Planechase Mafia - Game Over

[rezombad]

For some reason when I read it, manders part didn't enter my brain, so it was just you responding to kpaca by saying it wasn't you. Carry on.

[Manders]

"Shut the fuck up, dude. Obviously he's playing along because he sees no reason not to...AS HE'S ALREADY STATED."

Fuck you.
If I ask for clarification I'm trying to get explicit stances or statements. Its because I genuinely want to understand their position without trying to influence them.

No. You are asking fluff questions that require no clarification just so you can look like you're doing something. Your "questions" reek of scum playing along.

So shut the fuck up.

[rcwraspy]

planeswalk

Why?

unvote

i'm following Ria's plan.

Why?

I think the plan is flawed because we don't have good info but the plan is a way to get some info. So it's circular and the only thing to do is act. I don't see it harming anything yet and if it does then we can nix the plan for subsequent game days.

But more importantly because others have given it the OK so it seems like most players are in agreement. Hopefully that means it's what town wants.

So if most people weren't down with the plan, you wouldn't do it?

Correct. I didn't see the value but there seemed to be a consensus at that time.

[rezombad]

"Your "questions" reek of scum playing along. "

I don't understand this part

[TubeHunter]

Vote Jamie


To be honest, I think you are scum.

[rcwraspy]

unvote

vote TubeHunter

[rcwraspy]

So If I have this correct, we started at dominara, and then someone already planeswalked to where we are now (i.e.: Bolas's Realm)

Looking like contributing but not really adding anything. "So if I have this correct" is a nice little waffle-maker.

Im kinda with Imopen on this one. I do think we should hold off on the planeswalking until at least everyone has a chance to post once.

Imopen is also on my scum list, and this could be some a scum buddy slip. Also, waiting until everybody posts before planeswalking seems like fishing for role information. Contrast that with my not wanting to planeswalk because I just didn't see the value in it.

Yeah, the anyonomous plane was terrible, so leaving that is a given. Im just saying I want to hear from everyone before whizzing around to other planes

On the other hand, Double voting counts? How does everyone feel about that?

role fishing x2. Once re: planeswalking, and once re: double voting.

One question I would like to ask is why did Jamie walk away from Bolas's meditation realm so fast?

Was the effect of that plain worthy of leaving super early?

uhh... Bolas's meditation realm is super scummy... at least, it has larger upside for scum than it does for town.

So by hopping around, we chance ourself to a bad plane, but then we will play a relatively normal game for the rest of the day. Color me intrigued. I'll bite on this plan

If we go by we have:

WALKED
Jamie, wraspy, rin, imopen, LMD, Dechs, Zombad.

NOT
Me, Col, GR, Red, Ham, Witch.

I can volunteer myself for next plains walk if needed.

For suspecion, I can't say that i'm not suspisous of Ham. The way he is acting is scarly close to his past scum games. (imo) The fluff posts mostly, those one line throwaways that don't say anything, that is what makes me suspicious.

Vote: hamfactorial

This contradicts his earlier desire to wait until we had heard from everybody before planeswalking. By itself that isn't necessarily scummy, but he seems to go above and beyond in the attempt to appear town. "Color me intrigued" just ins't necessary from a town mindset. Then he summarizes, which makes him look like contributing but not actually doing so. Then throws out a fairly random vote on Ham.

I don't particularly care, I just think that votes without substance don't add anything to the game, so I would've liked to see some reasoning.

This isn't super scummy, but it could be him trying to figure out how to improve his town game.

Im going to unvote for right now, gotta think things over.

This is usually a scummy thing to say/do. Especially with no follow up later.

Am I going to have to show you guys why TubeHunter is scum? UGH!

That's not happening til the weekend at the earliest.

I mean, it wouldn't hurt your case to actually explain things lol.

Again trying to figure out how to get out from under Manders' suspicion.

Vote Jamie


To be honest, I think you are scum.

The vote itself is null, but "to be honest" is a scum-phrase.

