Game Over - A Coal Filled Stocking

[Pedrobear]

Vote Rezombad

[Pedrobear]

Unvote

[rezombad]

Heh

[rezombad]

Would you mind killing yourself to check and see if red is town then?

unvote

[NightArcher]

I take back my last comment about Pedrobear, I hadn't considered that he couldn't talk due to an ability preventing it. If everyone is willing to go through the process, how about we work with Pedro (have him vote to give us information) to see what he verified as truth?

How about we start with Pedro voting for whose statement he verified.

Would you mind killing yourself to check and see if red is town then?

unvote

According to Tordeck's role pm, he can only do it once per day, so that wouldn't work.

[Manders]

I have no idea what's going on anymore.

[RedNihilist]

Maybe he can only vote for living people, though.

[imopen2]

I have no idea what's going on anymore.

this.

how did pedro inherit tordeck's ability and how does rez know about it?

at this point i'd rather no lynch than vote for manders but red is over here saying he quits so idk what to make of that

[imopen2]

what is a universal backup?

[Manders]

Maybe he can only vote for living people, though.

Fine.

Pedrobear. If you inherited Tordeck's ability, found Red to be Town, but can only vote/unvote, please unvote and vote imopen2.

[Manders]

I like how we're trying to work around his posting restriction (F&*@#%$ STARDUST YOU KNOW I HATE POSTING RESTRICTIONS, AND IT COUNTS EVEN WHEN I DON'T HAVE IT!!) yet you guys just let me meander along shouting for brains.

Jerks.

[NightArcher]

My understanding of he situation is that Rez created Pedro's ability. A 'backup' in mafia is a role that only becomes active when the role they're backing up dies. An example being a 'Nurse' (or Backup Doctor) is a vanilla until the Doctor dies, then the nurse becomes a doctor and gets to use the protection ability. Typically this is to limit the number of active power roles in the town so that only X many are active at any given time.

Now, as for being a "universal backup", I would assume that means that he basically started as a vanilla and gained the abilities of the first person that died. I don't know the technicalities obviously, but I would assume that's his ability for the rest of the game or he switches roles to the most recent dead person. (Anything beyond that is just guesswork without them confirming his role)

[rezombad]

My understanding of he situation is that Rez created Pedro's ability. A 'backup' in mafia is a role that only becomes active when the role they're backing up dies. An example being a 'Nurse' (or Backup Doctor) is a vanilla until the Doctor dies, then the nurse becomes a doctor and gets to use the protection ability. Typically this is to limit the number of active power roles in the town so that only X many are active at any given time.

Now, as for being a "universal backup", I would assume that means that he basically started as a vanilla and gained the abilities of the first person that died. I don't know the technicalities obviously, but I would assume that's his ability for the rest of the game or he switches roles to the most recent dead person. (Anything beyond that is just guesswork without them confirming his role)

Yup

[Pedrobear]

Vote Imopen2
Unvote

[RedNihilist]

Pedro, if you know *a generic something* thanks to your role, please vote N_A.

(This game gets weirder as the time goes by).

[Pedrobear]

Vote Pedrobear
Unvote

[RedNihilist]

Stardust, I want to ask you if all the roles submitted have actually been assigned, or did you have to change things in order to balance the settings?
Can I also ask you if you just assigned roles randomly? Can we expect town people to have town roles and bad guys have scummy ones, or there's no guarantee of that?

[Stardust]

Stardust, I want to ask you if all the roles submitted have actually been assigned, or did you have to change things in order to balance the settings?

Long answer: I tried to anticipate issues with the roles as submitted, and fired questions back to the givers for clarification. The only "changes" I would be making is if there were questions or issues I didn't foresee prior to the game starting, then I interpret as I see fit instead of going back to the giver.

Short answer: I changed nothing.

Can I also ask you if you just assigned roles randomly? Can we expect town people to have town roles and bad guys have scummy ones, or there's no guarantee of that?

Roles were assigned randomly.

[Manders]

Vote Pedrobear
Unvote

Well fuck. I wasted my ability Today, then.

Fuck!!

[imopen2]

so are we really going to nl two days in a row? i just can't see manders as scum, but if red isn't then ?_?

[Manders]

so are we really going to nl two days in a row? i just can't see manders as scum, but if red isn't then ?_?

God I hate this idea.

So...are we positive Red and Pedrobear are actually Town? I don't see how this makes them confirmed.

Pedro could be lying. Maybe he asked another question, got the post restriction, and is using it to clear both of them. (They are my top choices for Scum.) I know it's far-fetched, but it's pretty coincidental that both of my choices are involved in this. I could see this being super possible, especially if Scum have day chat.

