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For the old men out there, does anybody want to discuss this?
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/30 ... Aggro.html
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[deck=DJDeluxe 2nd Place at Magic Online Daily Event on 4/6/2015]
Creature 19
4 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Spells 16
4 Hordeling Outburst
1 Outpost Siege
3 Roast
4 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land 25
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Evolving Wilds
8 Mountain
5 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
Sideboard 15
2 Wild Slash
2 Valorous Stance
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Roast
3 Erase
2 Outpost Siege
3 Mastery of the Unseen
[/deck]
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/30 ... Aggro.html
For those too lazy to click:
[deck=DJDeluxe 2nd Place at Magic Online Daily Event on 4/6/2015]
Creature 19
4 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Spells 16
4 Hordeling Outburst
1 Outpost Siege
3 Roast
4 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land 25
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Evolving Wilds
8 Mountain
5 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
Sideboard 15
2 Wild Slash
2 Valorous Stance
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Roast
3 Erase
2 Outpost Siege
3 Mastery of the Unseen
[/deck]
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I'm considering RW, Mardu, or Jeskai for Gameday. This list caught my eye. I'm looking at Ashcloud Phoenix and Flamewake Phoenix in particular. I'm expecting a ton of GR Dragons and mono red with a few UBx control and Abzan aggro.
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There was a post on /r/spikes about it as well.For the old men out there, does anybody want to discuss this?
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/30 ... Aggro.html
For those too lazy to click:
[deck=DJDeluxe 2nd Place at Magic Online Daily Event on 4/6/2015]
Creature 19
4 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Spells 16
4 Hordeling Outburst
1 Outpost Siege
3 Roast
4 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land 25
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Evolving Wilds
8 Mountain
5 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
Sideboard 15
2 Wild Slash
2 Valorous Stance
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Roast
3 Erase
2 Outpost Siege
3 Mastery of the Unseen
[/deck]
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I would straight up run the list but I won't be able to get the Thunderbreaks in time.
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4 seeker of the way
4 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
4 monastery mentor
4 wild slash
3 lightning strike
2 roast
2 valorous stance
4 hordeling outburst
4 stoke the flames
2 chandra, pyromaster
4 temple of triumph
4 battlefield forge
2 wind-scarred crag
4 plains
9 mountain
Considering this.
4 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
4 monastery mentor
4 wild slash
3 lightning strike
2 roast
2 valorous stance
4 hordeling outburst
4 stoke the flames
2 chandra, pyromaster
4 temple of triumph
4 battlefield forge
2 wind-scarred crag
4 plains
9 mountain
Considering this.
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Changed my mind on Mentor.
4 seeker of the way
3 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
2 brimaz, king of oreskos
3 ashcloud phoenix
4 wild slash
3 lightning strike
2 roast
2 valorous stance
4 hordeling outburst
4 stoke the flames
2 chandra, pyromaster
4 battlefield forge
4 temple of triumph
2 wind-scarred crag
9 mountain
4 plains
2 erase
2 anger of the gods
2 roast
2 surge of righteousness
1 valorous stance
4 outpost siege
1 glare of heresy
1 ashcloud phoenix
Surge of Righteousness seems like nice tech.
4 seeker of the way
3 soulfire grand master
4 goblin rabblemaster
2 brimaz, king of oreskos
3 ashcloud phoenix
4 wild slash
3 lightning strike
2 roast
2 valorous stance
4 hordeling outburst
4 stoke the flames
2 chandra, pyromaster
4 battlefield forge
4 temple of triumph
2 wind-scarred crag
9 mountain
4 plains
2 erase
2 anger of the gods
2 roast
2 surge of righteousness
1 valorous stance
4 outpost siege
1 glare of heresy
1 ashcloud phoenix
Surge of Righteousness seems like nice tech.
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[deck]
Creature 22
3 Seeker of the Way
3 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
Spells 14
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
4 Wild Slash
4 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land 24
1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
1 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
5 Plains
9 Mountain
Sideboard 15
2 Roast
2 Valorous Stance
2 Outpost Siege
2 Mastery of the Unseen
2 Erase
2 Arc Lightning
2 Hushwing Gryff
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
[/deck]
Creature 22
3 Seeker of the Way
3 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
Spells 14
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
4 Wild Slash
4 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land 24
1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
1 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
5 Plains
9 Mountain
Sideboard 15
2 Roast
2 Valorous Stance
2 Outpost Siege
2 Mastery of the Unseen
2 Erase
2 Arc Lightning
2 Hushwing Gryff
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
[/deck]
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Cut a Plains and a Mountain, add a Crag and a Haven?
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6 2-drops might be a good solution to keep RDW. I had almost the same idea after my last tournament, only 4 is not enough to keep the ground safe.