[Stardust]

Votecount

Jamie (3): Col. Khaddafi, ( G_R ), TubeHunter
rcwraspy (3): rianalnn, rezombad, Mcdonalds
rianalnn (2): RedNihilist, WitchHunt
TubeHunter (2): Manders, rcwraspy
hamfactorial (1): Jamie

Not voting: hamfactorial, imopen2

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.


Tentative Deadline set for Tuesday April 28, 8:00 am MT. Deadline Clock.

[Stardust]

imopen2, Col. Khaddafi and WitchHunt have been prodded.

If rianalnn hasn't posted by Monday, I'll look for a replacement/modkill.

[Manders]

I'll prod him via text. Just HEY GO POST IN DA GAME. Promise.

[Manders]

"Your "questions" reek of scum playing along. "

I don't understand this part

They are weak and offer no insight.

[Manders]

And, yes, I mean I think you are scum, too.

Just one thing at a time.

[Manders]

rcwraspy are those all of his posts?

[rcwraspy]

rcwraspy are those all of his posts?

not all, but probably 90% of them.

[rcwraspy]

well, I shouldn't give a percentage without doing the math - just a significant majority of his posts.

[hamfactorial]

The "to be honest" tell has been null for me in past games. Some people just say it a lot, along with "I mean" which is endemic to the Magic community.

The rest of your case on him is interesting, though. I hadn't really noticed TH before.

My favorite scum tell is inactivity, but that's been historically bad for me.

[rcwraspy]

"inactivity" is my assumption as to why Manders asked if that was all his posts.

I got nailed on "to be honest" when I was playing scum once, so it's on my radar.

[hamfactorial]

I enjoy dicking around on D1 to see who votes me because of it. Town reasons and scum reasons for voting me are typically very distinct.

I'll go back through to see who voted me and illustrate the mindset I see in that vote.

[TubeHunter]

So If I have this correct, we started at dominara, and then someone already planeswalked to where we are now (i.e.: Bolas's Realm)

Looking like contributing but not really adding anything. "So if I have this correct" is a nice little waffle-maker.

Im kinda with Imopen on this one. I do think we should hold off on the planeswalking until at least everyone has a chance to post once.

Imopen is also on my scum list, and this could be some a scum buddy slip. Also, waiting until everybody posts before planeswalking seems like fishing for role information. Contrast that with my not wanting to planeswalk because I just didn't see the value in it.
As town, we didnt have enough (in my opinon) information to implicate anyone, much less whiz around to a different plain.

Yeah, the anyonomous plane was terrible, so leaving that is a given. Im just saying I want to hear from everyone before whizzing around to other planes

On the other hand, Double voting counts? How does everyone feel about that?

role fishing x2. Once re: planeswalking, and once re: double voting.
I'm not trying to antagonize you or anything, but fishing? What is the harm in asking public questions about mechanics that all memebers of the town have to share?

One question I would like to ask is why did Jamie walk away from Bolas's meditation realm so fast?

Was the effect of that plain worthy of leaving super early?

uhh... Bolas's meditation realm is super scummy... at least, it has larger upside for scum than it does for town.
I mean, does it? I don't know if that was set in stone so much that it was abosulte. I just wanted to know, especially since we had already left.

So by hopping around, we chance ourself to a bad plane, but then we will play a relatively normal game for the rest of the day. Color me intrigued. I'll bite on this plan

If we go by we have:

WALKED
Jamie, wraspy, rin, imopen, LMD, Dechs, Zombad.

NOT
Me, Col, GR, Red, Ham, Witch.

I can volunteer myself for next plains walk if needed.

For suspecion, I can't say that i'm not suspisous of Ham. The way he is acting is scarly close to his past scum games. (imo) The fluff posts mostly, those one line throwaways that don't say anything, that is what makes me suspicious.

