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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:52 am

I'm starting to think that LP is just calling random opponents he's faced names of pro players.

Like, just last week, my round 1 opponent at FNM, Patrick Sullivan, said he liked my Avon Mountains. Later in Round 2, Patrick Chapin said the same thing!!
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Postby windstrider » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:56 am

We have a guy at our store that gets salty and leaves after taking his first loss at FNMS and such and I feel I've gotten a better understanding of tilt because of him.

People who tilt off like that feel that they deserve...something. Doesn't really matter what it is. Fair and balanced games. Equal distribution of lands and spells. that they can top deck but they're oppoennts can't. Whatever. All that. Specifics don't matter.

The point is that they seek something that they aren't entitled to. That and I think some people just have a misinformed idea of what probability actually is. I mean, you should here some of the logic people use for justifying and mulling certain hands. Weather they're right or wrong, the logic is usually just inane.
Am I off in guessing that guy runs high-powered decks? He's probably expecting to have the cards win for him. Tell him to play a budget deck, one that he knows won't win by jamming powerful cards. It's not enough to have good cards in a deck. You also need to know how to pay those cards to best effect. A budget build will force him to evaluate his lines of play. Sure, it makes winning more difficult, but even a well-built budget deck can pull off surprising wins. It's a joy in and of itself to take down a tier 1 $400 deck with a $20 budget build. :)
Like i said numerous times, expectations lead to disappointment. Which in turn leads to tilt.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:00 am

@Strider: He usually plays janky ass BW warriors.

@Khaos: Lots of high profile players on the west coast.

There where also something like 1/3d of the worlds Platinum pros at the WMCQ in Oakland last fall. They all scrubed out playing UW control except Josh Utter-Layton. He top cashed playing RW burn.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:03 am

Fear lead to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to...SUFFERING.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 am

I've been contemplating writing something called "The Zen of Magic" but it'd probably go over some people's heads.
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Postby windstrider » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:07 am

@Strider: He usually plays janky ass BW warriors.

@Khaos: Lots of high profile players on the west coast.

There where also something like 1/3d of the worlds Platinum pros at the WMCQ in Oakland last fall. They all scrubed out playing UW control except Josh Utter-Layton. He top cashed playing RW burn.
Well then if he's already playing janky builds, he should be expecting to not do well. Sounds like he doesn't have a well-built deck. Probably something he built himself (or saw on Sally), so there's an element of pride involved. Most people are terrible at deck construction but won't admit to it.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:08 am

"The Zem of magic, the lapgate story"
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:10 am

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Postby hamfactorial » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:19 am

Zem and the Art of Elemental Maintenance

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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:28 am

How to manifest your elemental.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:32 am

'The 5th Whisperwood Elemental"
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Jamie » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:40 am

Zem did your family really call you to let you know they were disappointed in you?
that's pretty shitty

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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:40 am

@Strider: He usually plays janky ass BW warriors.

@Khaos: Lots of high profile players on the west coast.

There where also something like 1/3d of the worlds Platinum pros at the WMCQ in Oakland last fall. They all scrubed out playing UW control except Josh Utter-Layton. He top cashed playing RW burn.
That's two in two posts.
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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:41 am

For the record, I quite enjoy your name-dropping, LP.
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Postby Jamie » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:43 am

So there I was at the 3-0 table at some chicago 5k when for round 4 sitting diagonally from me was WORLD CLASS PLAYER ADRIAN SULLIVAN. He played really intensely and all of his permanents were upside down. Later, I saw WORLD CLASS PLAYER ADRIAN SULLIVAN talking with WORLD CLASS PLAYER JEFF HOOGLAND very casual like. It made me felt like I had made it.

