Planechase Mafia - Game Over

[rezombad]

So, any nightreads you guys want to share? catch any scum?

As for the kill, I have the impression it was random, I would have expected rianalnn to have been targeted, not Manders. I need a re-read

Do go on.

[rezombad]

You didn't submit a target or you submitted and Stardust told you to go fish?

Witchhunt, answer this.

[rezombad]

Vote: Col. G

Asking for power roles to out themselves with results and speculating on why a townie was NK'd are both no-no's in my book

Sure, w/e.

Vote: Col. Khaddafi

Is this premeditate or what?

What about imopens thought process do you not agree with/understand?

[rezombad]

Vote scumbag
You're at L-2, come up with a T/S list please.

Why not just ask for a list?
You trying to bury the lede here doesn't sit right with me.

[rezombad]

Back from finals. I'll try to make a more in depth post over the weekend.


Summary from last night. Targeted Ria with my Bodyguard, Got role blocked. Can't use my bodyguard tonight either it seems, if i am reading stardust's pm correctly.

Please get clarification and report back

[rezombad]

Vote WitchHunt

50/50 sounds good already.

What

[rezombad]

This day was slow then took off like crazy. Mander's neighbor claim is still relevant, but Scumbag need's to claim first. I like how he ignores everyone's accusations and pushes for the Planeswalk plan, I suppose there's not much to defend with, but still.

This is a post I need to adress.

Indeed, I haven't given much input on the accusations brought against me since it just seemed everyone was just eager to jumb aboard the votetrain without even giving a token of explanation on why they have made this choice.

Like imopen2 makes a valid point then follows up with a vote, which is more than OK, but then everyone just posts lazy oneliners like, "hell why not?", "sure lets do this", and all of the sudden I'm at L-2, claim plz... Its just lazy, and if people are not putting any significant effort in building a case against me, I really don't know why I should even bother putting up a defense against unsubstanciated votes.

Sorry if I come around as being miffed, but this is like the votetrains against TubeHunter and Jamie during day 1, I guess for those the is the excuse it was day 1, but really, there is no excuse now that we are at Day 2 and there's much more to discuss and dissect.

So yeah, I'm not really ready to claim unless someone puts some effort in building a defent case against me, think a pbp analysis, it shouldn't event be that hard, I have mostly been lurking up to now.

What I see as a good idea, besides continuing planeswalking, is to come out with a T/S list. I am going to do a reread of the game over the week-end and I'll come up with mine. I suggest people do the same, there are really no downsides for doing this at this point.

Solid post.
I won't be voting for scumbag barring something crazy happening.

[rezombad]

Vote: scumbag

Ill blindly follow on this.

Trap queen.

[rezombad]

I'll be doing some more in depth stuff tonight. I have an idea of who I want to see lynched today, but I want to go through and make sure my guts are right.

[WitchHunt]

You didn't submit a target or you submitted and Stardust told you to go fish?

Witchhunt, answer this.

I didn't submit a target, it was already two days into the night when I went to double check.

[WitchHunt]

Hm. Looking back on it, Scumbag's right. We don't have a real reason to ask for his claim other than a wagon vote over a statement construed as rolefishing. My vote's going to stay off him, I'm going to reread just to make sure once I get back from work, but it doesn't feel right to me.

[RedNihilist]

Vote: Col. G

Asking for power roles to out themselves with results and speculating on why a townie was NK'd are both no-no's in my book

Sure, w/e.

Vote: Col. Khaddafi

Is this premeditate or what?

What about imopens thought process do you not agree with/understand?

I'm addressing the double vote.

[( G_R )]

Vote WitchHunt

50/50 sounds good already.

What

Never mind the comment. I was confusing him with TubeHunter on the "player who lands here gets confirmed town on a coin flip" plane.

The vote stands, I'm not buying the "oops I fucked up the ability" thing.

[WitchHunt]

That's fine, I'm not too worried about it.

Gentlemen, I have returned! I was Manders' neighbor.

Totally missed this, I apologize. Guess that's what happens when I don't read in zombie mode from work. So if true, Ham is basically confirmed town, Tubehunter as a bodyguard could be good for us as well if we can prove it. Rezombad is coming off as the most towny to me this game so far.

Kpaca has mixed feelings from me, but I could start seeing him as town with his attitude flipping around. We'll see though.

For Scumbag, I still agree about Manders being killed was just a random 1st night NK.

@Raspy, do you have a reason for believing otherwise? She didn't claim a power role or anything, even as a neighbor it's not something scum would be scared of and shoot to take down quickly imo.

@LMD, Did you actually have any real reason to vote Jamie other than him not claiming? I'm not sure I can fault him for the ninja hammer since there were literally minutes before the end of day 1, but I'm curious.

[hamfactorial]

Being Manders' neighbor doesn't make me confirmed town, but I agree that it's much more likely. If I was scum, I think it would be more useful to leave her alive and communicate with her in the QT to figure out her role before targeting her as the NK.

[( G_R )]

Unless your plan was saying that all along. Wine in front of me.

[hamfactorial]

Everyone here knows I'm the best scum player around.

[RedNihilist]

Seriously though, what would be the point of having Manders linked to a scum player?
Ham is confirmed town to me.

[Col. Khaddafi]

True, Bromance doesn't match having something like a scum killing a townie, ham is confirmed town for me too.