Vote: hamfactorial

This contradicts his earlier desire to wait until we had heard from everybody before planeswalking. By itself that isn't necessarily scummy, but he seems to go above and beyond in the attempt to appear town. "Color me intrigued" just ins't necessary from a town mindset. Then he summarizes, which makes him look like contributing but not actually doing so. Then throws out a fairly random vote on Ham.
This was after Ria and several others already walked in a row. I even said that i was intruiged and wanted to go along with the Ria's plan.

I don't particularly care, I just think that votes without substance don't add anything to the game, so I would've liked to see some reasoning.

This isn't super scummy, but it could be him trying to figure out how to improve his town game.

Im going to unvote for right now, gotta think things over.

This is usually a scummy thing to say/do. Especially with no follow up later.
It's a scummy thing to unvote?

Am I going to have to show you guys why TubeHunter is scum? UGH!

That's not happening til the weekend at the earliest.

I mean, it wouldn't hurt your case to actually explain things lol.

Again trying to figure out how to get out from under Manders' suspicion.
Or, you know, Just wanting to hear an explanation.

Vote Jamie


To be honest, I think you are scum.

The vote itself is null, but "to be honest" is a scum-phrase.

[Mcdonalds]

The yellow is a tad unreadable, do you mind reposting that in a darker color

(On my phone most of the time, otherwise I'd just highlight it

[hamfactorial]

It's pretty obnoxious. It's readable if you have a highlight function, but against a white background it may as well be invisible.

Could Stardust make it red?

[Manders]

Or he could just learn to use the quote function.

I'll have much to say over this weekend, but probably not tonight.

[TubeHunter]

So If I have this correct, we started at dominara, and then someone already planeswalked to where we are now (i.e.: Bolas's Realm)

Looking like contributing but not really adding anything. "So if I have this correct" is a nice little waffle-maker.

Im kinda with Imopen on this one. I do think we should hold off on the planeswalking until at least everyone has a chance to post once.

Imopen is also on my scum list, and this could be some a scum buddy slip. Also, waiting until everybody posts before planeswalking seems like fishing for role information. Contrast that with my not wanting to planeswalk because I just didn't see the value in it.
]As town, we didnt have enough (in my opinon) information to implicate anyone, much less whiz around to a different plain.

Yeah, the anyonomous plane was terrible, so leaving that is a given. Im just saying I want to hear from everyone before whizzing around to other planes

On the other hand, Double voting counts? How does everyone feel about that?

role fishing x2. Once re: planeswalking, and once re: double voting.
not trying to antagonize you or anything, but fishing? What is the harm in asking public questions about mechanics that all memebers of the town have to share?

One question I would like to ask is why did Jamie walk away from Bolas's meditation realm so fast?

Was the effect of that plain worthy of leaving super early?

uhh... Bolas's meditation realm is super scummy... at least, it has larger upside for scum than it does for town.
]I mean, does it? I don't know if that was set in stone so much that it was abosulte. I just wanted to know, especially since we had already left.

So by hopping around, we chance ourself to a bad plane, but then we will play a relatively normal game for the rest of the day. Color me intrigued. I'll bite on this plan

If we go by we have:

WALKED
Jamie, wraspy, rin, imopen, LMD, Dechs, Zombad.

NOT
Me, Col, GR, Red, Ham, Witch.

I can volunteer myself for next plains walk if needed.

For suspecion, I can't say that i'm not suspisous of Ham. The way he is acting is scarly close to his past scum games. (imo) The fluff posts mostly, those one line throwaways that don't say anything, that is what makes me suspicious.

Vote: hamfactorial

This contradicts his earlier desire to wait until we had heard from everybody before planeswalking. By itself that isn't necessarily scummy, but he seems to go above and beyond in the attempt to appear town. "Color me intrigued" just ins't necessary from a town mindset. Then he summarizes, which makes him look like contributing but not actually doing so. Then throws out a fairly random vote on Ham.
[]This was after Ria and several others already walked in a row. I even said that i was intruiged and wanted to go along with the Ria's plan.

I don't particularly care, I just think that votes without substance don't add anything to the game, so I would've liked to see some reasoning.