Christ on a cracker. No one else is coming across scummy to me. I'm super sure NightArcher is Town based on subtle clues. imopen2 and rez are playing their Town game.

UGH. I don't know what to do.

[Manders]

Alive (6)
1. RedNihilist
2. Manders
3. imopen2
4. rezombad
5. PedroBear
6. NightArcher

As much as I hate to say this...I think we need to mass claim now.

God rest ye merry gentlemen,
Let nothing you dismay.
For Tordeck the reindeer
Was killed upon this day.
So let's go down and lynch the bastards
Who did us betray:
Oh lynchings bring comfort and joy, comfort and joy!
Oh lynchings bring comfort and joy...

Tordeck's Role PM

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Tordeck, you are Rudolph the Red-Nosed Lie Detector, Town.
You win when the town is under your control.

Once per Day, you may submit a section of in-game text (no longer than 10 words) to the mod.
- If the statement is false, the mod will say as much.
- The first time you submit a true statement to the mod, you cannot post for the remainder of the Day (but can still vote). The second time you submit a true statement to the mod, you will die. You will also die if you explain this limitation to anyone.

It is now Day 2. With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Tentative deadline set for two weeks from the time of this post.

We have until 3/14 until Day 2 ends, so let's not do that just yet.

Oh wait. I just realized Tordeck's role PM is in that post.

Did any of y'all submit a backup to Stardust?

Now I'm starting to think Pedrobear's lying about all of it.

@ Stardust: If Tordeck were still alive and had gotten a true statement, what would happen to him if he'd actually made a post other than a vote?

[Manders]

Reviewing the game.

NightArcher: Please answer this. I don't recall you doing so.

Also Imopen2 ignored the accusations levied at him. Don't think I missed that in all of the commotion. I want to revisit that when we get to the next day, when we can actually lynch either him or Pedro.

What accusations?

[NightArcher]

Sorry, I missed that. Accusations is not the correct word. I pointed out in a previous post that he didn't answer a question directed at him right before the end of the day. I'm on my phone at the moment, I can give a more concise response when I get home.

Also, Rezombad said he submitted the backup role. Or at least he confirmed my assertion that he had.

[Stardust]

@ Stardust: If Tordeck were still alive and had gotten a true statement, what would happen to him if he'd actually made a post other than a vote?

Modkill (worse than regular death).

[NightArcher]

Unvote

Vote: Red

We need to do something before the deadline

Agreed, but why that? In your opinion, what makes RedNihilist scummier than NightArcher? NightArcher already had 2 votes. Now two people have two votes.

Imopen2, you were posed a direct question right before the day ended. I want to hear an answer from you. I don't like the seemingly random flip flopping you did right at the end of the day.

This is what I meant, searching and quote splicing on my phone is absolute garbage.

It was this, in addition to him ignoring my accusations that he had an aloof nature during day 1, and that his posts barely contributed anything to the game during either day, at about the same level as Pedrobear.

[rezombad]

vote manders

She's not paying attention.

[rezombad]

I also think Pedro should suicide with his role to clear red. If he flips town we know red is town.

[RedNihilist]

If he was scum he would have tried to set me up, don't you think?

[NightArcher]

vote manders

She's not paying attention.

I agree with this. She has been almost vitriolic against X person both today and yesterday (Red today, me yesterday), but as soon as there's any sort of upset, she has thrown her hands up and checked out (with her acting confused for the better part of the day today, basically since she challenged Red)

There's a very solid chance that she is giving us the run around.

There's also two things about the way she acted that bothered me. Immediately following the night, she does a complete 180 about how she felt about me, because as I pointed out when I was focusing on Imopen2, right before day 1 ended she was still completely okay with trying to lynch me. The other thing was how quickly and strongly she was trying to build a case against Red today, so much that she was willing to stake her life on it, when he was already one of the easier wagons from the day before.

Vote Manders

[Pedrobear]

Vote Manders

[Stardust]

Votecount

RedNihilist (1): Manders
Manders (3): rezombad, NightArcher, PedroBear

Not voting: RedNihilist, imopen2

With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

[RedNihilist]

Vote Manders

[Stardust]

That's a lynch!

RedNihilist (1): Manders
Manders (4): rezombad, NightArcher, PedroBear, RedNihilist

Not voting: imopen2

The townsfolk have chosen, and you all drag the struggling Manders through the thin snow towards the lynching tree. She's strung up with ornaments and looks almost as pale and calm as this winter day after it's all over...

'Tis the season of giving, of course, so you all loot her corpse as she continues to swing like a festive piñata. Not a single thing found proves her malice however...

