Planechase Mafia - Game Over

[( G_R )]

Well it took time between votes. And I believe timing counts even for private planeswalks, or perhaps Stardust can clarify that. But it doesn't really matter

We don't want Pedro at C-1 only to have scum planeswalk and hammer in the same post, stealing the game from us.

[Col. Khaddafi]

Get a second "confirmed" town to hold his vote untill C-2?

[RedNihilist]

Champion hamfactorial

I'll explain myself in a bit.

[RedNihilist]

I wanted to add a more verbose overview of what our game state is in this moment from my point of view, but it's being a busy day here in office so I'll make this short for now:
Theros seems to be a powerful plane, and whoever walks away from it should be lynched with great prejudice.

Question for Stardust (maybe this has been already answered, but I don't see it): moving away from Theros would keep the vote count as it is, or would it rather being reset as it would represent a votation for something else?
If the former is true, we still have ways to play around scum's shenanigans, but I really hope that we're in the latter case because it would suck to be exposed to random tricks that could give the advantage to the faction with a better timezone.

Now, the last point:
voting Pedrobear is probably the worst choice.
It's not like I don't trust his skills, but a random townie would have the benefit of choosing among a pool of six people (8 alive players - himself - Pedrobear), while he would have a pool of seven people from which to choose from.

[Pedrobear]

Red : it has already answered. We can be fucked by scum shenanigan consisting of : waiting for the last vote, planeswalk away, hammer the last vote and get a lynch instead of a Champion.

I also approve your point of view but we can also be completely wrecked if we champion a scum. Ham is 99% town but what if the 1% happens and chosen as Champion ?

[( G_R )]

I'm guessing you missed this:

@Stardust will a successful vote end the day?

Yes.

Also, these votes are the same as votes to lynch. The votecount was not reset when you walked here and will not be reset if you leave. Only the end result is different. Be warned.

The "be warned" part is especially telling.

You'd risk being wrong about Ham and giving him the power to win the game for scum? Even giving Pedro the choice doesn't sound so good anymore, we'd have to believe his reads are extremely fantastic.

Let's get out of here and do it the old fashioned way.

[( G_R )]

Huh, I guess the anti Sarnath countermeasures failed this time.

[Pedrobear]

At least we know that a plane like this exist and with some abilites we might be able to get in there if needed.

[Pedrobear]

People still able to planeswalk :

1. Mcdonalds
2. hamfactorial NOPE
3. RedNihilist
4. rezombad NOPE
5. rcwraspy
6. Pedrobear
7. Col. Khaddafi - silenced
8. ( G_R )

I'll keep mine. There also been a planeswalk privately submitted to Stardust (the one to Kamikaka)

[Pedrobear]

Scumbag, can you public planeswalk and see if Stardust can confirm you've been silenced ?

[RedNihilist]

Red : it has already answered. We can be fucked by scum shenanigan consisting of : waiting for the last vote, planeswalk away, hammer the last vote and get a lynch instead of a Champion.

I'm guessing you missed this:

@Stardust will a successful vote end the day?

Yes.

Also, these votes are the same as votes to lynch. The votecount was not reset when you walked here and will not be reset if you leave. Only the end result is different. Be warned.

The "be warned" part is especially telling.

Thanks, I missed that.

I also approve your point of view but we can also be completely wrecked if we champion a scum. Ham is 99% town but what if the 1% happens and chosen as Champion ?

You'd risk being wrong about Ham and giving him the power to win the game for scum? Even giving Pedro the choice doesn't sound so good anymore, we'd have to believe his reads are extremely fantastic.

Let's get out of here and do it the old fashioned way.

I don't see *any* reason to walk away from this plane.
Yeah, we could "mischampion" rather than mislynch, yet townies are more than scums otherwise the game would have been over already, so I don't really think you're getting things straight.
Chances of failing a lynch would be actually higher that failing to find a townie even if we just threw a die, so please avoid thinking we're trying to gamble or anything as we're not.

The strength of this plan is that there's no way for scum to derail the actual lynch, given that we can play around the planeswalking shenanigans.

[Col. Khaddafi]

Scumbag, can you public planeswalk and see if Stardust can confirm you've been silenced ?

sure, np

planeswalk

[Stardust]

planeswalk

Nothing happens.

[Stardust]

You are currently on Theros.

Votecount

Mcdonalds (1): Col. Khaddafi
hamfactorial (1): RedNihilist

Not voting: Mcdonalds, rezombad, rcwraspy, Pedrobear, ( G_R ), hamfactorial

With 8 alive, it's 5 to champion.