This isn't super scummy, but it could be him trying to figure out how to improve his town game.

Im going to unvote for right now, gotta think things over.

This is usually a scummy thing to say/do. Especially with no follow up later.
]It's a scummy thing to unvote?

Am I going to have to show you guys why TubeHunter is scum? UGH!

That's not happening til the weekend at the earliest.

I mean, it wouldn't hurt your case to actually explain things lol.

Again trying to figure out how to get out from under Manders' suspicion.
[]Or, you know, Just wanting to hear an explanation.

Vote Jamie


To be honest, I think you are scum.

The vote itself is null, but "to be honest" is a scum-phrase.

Repost with red text, sorry, wasn't even thinking

[Col. Khaddafi]

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff.

[WitchHunt]

In regards to the role fishing, finding out that information is more beneficial to scum early on than town imo.

I understand the curiosity between what the Mafia members mmpf bit could actually be, but I personally believe that plane should just be avoided. I'd just rather not risk it.

[Manders]

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff.

Town/scum list please.

Input coming tomorrow.

[RedNihilist]

Raspy's case is good, but I'm still not sold on that.
That TBH thing is not something I'd rely upon, and the "Bolas meditation realm is protown" thing was the very reason thatmade me vote for kpaca, but nobody seemed to care at the time.
Not tha

[rcwraspy]

"to be honest" implies a sub-conscious acknowledgement of prior dishonesty. That's why it's a small scum tell in my book. But that wasn't the crux of the PBPA - just one thing of many.

[Col. Khaddafi]

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff.

Town/scum list please.

Input coming tomorrow.

That's easy

Town: Ria - He came up with a plan to help town get info, and I don't believe that Bolas stuff was any gambit.

Everyone else: Null

[( G_R )]

Alright let's get things moving, there's a deadline upon us.

Unvote
Vote TubeHunter

Because reasons.

[Mcdonalds]

@ham/imopen, who do you think is scum?

[Stardust]

Searching for a replacement for rianalnn. imopen2 told me he'd get a post up today.

Deadline extended 48 hours in order to get responses back about the replacement. If I haven't replaced rianalnn by deadline, he will be modkilled. If I find a replacement, the deadline will be extended again.

[Stardust]

Pedrobear replaces rianalnn. Thanks for stepping up and welcome to the game!

Deadline has been extended to Friday May 1, 9:00 am MT (same time as this post) to give Pedrobear a chance to catch up. Deadline Clock.

[RedNihilist]

Unvote

[Stardust]

Votecount

Jamie (2): Col. Khaddafi, TubeHunter
rcwraspy (2): rezombad, Mcdonalds
rianalnn (1): WitchHunt
TubeHunter (3): Manders, rcwraspy, ( G_R )
hamfactorial (1): Jamie

Not voting: hamfactorial, imopen2, Pedrobear, RedNihilist

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

[Manders]

hey fellow walkers, I'm back, but I see not much has been happening, typical day 1 stuff.

Town/scum list please.

Input coming tomorrow.

That's easy

Town: Ria - He came up with a plan to help town get info, and I don't believe that Bolas stuff was any gambit.

Everyone else: Null

You think that plan was enough to convince you he's Town?

I mean, irrelevant now since replaced, but still...

[Manders]

Raspy's case is good, but I'm still not sold on that.
That TBH thing is not something I'd rely upon, and the "Bolas meditation realm is protown" thing was the very reason thatmade me vote for kpaca, but nobody seemed to care at the time.
Not tha

Finish your thought...

[Manders]

Sorry I was busy/sick (both are correct) this weekend.

[hamfactorial]

@ham/imopen, who do you think is scum?

I don't know. Both TH and Jamie voted me for weak reasons, but I can't assign strong scum motivation to them on D1. There's so little to work with.

Between the two, Jamie seems more scummy. It's a very weak read, though.

I think Ria was town.

The rest of the field is null.

[rianalnn]

My bad dawgs. Decided to work at a job last week. Did we finish the plan?