[spoiler="Manders' Role PM]Manders, you are a Gladiator, Town.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Once this game, during the Day, you may choose another player by writing Challenge [Player] in the game thread. For the remainder of the Day, only you and the chosen player will be votable.[/spoiler]

It is now Night 2. No posting! Please submit all actions in the next 72 hours.

[Stardust]

The next morning is frosty and bitterly cold. But a lynch is a lynch, so you all head outdoors to get back to business. Tragically, however, you find PedroBear's corpse frozen just outside his doorstep. Seems some scoundrel locked him out of his own house in the night. You shake your head and shrug it off as just another death, then continue down the lane. You don't make it far though before imopen2 and NightArcher come skipping up the other direction, singing a merry tune.

Deck the streets with ears and eyes,
Fa la la la la la la la la.
'Tis the season for the bad guys,
Fa la la la la la la la la.
Now the town's in our control,
Fa la la la la la la la la.
Expect a stocking filled with coal,
Fa la la la la la la la la.

Oh dear. Don't you just hate the holidays?

Secret Santa Mafia has ended in a Mafia victory. Congratulations to imopen2 and NightArcher!

[Stardust]

All Role PM's

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PedroBear, you are a Universal Backup, Town.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

You currently have no extra abilities. When the first Town-aligned player dies, you will inherit their ability.


RedNihilist, you are 1-shot Bulletproof, Town.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Once this game, if you would be killed, instead you’re not. This does not protect you from the lynch. You will be notified if your ability is used.


rezombad, you are a Tracker, Town.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Each Night you may track another player. You will be told who that player targeted with any abilities that Night.


Manders, you are a Gladiator, Town.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Once this game, during the Day, you may choose another player by writing Challenge [Player] in the game thread. For the remainder of the Day, only you and the chosen player will be votable.


Tordeck, you are Rudolph the Red-Nosed Lie Detector, Town.
You win when the town is under your control.

Once per Day, you may submit a section of in-game text (no longer than 10 words) to the mod.
- If the statement is false, the mod will say as much.
- The first time you submit a true statement to the mod, you cannot post for the remainder of the Day (but can still vote). The second time you submit a true statement to the mod, you will die. You will also die if you explain this limitation to anyone.



imopen2, you are a Dusty Mirror, Mafia.
You win when the town is under your control.

Each Night you may reflect another player. For the duration of the Night, any ability that would target that person targets you instead, and any ability that would target you targets the reflected player instead. Any player that targeted either of you with an ability is informed that their target was changed.

As mafia, you also have a factional nightkill that you (or your teammate) can use each Night in addition to any other abilities. Your teammate is NightArcher. Mafia Chat Link


NightArcher, you are a Doctor, Mafia.
You win when the town is under your control.

Each Night you may protect another player. That player will be immune to nightkills this Night.

As mafia, you also have a factional nightkill that you (or your teammate) can use each Night in addition to any other abilities. Your teammate is imopen2. Mafia Chat Link

Role Submissions

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PedroBear – submitted 1-shot Bulletproof: “Once this game, if you would be killed, instead you’re not. This does not protect you from the lynch. You will be notified if your ability is used.”

RedNihilist – submitted Tracker: “Each Night you may track another player. You will be told who that player targeted with any abilities that Night.”

NightArcher – submitted Dusty Mirror: “Each Night you may reflect another player. For the duration of the Night, any ability that would target that person targets you instead, and any ability that would target you targets the reflected player instead. Any player that targeted either of you with an ability is informed that their target was changed.”

Tordeck – submitted Gladiator: “Once this game, during the Day, you may choose another player by writing Challenge [Player] in the game thread. For the remainder of the Day, only you and the chosen player will be votable.”

Manders – submitted Doctor: “Each Night you may protect another player. That player will be immune to nightkills this Night.”

imopen2 – submitted Rudolph the Red-Nosed Lie Detector: “Once per Day, you may submit a section of in-game text (no longer than 10 words) to the mod. If the statement is false, the mod will say as much. If the statement is true, you cannot post for the remainder of the Day (but can still vote). The second time you submit a true statement to the mod, you will die. You will also die if you explain this power to anyone.”

rezombad – submitted Universal Backup: “You currently have no extra abilities. When the first Town-aligned player dies, you will inherit their ability.”

Mafia Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/KL6qvJ4tBDJ
Spec Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/8Grr4RX6k2HEi

Good game to all, and to all a good night.

[imopen2]

good game everyone. i liked this format of short days and nights. i think we lucked out that manders challenged red

[imopen2]

btw, i like my submitted role the best

[Stardust]

Led to some great comedy for me! As much as Manders' hates posting restrictions (and they should be used sparingly!) they do often lead to some hilarious times.

[RedNihilist]

GG