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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:43 am

Also, that ham quote from last page is totally sig material
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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:43 am

My friend LP has a big dick, honestly I'm surprised you haven't heard of him yet. Best dick you've never seen on the west coast.
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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:46 am

So there I was at the 3-0 table at some chicago 5k when for round 4 sitting diagonally from me was WORLD CLASS PLAYER ADRIAN SULLIVAN. He played really intensely and all of his permanents were upside down. Later, I saw WORLD CLASS PLAYER ADRIAN SULLIVAN talking with WORLD CLASS PLAYER JEFF HOOGLAND very casual like. It made me felt like I had made it.
But then, I realized that the only difference between us is that, tomorrow, I'd have to go to my job at Subway while they'd be traveling to another glamorous 5k to grind Planeswalker points
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:48 am

Just for you Jack: me getting much better at limited is predominantly the result of a conversation with Josh McClain, Nate Holliday, and Sam Pardee during a team draft they had against friends of mine. During said draft, me and McClain started talking about what it takes to be good at Constructed and who the best constructed players where. Pardee mostly named his teammates and Jacob Wilson while I went with Mahara and Efro.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:53 am

I used to name drop a lot but lsv told me he hates it
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:58 am

This aussie podcast is great.
Glad you liked it!
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:00 am

Zem did your family really call you to let you know they were disappointed in you?
that's pretty shitty
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Postby Jamie » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:19 am

Holy shit that's unbelievable.

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Postby Nuwen » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:21 am

What a bucket of cunts. You don't kick a dog to reinforce that it shouldn't shit in the living room.
So high, so low, so many things to know.

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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:21 am

Not really. But then again, I've been privy to some stories.

It does fucking suck though.
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Postby Nuwen » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:21 am

Not that you shit in the living room or are a dog.

I'm Monday-drunk, you know what I mean.
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:22 am

My post was in response to Jamie's.
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:22 am


I'm Monday-drunk, you know what I mean.
At last, we can share everything!
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:22 am

I've had a few beers tonight after work. :glee:
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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:38 am

This aussie podcast is great.
Glad you liked it!
It's not that easy to listen to (definitely much less lighthearted than the guy on before you), but it was very enlightening. Thanks for sharing it.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:57 am

Not that you shit in the living room or are a dog.

I'm Monday-drunk, you know what I mean.
Opinions vary.
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Postby TubeHunter » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:09 am

So EDH removed the ability to tuck. Aint that some goofy shit.

Anyone who plays edh have some opinions?

I don't like it personally, but I'll just have to live with it like every other change they hammer in.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:10 am

Retweeted Matt Sperling (@mtg_law_etc):

"If you don't like the tuck rule, just House Rule around it". My house rule is 60 card decks no commanders 4x per card, standard legal only.
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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:10 am

Fear lead to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to...SUFFERING.
Something something dark side.
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Postby TubeHunter » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:14 am

Retweeted Matt Sperling (@mtg_law_etc):

"If you don't like the tuck rule, just House Rule around it". My house rule is 60 card decks no commanders 4x per card, standard legal only.

Why does Matt Sperling always sound like he is trying to be as edgy as possible with everything he says?
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Postby Self Medicated » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:23 am

Monday drunk huh? Now I know what to call what I've been doing every night. :rofl:
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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:24 am

So EDH removed the ability to tuck. Aint that some goofy shit.

Anyone who plays edh have some opinions?

I don't like it personally, but I'll just have to live with it like every other change they hammer in.
I think it's fine. The rationale they gave for doing it seems off, but it was never fun to have a commander tucked. The better the effect is, the worse it hurts. And honestly, general-reliant strategies are still hindered by the re-casting tax.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:27 am

Drunk Mondays, big dicks, tucking, shitting dogs, and talks about the limited format.

Yup, this is why I love this place.
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Postby TubeHunter » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:29 am

It's also not fun to get shit on by zur/derevi/prosh/maelstrom wanderer either. But eh, if they have to make things harder by having to ban generals, then so be it, no skin off my back there.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:32 am

Luck is just probability made personal.
I only take it personally when things that are highly statistically unlikely happen and they punish me in spite of correct plays :P Just the same, I'm starting a new hobby or two and backing off the magic. Might even speak to females. I think that if it isn't my only pastime I might care less / have less reason to tilt. Other hobbies will be non-competitive and have no luck component for the sake of my own sanity.


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