Still not decided on which pack (dragons or removal/phoenix) to play. But yeah Dragons gives also acces to Haven which is nice.
One more point, I wouldn't play Valorous Stance MD. It has not a good synergy with SGM.
Still not decided on which pack (dragons or removal/phoenix) to play. But yeah Dragons gives also acces to Haven which is nice.
One more point, I wouldn't play Valorous Stance MD. It has not a good synergy with SGM.
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Valorous Stance is necessary to deal with big fliers while being a flex spell for every matchup. Thunderbreak Regent is running rampant, especially in my meta where probably 40% of the field is running it.
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I can see moving one Stance to the board for the fourth Ashcloud since it on can deal with bigger fliers and can also trade with Stormbreath.
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There are plans, and then there are plans.
[deck]
Creature:
4 Seeker of the Way
2 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Thunderbreak Regent
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
3 Stormbreath Dragon
Spells:
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Mastery of the Unseen
4 Wild Slash
2 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land:
1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
1 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
5 Plains
9 Mountain
Sideboard:
3 Roast
1 Valorous Stance
2 Mastery of the Unseen
2 Seismic Rupture
3 Surge of Righteousness
2 Hammer of Purphoros
1 Ashcloud Phoenix
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
[/deck]
[deck]
Creature:
4 Seeker of the Way
2 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Thunderbreak Regent
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
3 Stormbreath Dragon
Spells:
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Mastery of the Unseen
4 Wild Slash
2 Draconic Roar
4 Stoke the Flames
Land:
1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
1 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
5 Plains
9 Mountain
Sideboard:
3 Roast
1 Valorous Stance
2 Mastery of the Unseen
2 Seismic Rupture
3 Surge of Righteousness
2 Hammer of Purphoros
1 Ashcloud Phoenix
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
[/deck]
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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Beatdown is hard, though.
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Against Red, yo utake out regent, stormbreath, mastery, and 1 stoke for 3 surge, 2 rupture, 3 Roast, 1 phoenix, and 1 sakrhan.
Against Abzan control, you take out 4 slash, 2 roar, and 4 seeker for 1 stance, 2 mastery, 3 surge, 2 hammer, 1 ashcloud, and 1 sakrhan.
Against abzan agro, you have options for what you take out, but you bring in roast, surge, and sarkhan for sure.
Against control, take out 4 slash, 2 roar, bring in 2 mastery, 2 hammer, 1 ashcloud, 1 sarkahn.
Against green, you want roast, stance, and sarkhan. This is the matchup where you really miss chain, but sacrifices and such. Soulfire and mastery suck, roar may or may not be good, same with outburst. Rupture could be good or aweful as well.
Against Abzan control, you take out 4 slash, 2 roar, and 4 seeker for 1 stance, 2 mastery, 3 surge, 2 hammer, 1 ashcloud, and 1 sakrhan.
Against abzan agro, you have options for what you take out, but you bring in roast, surge, and sarkhan for sure.
Against control, take out 4 slash, 2 roar, bring in 2 mastery, 2 hammer, 1 ashcloud, 1 sarkahn.
Against green, you want roast, stance, and sarkhan. This is the matchup where you really miss chain, but sacrifices and such. Soulfire and mastery suck, roar may or may not be good, same with outburst. Rupture could be good or aweful as well.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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Beatdown is hard, though.
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Oh, I also just copied your manabase Khaos, but if you want more game against control, add a haven in place of something. It's great against them.
It's also possible for you to play a second stance over a second hammer since it's good against control and abzan where hammers good while also being good against green decks.
It's especially good against control since part of your plan is haven+dragon which silumgar shuts down and stance is an answer to dragonlord shenanigans.
It's also possible for you to play a second stance over a second hammer since it's good against control and abzan where hammers good while also being good against green decks.
It's especially good against control since part of your plan is haven+dragon which silumgar shuts down and stance is an answer to dragonlord shenanigans.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
Patrick chapin
Beatdown is hard, though.
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I'm gonna call the deck RW Dragons.
Yeah, the mana base looks great on paper. Can't wait to try it out:
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
4 Plains
8 Mountain
Yeah, the mana base looks great on paper. Can't wait to try it out:
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge
4 Plains
8 Mountain
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I've been so spoiled with Ascendancy and Outpost Siege that I absolutely dread playing a deck without them in the 60. I just want to be able to play my broken cards again.
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R/W Aggro
It seems there are a lot less dromokas commands around these days. I think its time to see this deck make a comeback in some shape or form.
I'm testing this early build at the moment.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-08-15-eri-rw-aggro/
I'm testing this early build at the moment.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-08-15-eri-rw-aggro/
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