[Mcdonalds]

@witchhunt pretty much, I wasn't entirely sure about him but his lack of claim was what did it for me

[rcwraspy]

still on V:LA but people, please read the mafia wiki definition of neighbor. I don't understand how you can confirm Ham as town?!?

Ham, was Manders your only neighbor?

[hamfactorial]

Yes, just me and Manders. I think it was flavored around the Venser/Koth duel deck.

[WitchHunt]

still on V:LA but people, please read the mafia wiki definition of neighbor. I don't understand how you can confirm Ham as town?!?

Ham, was Manders your only neighbor?

After reading through the wiki, this is relevant. If there was only two in their "neighborhood" shouldn't that add support to them both being town?

[rcwraspy]

still on V:LA but people, please read the mafia wiki definition of neighbor. I don't understand how you can confirm Ham as town?!?

Ham, was Manders your only neighbor?

After reading through the wiki, this is relevant. If there was only two in their "neighborhood" shouldn't that add support to them both being town?

Crap, sorry for "thanking" that post. I meant to hit quote but it's a new skin and even though obvious I'm tired. It wasn't an intended thank but I won't take it back since that may be construed as an edit.

Anyway, yes, if there are only 2 then it's more likely Ham is town. But we didn't know that until I asked. I suppose the way I asked kind of gave Ham a huge warning, though, so oops.

[Stardust]

Votecount

Col. Khaddafi (4): imopen2, rianalnn, Mcdonalds, RedNihilist
WitchHunt (1): ( G_R )

Not voting: hamfactorial, rezombad, rcwraspy, Col. Khaddafi, WitchHunt, TubeHunter

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

[rezombad]

You guys need to stop modgaming.

[rezombad]

still on V:LA but people, please read the mafia wiki definition of neighbor. I don't understand how you can confirm Ham as town?!?

Ham, was Manders your only neighbor?

After reading through the wiki, this is relevant. If there was only two in their "neighborhood" shouldn't that add support to them both being town?

Crap, sorry for "thanking" that post. I meant to hit quote but it's a new skin and even though obvious I'm tired. It wasn't an intended thank but I won't take it back since that may be construed as an edit.

Anyway, yes, if there are only 2 then it's more likely Ham is town. But we didn't know that until I asked. I suppose the way I asked kind of gave Ham a huge warning, though, so oops.

Thanking posts is allowed as long as you are alive in-game

[rezombad]

Read the rules

[RedNihilist]

You guys need to stop modgaming.

Explain yourself.

[Stardust]

imopen2, TubeHunter and rianalnn have been prodded.

Tentative deadline set for one week from the time of this post. I will extend it if you guys are making good progress.

[WitchHunt]

Well, we're not lynching Scumbag, we've got at least one confirmed townie, with things slowing down how about we step back into the old plan a bit and Planeswalk to spice things up a bit?

[Col. Khaddafi]

Look guys, I have not forgotten that I have to come with a T/S list, and I hope people follow through. Sorry for being rather inactive but most of my forum time has been spent fixing this clusterfuck of an upgrade.

With this said Planeswalking is the way to go. First it makes for a fun game, second, as town we can glean some more info, think Serra's realm.

Plus, reading the OP, if we can get to Grixis, we might bring back a zombie Manders, no idea how this works, but it seems we have a limited capability to revive townies... So lets keep up with the momentum.

[Stardust]

QR_BBPOST Planeswalk

You walk back to Ravnica and are immediately surrounded by all sorts of strange creatures. Frogs with scales, bears with gills, fish with wings. No doubt about it. You're among the Simic.

You are now on Ravnica, at Zameck. While at Zameck, the player who hammers gains a permanent ability that can be used on all future Nights: Cytoshape [target] – "You lose all abilities previously gained with Cytoshape, then gain all nonfaction abilities of target player."

[Stardust]

Also, I've decided this game would be better with a smaller number of planes. Too late to change that too much at this point, but I've removed Muraganda and Segovia from the list to give you a better chance of revisting planes multiple times.

[RedNihilist]

Unvote
Planeswalk

[Stardust]

Planeswalk

Ah, the smell of eternal spring. Open meadows, lush forest and crisp, clean water. Faerie dust floating through the air on a gentle breeze. Pies sitting to cool, just waiting for a boggart to steal them. Here on Lorwyn, there is no night. Only sunshine, all the time.

You are now on Lorwyn. If the Day ends while on Lorwyn, Night will last for only 24 hours. This is a hard deadline, so even if I haven't reopened the Day, any actions or changes not received by that time will not be taken into account.

[Mcdonalds]

planeswalk

[Stardust]

planeswalk

From the bright skies of Lorwyn to the darkness of Ulgrotha it takes your eyes a moment to adjust before you realise where you are. Not again.

You are now on Ulgrotha. Players who die here will not have their role PM's revealed.

[hamfactorial]

Planeswalk

Get me outta here!

[Stardust]

Planeswalk

From darkness to darkness, you find yourself in the underbelly of the great city of Ravnica. Networks of tunnels expand out in all directions, used by all manner of theives, spies and informers to move undetected about the city. Looking around, not a single person is visible, but you can feel the eyes of many Dimir watching you all the same.

You are now on Ravnica, at Duskmantle. While at Duskmantle, votecounts will not include names, only totals, and will be provided once every 24 hours. Players may vote and unvote secretly via a PM to me. Any vote or unvote made via PM will be reversed when you leave Duskmantle.