Deadline in six days, June 18th at 12:00 noon MST. Deadline clock.

[( G_R )]

People still able to planeswalk :

1. Mcdonalds
2. hamfactorial NOPE
3. RedNihilist
4. rezombad NOPE
5. rcwraspy
6. Pedrobear
7. Col. Khaddafi - silenced
8. ( G_R )

I'll keep mine. There also been a planeswalk privately submitted to Stardust (the one to Kamikaka)

We're in the hands of the scummiest? Fahck

[Pedrobear]

Scumbag, can you public planeswalk and see if Stardust can confirm you've been silenced ?

sure, np

planeswalk

Thanks

[RedNihilist]

People still able to planeswalk :

1. Mcdonalds
2. hamfactorial NOPE
3. RedNihilist
4. rezombad NOPE
5. rcwraspy
6. Pedrobear
7. Col. Khaddafi - silenced
8. ( G_R )

I'll keep mine. There also been a planeswalk privately submitted to Stardust (the one to Kamikaka)

We're in the hands of the scummiest? Fahck

You sure do love fear, huh?

[( G_R )]

The scum team is Rednihilist and McDonald. Scumbag might have been compleated or scum all along.

[Pedrobear]

Scumbag might be poisoned and fell in another side.

I'm more suspicious about Mcdonalds and rcw than Red.

[hamfactorial]

Are we still on Theros? Sorry, on phone at a golf tournament

[( G_R )]

[hamfactorial]

OK, I want to vote LMD but don't want him to be a champion.

[rcwraspy]

Want me to planeswalk then?

[hamfactorial]

Yes please

[rcwraspy]

planeswalk

[Stardust]

planeswalk

From ghosts to spirits to gods to ghosts, it's been a supernatural kind of day so far.



You are now on Innistrad. If a player dies on Innistrad, they will become a ghost. Ghosts may post at any time in either the game thread or factional quicktopics, but cannot vote or use any other abilities.

[( G_R )]

Vote McDonalds

[RedNihilist]

Unvote

[hamfactorial]

vote McDonalds

[RedNihilist]

This plan is useless right now, so Planeswalk.
Now, can we talk a bit on why you guys decided to move from Theros? This is starting to get funny.

[RedNihilist]

/looking at (G_R) in particular

[Stardust]

Planeswalk

You are now on Jund. The player who planeswalked here gains an ability that is usable during the Day as long as you remain on Jund: Devour [target] – "Choose another target player. This Night, that player will be killed."

[hamfactorial]

Alright Red, who are you killing?

[( G_R )]

/looking at (G_R) in particular

I wrote two posts explaining my reasons. I also wrote another calling you part of the scum team.

If you're town, I don't understand why you can't see how easily the champion plan could have blown on our faces.

[RedNihilist]

Are you kidding me? We could just have the scummiest players place their votes first and put ham at L-2, then have reliable players (Pedro + ham) hammer.
The plan was actually feasible and you know that, since you spent the last two pages asking for claims and fear mongering.

[RedNihilist]

Alright Red, who are you killing?

I'll think about that, I don't want to lose us the game on the spot.

[RedNihilist]

Quick T/S list:

Pedrobear
hamfactorial

Col. Khaddafi
rezombad

rcwraspy
( G_R )
Mcdonalds

I think thar if we hammer LMD, I'd devour raspy or G_R. If we move our lycnh elsewhere, I'll devour LMD.
I'm open to discussion, though.

[RedNihilist]

/looking at (G_R) in particular

I wrote two posts explaining my reasons. I also wrote another calling you part of the scum team.

If you're town, I don't understand why you can't see how easily the champion plan could have blown on our faces.

I posted more than once trying to get in your heads that your worst case scenario was actually manageable, what's the point in deny even basic discussion?
I know I'm stubborn but FFS I'm really tired of this whole charade of acting without thinking, and your nice "if you're town" premise really explains a lot on your mudslinging strategy.

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Devour LMD
Vote (G_R)

I'm open to discussion, we've got ~6 days to the deadline.

[( G_R )]

"If your town" means I still consider the possibility to be wrong about you, scummy player number two.

We lynch Maccas toDay. If scum got an extra kill what's the scenario? I think we lost this game yesterDay, but idk maybe there's a chance.

[Stardust]

Devour LMD

Resolved. Your target will die tonight.